LD0506 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 This is HUGE! Vinny is gone, ding dong, the Vinny's gone! How likely did that look 24 hours ago? And did Dan sacrifice him for public opinion and just hire Vinny2.0 as a replacement sockpuppet? No, he went and hired a genuine NFL GM with a resume at the position to run the franchise. un- freekin-believeable! And yet, in the midst of Christmas come early, a scant few hours after the news breaking, some are STILL not satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Rooney rules only applies when hiring a coach....I'm pretty certain. But regardless, I agree with you. Dan would not just hire someone without properly interviewing multiple candidates. Rooney rule applies to the FO now too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG4Life Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's spelled:Panini (Italian for "small bread roll"; its plural form is panini. The word comes from the Latin cum panis, "with bread.") not Panci :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Holmgren had contol with the Seahawks. Hows his fomer team doing, and make no mistake, those are mostly players that he wanted to bring in. Theres no exact science in talent evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaskinsfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 this process has been going on for weeks, an NFL source reported that the Skins followed the Rooney Rule and interviewed multiple people. I don't think this happened overnight..chill out, it's a start.. Most NFL analysis thought hiring a GM was the first thing that had to happen in order to turn the team around. Allen's title includes GM, something Cerrato did not have. So this in itself is a good development, as well as getting Cerrato out. Allen should do OK, the head coach hire will be huge because they will have input into the roster's makeup. Gruden could be coming to the team, they will wait until after the season's over to make any changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I am beyond elated that Cerrato is out, but I too think the timing here is very odd to say the least. I can see if he signed holmgren today, he's actually in demand, but NOBODY was talking about Bruce Allen, you could have taken at least a week or two to do your due diligence and interview a couple people. I especially won't like this if he brings in Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Can we start deleting these "I have a feeling" threads? They are cluttering up the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 this was not an impulse move....look at this thread from nearly 1 year ago regarding Dan's interest in Allen. http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=279322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOALSKIN Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 There were early reports of an internal rift between Danny and Vinny. Allegedly vinny was trash talking the Danster. Thus expediting the process. Vinny has now found his name on the dreaded Do not call list (fellow members include Matt Millen, Jerry Glanville, Jim Fassel, Rich Kotie, and Nationals GM Jim Bowden). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggosMohawk Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Allen should do OK, the head coach hire will be huge because they will have input into the roster's makeup. Gruden could be coming to the team, they will wait until after the season's over to make any changes. I think Allen was officially hired mid-season to start the process of making changes now. I would not be surprised if he starts making roster moves immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 What's a panci button? Paloffs is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&G Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Panic Move??? You really have to reach to come to that conclusion which points to shameful and unwarranted Snyder bashing. Our owner has done what virtually every Redskin fan wanted, yet you criticize him for the timing?? Frankly, your view is outrageous at least in my opinion. I think the timing is perfect as it will allow Allen time to get his organization set up and to get a head start on all the post season evaluations, free agents, and the draft. Great move. Thank you Mr. Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 This is great timing. New GM has a month to evaluate current players and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Do people honestly think Snyder called Allen up today and offered him the job or something? No way. As I said in another thread this move was obviously in the works for weeks. Vinny resigned because he did not want a demotion working for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I think we hired Bruce Allen because Danny panicked. Why do you make this move now. When January would have been fine?HOLMGREN. Browns start discussion with Holmgren last week. Sherm obviously became the new darling for Danny. He gets credit for turning our Offense around. Danny was eyeballing Holmgren the whole time ( used to work with Sherm ). Holmgren would not talk to Danny since Vinny was still in place. Danny now panics and starts pulling strings. No other potential GM/Coach will discuss with him formally until the season is over and Vinny will need to be fired. Instead of getting Holmgren or Shanihan with GM experience he grabs Allen. The good news: Allen has experience working with no money ( TB) and experience dealing with over bearing owners ( Al Davis) . He has ties with the Redskins of our youth ( and Danny’s). So in a panic move by Danny we may have actually made a solid move. This didnt happen over night. This process has been going on for a long time in my opinion. Probably since losing to the worst teams in the league. I am sure he talked to Holmgren along with others. There was no panic, I am sure his plan fell into place over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschlesi Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Just because it did not happen over night, does not mean it still was not a panic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I look at it differently that Danny "hitting the panic button." Why not get a solid GM in place before anyone else can get him? Then he can evaluate what is already in place and get a head start on making decisions before the season ends. Personally, I wanted Eric DeCosta, but I'll give Allen a shot and see what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastate Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Um... seems like this thread didn't need to be made? Allen is a good GM and if you have the chance to hire them, you do it. No need to wait.. Unless you are saying Holgren is better, which I don't think he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Nothing wrong with him making the move now. Gotta give Snyder some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Panic Move??? You really have to reach to come to that conclusion which points to shameful and unwarranted Snyder bashing. Our owner has done what virtually every Redskin fan wanted, yet you criticize him for the timing?? Frankly, your view is outrageous at least in my opinion.I think the timing is perfect as it will allow Allen time to get his organization set up and to get a head start on all the post season evaluations, free agents, and the draft. Great move. Thank you Mr. Snyder. Totally agree...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Danny must read the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 In this case, no way in hell do you hire a replacement the same day of the firing, unless you had it planned in advance. The Allen hiring wasn't a "panic move" to Vinny leaving. Now if the Cerrato firing / Allen hiring was a "panic move" by Snyder, after seeing the Redskins on a two year slide...... this could be good or bad. Good in that we need to try someone other than Vinny to get anywhere. So the result of this "panic move" is good. Bad in that if Danny keeps meddling, and shows no more than two year's patience with the new GM, we aren't going to get anywhere either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 This wasn't a panic move. Roger Goodell and the guys who monitor the Rooney Rule have already come out and say the Redskins did "more than enough" to comply with the rule, meaning that they've interviewed multiple candidates. George Allen (former Gov of VA) came out and said he's known about it for a while and was shocked that no one leaked it. Besides, how can you panic because Holmgren might go to the Browns, he was awful until he gave up his personnel duties. In GB he had Ron Wolf, possibly the greatest GM and Football mind of the last two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 He knew there was going to be a mass exodus of season ticket holders if he didn't fire Vinny. Now enough people are going to delude themselves into believing that things will really be different, and he's bought himself another 3 years when he's just going to pull another rabbit out of his ass. "J.D. Gibbs as coach - He succeeded in Nascar he can do it here too - Tradition! - 3 Super Bowls! Wooo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Far from a panic move. I just read the article from last year, and heard on 980 he's been already talking to Allen several weeks ago, and other executives to take over the team. Actually, this is a long time coming, and this move is to evaluate talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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