Laxpunk2006 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Is it the first round tender, or the original round tender? I know in theory they both equal a first rounder, but can we except less in a trade for 'Los than a first if its the original tender, as we could if it was the actual first round tender? Am I making sense? Who knows! We tendered him at the original round tender. Since he was a first round pick compensation is a first round pick but the dollar amount is different. In either case the Redskins can still trade him for any amount another team is willing to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Is it the first round tender, or the original round tender? I know in theory they both equal a first rounder, but can we except less in a trade for 'Los than a first if its the original tender, as we could if it was the actual first round tender? Am I making sense? Who knows! You can't give a player who was drafted in the first round the original round tender. You have to give him the first round tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hope we keep him, long as we don't break the bank. He can cover opponents #1, and tackles well. Even if he never develops the hands for INTs, he's a good starter for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Good. C-los is a solid corner, no matter what some of you want to believe. not having to worry about replacing him makes our lives a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Is it the first round tender, or the original round tender? I know in theory they both equal a first rounder, but can we except less in a trade for 'Los than a first if its the original tender, as we could if it was the actual first round tender? Am I making sense? Who knows! Fortunately for Skins, LOS was drafted in the first so they could offer the lowest tender amount and the round in which he was drafted. Otherwise, his tender amount would have been higher to get to that 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hope we keep him, long as we don't break the bank.He can cover opponents #1, and tackles well. Even if he never develops the hands for INTs, he's a good starter for us. Wrong. If a QB isnt scared of getting picked off he will continue to throw your way. He cant cover perfectly on every play. Fear of big INT is a CB's biggest weapon against a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I guess that means that the Auburn boys aren't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Wrong. If a QB isnt scared of getting picked off he will continue to throw your way. He cant cover perfectly on every play. Fear of big INT is a CB's biggest weapon against a QB. Just because he doesn't make picks doesn't mean he's not a solid starter. He is what he is at this point. He still gets deflections, even if they are just dropped picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I'm sure he'll turn on the water faucets and cry about that! :ols: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 You can only tender a current player. If people are too dumb to figure it out, then there is nothing I can do for them.:mad: Dumb?If you want to throw around names and mad faces be my guest. It was a suggestion not a command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I guess that means that the Auburn boys aren't going anywhere. I'd disagree with that. It means that now that they have been tendered, they can be traded for whatever our FO wants to accept. If they aren't, they'll be back, hopefully utilized better by a coaching staff that knows what the **** its doing. Either way, its better than last season in some way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCinOz Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Actually if Rogers was tendered at the original round level (level 2) then we will get a second round pick for him if a team signs him to an offer sheet and we don't match. The reason? Upgraded tenders. Doughty, Golston and Heyer got upgraded tenders (higher than their original round) which means to keep players drafted in round 1 & 2 at their original level of compensation in RFA, teams must tender them at the higher levels. If they don't, they lose one draft round in compensation. Campbell was fine because he got the first round tender (level 4). ......and yes everything can be negotiated in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Just because he doesn't make picks doesn't mean he's not a solid starter. He is what he is at this point. He still gets deflections, even if they are just dropped picks. I agree with you that he's solid, and that when the stars align and he plays lights-out, he's good for shutting down top revievers. The issue with that is, he doesn't always play lights-out. Which means that balls get through, even if his coverage is tight. And because he's not a threat to catch ANYTHING, QB's will be willing to throw that ball up there anyways, and against an elite WR, you'd rather the QB be too afraid to throw it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Wrong. If a QB isnt scared of getting picked off he will continue to throw your way. He cant cover perfectly on every play. Fear of big INT is a CB's biggest weapon against a QB. Wrong. A quarterback throws to make a completion, not an, "Eh, what the hell, I'll give it a shot!" heave. Rogers + press = shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I guess LOS and Rocky can have a pity party this weekend.. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/carlos-rogers-isnt-happy-with.html#comments "I hate it, man," Rogers said tonight in a phone interview. "That's all I'm going to say. I really don't want to say too much right now. But I don't like it.""They know they got me for cheap" because of the restriction, Rogers said. "Of course, they're going to use it. They're going to use what they got to keep me here cheap. If you want me there, you could show me. Tendering me is not showing me. "That's just making it harder for a team to not come get me. I mean, I think they're going to use all their money on the unrestricted guys. That's what I'm hearing. That's just, you know ... there's nothing I can do about it anyway." Rogers also is frustrated about the likelihood of returning to the Redskins because of the dysfunctional nature of the franchise during his time there, he said. "I've seen guys come and go who have been doing it for our team," Rogers said. "And our chemistry just hasn't been there because we just let them guys go that been the core of our team. "I guess there's nothing I can do about it. I guess we just have to show up whatever the day is for us to show up or whatever it is. But I don't like it, personally. And it's not just me. It's a whole bunch of guys who feel that way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashsra Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Doesn't matter that Carlos and the others don't like it. It would be stupid to let former first round picks walk away for nothing. Not a great deal for the players, but smart by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Actually if Rogers was tendered at the original round level (level 2) then we will get a second round pick for him if a team signs him to an offer sheet and we don't match.The reason? Upgraded tenders. Doughty, Golston and Heyer got upgraded tenders (higher than their original round) which means to keep players drafted in round 1 & 2 at their original level of compensation in RFA, teams must tender them at the higher levels. If they don't, they lose one draft round in compensation. Campbell was fine because he got the first round tender (level 4). ......and yes everything can be negotiated in a trade. Interesting, I thought that the Redskins had to give him the first round tender, but you sound like you know what you're talking about. So we get a second round pick if someone else signs Rogers. I would have rather given him the first round tender (it's Snyder's money, not ours) because I feel like he's a valuable CB even if he can't catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Wrong.A quarterback throws to make a completion, not an, "Eh, what the hell, I'll give it a shot!" heave. Rogers + press = shut down. Rogers+ press= burnt on double moves for tds and no pro bowls in 5 yrs! Send him packing to the highest bidder bring in d. robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Rogers+ press= burnt on double moves for tds and no pro bowls in 5 yrs!Send him packing to the highest bidder bring in d. robinson. Carlos is twice the cornerback that Robinson is. We all know that Carlos can't catch which is why he hasn't made the probowl. But he is a shutdown cornerback in the truest sense. Robinson hasn't had a good season since his rookie year. If he were any good at all, Houston would have tendered him like we did Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Carlos is such a whiner. We should trade him to the Bengals and let him see what real team chaos looks like each day during the season. Can't wait till he gives up his first touchdown and then provides his excuse to the press. Listening to LOS whine in the Washington Post today too gets old. The coach and the GM has to change the culture of this team and bring in some new guys with better attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvuskins15 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Carlos is twice the cornerback that Robinson is. We all know that Carlos can't catch which is why he hasn't made the probowl. But he is a shutdown cornerback in the truest sense. Robinson hasn't had a good season since his rookie year. If he were any good at all, Houston would have tendered him like we did Rogers. isnt robinson an ufa? and they did give them the franchise tag last offseason...ive never watched him play but he probably is not worse that rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 isnt robinson an ufa? and they did give them the franchise tag last offseason...ive never watched him play but he probably is not worse that rogers They did give him a franchise tag, you're right. Then he held out and ended up playing terribly, but you're right, I don't think they could have tendered him like I said originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvuskins15 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 They did give him a franchise tag, you're right. Then he held out and ended up playing terribly, but you're right, I don't think they could have tendered him like I said originally. i dont know much about him besides that he can catch better than carlos. i wouldnt mind having him along side rogers and hall but thats not likely :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Carlos is twice the cornerback that Robinson is. We all know that Carlos can't catch which is why he hasn't made the probowl. But he is a shutdown cornerback in the truest sense. Robinson hasn't had a good season since his rookie year. If he were any good at all, Houston would have tendered him like we did Rogers. Robinson: Tackles 393 Sacks 4.0 Interceptions 13 LOS: Tackles 240 Sacks 0.0 Interceptions 6 Better stats better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 TacklesInterceptionsYearTeamGCombTotalAstSckSFTYPDefIntTDsYdsAvgLng2009Houston Texans 166454100.0--9------0.0--2008Houston Texans 11383530.0--62000.002007Houston Texans 9342950.0--72063.0102006Houston Texans 168269130.00102194.59T2005Houston Texans 168869191.0--91011.012004Houston Texans 168773143.0--136014624.361TOTAL84393329644.0054131162--61TacklesInterceptionsYearTeamGCombTotalAstSckSFTYPDefIntTDsYdsAvgLng2009Washington Redskins 16393630.0--12------0.0--2008Washington Redskins 16564970.0--24207336.5422007Washington Redskins 7252050.007116161.061T2006Washington Redskins 157967120.0--161000.002005Washington Redskins 12464240.0--220147.014TOTAL66245214310.006161148--61 Woah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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