Mordac Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Statistically, the Eagles are better than the Cowboys in most categories. But this game will come down to matchups. Peter v. Ware. Maclin and Jackson v. Newman and Jenkins. Austin and Williams v. Brown and Samuel. It should be a great game. Both teams are talented and playing well. I'm going to try to forget that I hate e everybody on the field and enjoy the best the NFL has to offer. If McNabb is on target, the Cowboys are toast. If he has one of those games where he can't hit a wide-open RB to save his life, the Cowboys have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 this is like arguing which is the better form of cancer.who cares both will make you suffer, and will kill you in the end. And both are composed of diseased tissue that should be removed as soon as possible. I wish they hadn't take away my knives when they gave me access to the admin panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 So, here's the scenario: One of these two teams will win, believe that they are really good, and then get rudely awakened in the playoffs.The other will lose, say the loss wasn't a big deal because they still made the playoffs, and then they too will be slapped in the face in the first round. I'm thinking injuries and special teams determine the outcome of this game. I hope no one important gets hurt...I'd hate for injuries to be the excuse for the failure. Oh, and discussing stats in an NFCE game that has some significance is historically pretty silly. Kumbaya. Pray tell tr1...who will be in the NFCC game? Who will be the NFC representative in the Super Bowl? You've eliminated two teams so far. Only 4 to choose from. Let's hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQCOWBOY Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I don't necessarily think that you throw away stats from teams over a given season but I do believe that the best indicator of a teams performance is looking at what teams have done over a period of three games. Because the NFL is such that so many things change, injuries to players, game conditions, whatever it is, I don't really think you can go much past that. If you look at what the Eagles and the Cowboys have done over the past three games, here is what you see. Eagles Defensively (last 3 games): 27 pts given up, 241 yards given up. Denver 13 pts given up, 261 yards given up. 49ers 38 pts given up, 512 yards given up. NYG 78 pts or 26 pts per game and 1014 total yards or 338 yards per game. Dallas Defensively (last 3 games): 0 pts given up, 208 yards given up. Skinz 17 pts given up, 336 yards given up. Saints 20 pts given up, 341 yards given up. Chargers 37 pts or 12.3 per game and 885 total yards or 295 yards per game. Obviously, certain things factor into these things. Quality of offenses faced, home or away etc. Denver is the 19th ranked offense YPG and 19th with Pts scored. (@ Philly) 49ers have the 29th ranked offense YPG and 19th in Pts scored. (@ Philly) Giants have the 6th ranked offense YPG and 8th in Pts scored. (@ NY) Skinz have the 23rd ranked offense YPG and the 26th in Pts scored. (@Wash.) Saint have the #1 ranked offense YPG and are number 1 in Pts scored. (@ N.O.) Chargers have the 11th ranked offense YPG and are number 2 in pts scored. (@ Dal.) If I look at these stats, my opinion on who has the better defense right now is pretty clear. However, everybody is welcome to make up their own minds and come Sunday, it won't matter who thinks what. It will all be proven on the field, which is OK with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Mod baiting? Hmmm...not really sure how to respond to this. I'm going to try to stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Pray tell tr1...who will be in the NFCC game? Who will be the NFC representative in the Super Bowl?You've eliminated two teams so far. Only 4 to choose from. Let's hear it. Well, unless you've been living on another planet, Brett Farve winning a SB this late in his career would make a tremendous heart-warming story...something the NFL and ESPN could talk and talk and talk about for weeks to come. And, that chance meeting between Green Bay and Farve's new team! Imagine what a story line THAT would be, eh? I'm sorry fellas, your stories don't smack of warmth or drama...they smack of Philly and pukeville. Two cold and harsh places. Watch for the refs to dominate the NFC playoffs. Sorry I couldn't include any stats for this hypothesis...but, you know how some things just HAPPEN in the NFL... :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hmmm...not really sure how to respond to this. I'm going to try to stay on topic. Yes, you were. ;););) ;););) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Yes, you were. ;););) ;););) It was meant as 'I come in peace' to my fellow posters...an attempt at lightheartedness in deference to the new rules...not directed at baiting you or anyone. I now understand that 'kumbaya' has special meaning for you...I'll never use it again. Are you taking PMs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Mod baiting? ewwww you'll go blind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbajr17 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Philly and Dallas both have good defenses. I wouldn't say one is clearly better than the other. One team relies on its blitzing more than the other. The other team is more "bend but don't break". I honestly would take either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 ewwwwyou'll go blind! I already qualify for bifocals :doh: This isn't that hard for me. As much as I don't like NFCE rivals, it's the Cowboy victories that are the hardest to take for me, by far. And I have had/have my share of Cowboy fans in my life who I have liked and that hasn't changed that feeling. I do think the eagles have the edge in the game, but I sure can see it turning out the other way. I do think the Eagles D is better, but the boys have improved there, and I think the boys offesne right now has the edge on the eagles,. So ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Mr. Jones, I think I have made a pretty good case as to why the Cowboys defense gives up less points and why a season's worth of plays and stats tell us this is likely to change on Sunday. You can't point at one metric and predict future success. Without the advantage of field position, more than likely, I'll take the team that gives up less yards per game, less yards per play, is better on third down, creates many more turnovers and has more sacks. Statistically the Eagles are better in most areas, but at the end of the day points are really the only thing that matter and defensively the Cowboys just don't give them up and everything else is pretty much just fluff. Also like other posters have pointed out two of the Cowboys worst defensive games were the first two weeks of the season while the past three weeks have held better offenses to fewer points than the Eagles. As for the Eagles owning Dallas in the 2nd game of the season, that was back under Jim Johnson, who'd play a super vanilla game the first match up and then pull all the stops for the second one. This season the Eagles have blitzed constantly from the word go, and lost to Dallas in Philly doing it. This is an NFCE game though so pretty much all stats, trends, and predictions are meaningless and in 20 hours we'll know who's the NFCE champion, and who's not. Stay safe in Kuwait and I look forward to you coming back with the Eagles (hopefully) eliminated from the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 3, 2010 Author Share Posted January 3, 2010 While the Eagles have given up many points over the last three weeks, it should be noted that the opponents have played have given the Cowboys 3 of their 5 losses while the Eagles won all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordac Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 While the Eagles have given up many points over the last three weeks, it should be noted that the opponents have played have given the Cowboys 3 of their 5 losses while the Eagles won all three. If only the transitive property worked in the NFL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Well, unless you've been living on another planet, Brett Farve winning a SB this late in his career would make a tremendous heart-warming story...something the NFL and ESPN could talk and talk and talk about for weeks to come. And, that chance meeting between Green Bay and Farve's new team! Imagine what a story line THAT would be, eh?I'm sorry fellas, your stories don't smack of warmth or drama...they smack of Philly and pukeville. Two cold and harsh places. Watch for the refs to dominate the NFC playoffs. Sorry I couldn't include any stats for this hypothesis...but, you know how some things just HAPPEN in the NFL... :rotflmao: So your NFC pick in the Vikings? And their opponent is Green Bay in the NFCCG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroburrito Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 eagles defense is CLEARLY better. their offense is CLEARLY better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMarco Murray 29 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 eagles defense is CLEARLY better.their offense is CLEARLY better. Woah now buddy . I am excited as you are but there is 30 minutes left and the Eagles offense is pretty darn explosive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Chang Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 It's funny. The Eagles fans were so close to not talking it up all year. Go on a run against some mediocre competition and here it comes again. There's a 2nd half to be played, but Philly is outclassed by Dallas today so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroburrito Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Woah now buddy . I am excited as you are but there is 30 minutes left and the Eagles offense is pretty darn explosive even if dallas loses. he was wrong. turnovers are everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMarco Murray 29 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 even if dallas loses. he was wrong.turnovers are everything. He won't admit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty_199 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dallas looks like is the better team so far, but really keep killing themselves with penatlies. They really need to cut those down in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroburrito Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 our punting unit is holding the eagles to 0 points!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaldeje Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I hate that the Cowboys are winning, but I love threads like this. Good times, Westy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I hate that the Cowboys are winning, but I love threads like this. Good times, Westy. you'd think Westy would have learned by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 You're a ****ing jinx. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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