@DCGoldPants Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Here is what's going to happen. Teams that used to play Vinny for a sucker will try to play Bruce. If it works...we're ****ed. If it doesn't.....hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 this is what i saw out of the op. That quote is certainly something to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfire Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Is it just me, or is Bruce Allen a master at getting you pumped up without actually saying anything at all? He's sort of a politician in that way, just like his brother. It's a welcome change from the previous bumbling moron. Allen seems like the kind of manager that people will want to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmester Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 That quote is certainly something to like. I hope we go buck-wild with trades this offseason. There are so many players I want gone and some I just feel it is time to get value for in order to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Is it just me, or is Bruce Allen a master at getting you pumped up without actually saying anything at all? He's sort of a politician in that way, just like his brother. It's a welcome change from the previous bumbling moron. Allen seems like the kind of manager that people will want to follow. He is professional. That is the best way to describe him. As time goes on, fans will realize more and more just how bad we were. We truly were a joke, that never had any chance of competing for the division. The media was right, year after year. Regardless of records, our organization had to be one of the bottom three in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Here is what's going to happen. Teams that used to play Vinny for a sucker will try to play Bruce.If it works...we're ****ed. If it doesn't.....hooray! You know for some reason ... this: Doesn't seem nearly as gullible or stupid as ... this ... Anyone else still overjoyed that he's a goner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I expect to see Clinton back as I have all along but that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement that he will be. Herschel Walker helped the Cowboys win, by being traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 He is professional. That is the best way to describe him.So what you're saying is he's no kindergarden ninja? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 So what you're saying is he's no kindergarden ninja? "Nobody messes with our department. Nobody." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Nice to hear these guys are working hard to undo the abortion that cer**** gave us the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriorz Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 One sentance he says we expect to see Clinton back and helping us win...and the next he says we are talking to teams about trades... *Cue suspense music* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfire Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 He is professional. That is the best way to describe him.As time goes on, fans will realize more and more just how bad we were. We truly were a joke, that never had any chance of competing for the division. The media was right, year after year. Regardless of records, our organization had to be one of the bottom three in the league. Well, we weren't "one of the bottom three", because our record was rarely in the bottom three. We were, however, very very bad and (except for the three seasons we went to the playoffs) we never did anything of value. It's obvious looking back that the problem was always the front office. In fairness, what else could it be? It all starts at the top.I have a strong hunch that Vinny got rid of Gregg Williams because Williams was competent and brutal. Vinny made Zorn the coach because Zorn was nice and incompetent (at this stage in his career). I'm sure he thought, "This guy Williams is a competent jerk, just like Shottenheimer. I'd better ship him out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apickmans Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I have a strong feeling that Carter will be part of those talks. Coming off an 11 sack season, but with no room to put him in the 3-4; common logic would place him at the top of those talks, IMO. I wonder what kind of draft pick(s) we would get for Carter. I seriously have no idea what kind of draft value he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Herschel Walker helped the Cowboys win, by being traded. :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I wonder what kind of draft pick(s) we would get for Carter. I seriously have no idea what kind of draft value he has. 4th or lower Santana could get a 3rd (I think Baltimore would be a great partner there) Carlos? 3rd or lower Jason Campbell? 3rd or lower Just off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 4th or lowerSantana could get a 3rd (I think Baltimore would be a great partner there) Carlos? 3rd or lower Jason Campbell? 3rd or lower Just off the top of my head I disagree on Carter. He's produced double-digit sacks 2 of the last 3 years (was injured the other) and is solid against the run for a pass rushing DE. Plus his contract is very reasonable for the level of player he is. He should be worth more than a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apickmans Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 4th or lowerSantana could get a 3rd (I think Baltimore would be a great partner there) Carlos? 3rd or lower Jason Campbell? 3rd or lower Just off the top of my head Your projections sound pretty realistic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmester Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 4th or lowerSantana could get a 3rd (I think Baltimore would be a great partner there) Carlos? 3rd or lower Jason Campbell? 3rd or lower Just off the top of my head Landry? high 2nd Cooley or Davis? high 2nd and 5th Rocky? low 2nd or 3rd (I would rather not trade him though, hopefully he fits in the teams long term plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 We don't need a new defense. We need a new offensive line to dominate the line of scrimmage, a running back to chew up the clock the in the 4th quarter, and special teams that gives us great feild position. I hope Bruce Allen doesn't feel he has to re-invent the wheel. Sometimes all you have to do is tweek a few things, and your vehicle can run real nice, and hit a 100mph without mashing your foot on the gas pedal. You don't have to do something drastic to get results. What we need is a Stephen Jackson type back, and a line that can atleast hold the Hogs jock strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I really want to believe all of this change stuff...but really, I can't until I see it in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokoMike Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I would not be surprised to see a blockbuster package trade or two. Remember George Allen and his first year? 9-4-1, then 11-3, then 10-4, then 10-4. How did that happen? The future is now! I'm sure his son remembers well. edit: I ranted here about Jason Campbell, and deleted it because it ticked me off. George Allen did some package deals and we got a whole new slew of guys who were committed to win, and they did. And, you know, they weren't told they would have time to get it done. It was the future is now. New life was breathed into the team and fans. So, enough of the guys who are sucking the life out of the team and fans. Let's get some winners in here!!! And, no security blankets nor really, really sensitive guys who need hand holding. (you know who they are) HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! P.S. Vinnie did NOT know what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsTime Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 edit: I ranted here about Jason Campbell, and deleted it because it ticked me off. Good. This is actually a legitimate thread, so don't ruin it. Take that JC garbage over to one of the clown threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokoMike Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 4th or lowerSantana could get a 3rd (I think Baltimore would be a great partner there) Carlos? 3rd or lower Jason Campbell? 3rd or lower Just off the top of my head A package deal could get us a couple of # 2's, even a low # 1, plus a player or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennyizer Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Trades- I like that. I think it's more of the Redskins trying to trade our players for either draft picks or other teams players. Seriously? As opposed to what, the Skins trading players for cash considerations, maybe a minor league player to be named later, how about Clinton Portis for a 20oz Dr. Pepper and a Big Bite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I would not be surprised to see a blockbuster package trade or two.Remember George Allen and his first year? 9-4-1, then 11-3, then 10-4, then 10-4. How did that happen? The future is now! I'm sure his son remembers well. edit: I ranted here about Jason Campbell, and deleted it because it ticked me off. George Allen did some package deals and we got a whole new slew of guys who were committed to win, and they did. And, you know, they weren't told they would have time to get it done. It was the future is now. New life was breathed into the team and fans. So, enough of the guys who are sucking the life out of the team and fans. Let's get some winners in here!!! And, no security blankets nor really, really sensitive guys who need hand holding. (you know who they are) HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! P.S. Vinnie did NOT know what I was talking about. Even in an uncapped year I think it will be hard to pull of trades of great magnitutde. While possible, and more likely than with a capped year, it will be very hard to actually pull off (with all the unknowns surrounding the new CBA, when it gets put in place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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