Hooterman Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Or at least the Cowboys don't show the hate for us they used to. Anyone else notice how many times Marion Barber and his team mates congratulated (butt slapped or whatever you want to call it) a Redskins player after a play? I'm all for sportsmanship but in this rivalry the time for sportsmanship is after the game and the time to play with a sense of "hatred of the opponent" is during the game. Not personal hatred, but hatred of the opponent's organization and what they stand for as a rival. Kind of like Florida-Georgia without the eye gouging and dirty play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Or at least the Cowboys don't show the hate for us they used to. Anyone else notice how many times Marion Barber and his team mates congratulated (butt slapped or whatever you want to call it) a Redskins player after a play? I'm all for sportsmanship but in this rivalry the time for sportsmanship is after the game and the time to play with a sense of "hatred of the opponent" is during the game. Not personal hatred, but hatred of the opponent's organization and what they stand for as a rival. Kind of like Florida-Georgia without the eye gouging and dirty play. Lol! I used to really "hate the Cowboys" back in the day. I know this is just the fans perspective, but as I got older and wiser, I came to the realization that the we were really no different than the Boy's. The players now a days fight very hard against each other. The game yesterday was brutal. That's about all we can ask for. I couldn't care less If they hate each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchap Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Players today aren't usually with any team for their entire careers the way they used to be. All traditional rivalries have been watered down from a player perspective because of this. I think the more interesting thing is the the change in fan intensity, mostly from the Dallas side, in the last decade. I've lived in both areas, and while Dallas fans have always been more calm, I'm not sure they still consider the Skins far and away their biggest rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooterman Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Players today aren't usually with any team for their entire careers the way they used to be. All traditional rivalries have been watered down from a player perspective because of this. I think the more interesting thing is the the change in fan intensity, mostly from the Dallas side, in the last decade. I've lived in both areas, and while Dallas fans have always been more calm, I'm not sure they still consider the Skins far and away their biggest rival. You bring up a good point about how the Cowboys fans think about their rivalries. Because the Giants and Eagles have been more consistently competitive over the past years I guess those teams rivalries have become more important to the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I saw Cowboys fans and players applauding Rinehart as he was taken off the field. I was actually disappointed...I wanted to hear booing. Thankfully, a douchebag Cowboys fan started texting me last night a bunch of bull**** so my hatred was filled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Lol! I used to really "hate the Cowboys" back in the day. I know this is just the fans perspective, but as I got older and wiser, I came to the realization that the we were really no different than the Boy's. yep. Don't hate them. Don't hate the organization either. Football doesn't consume my emotions anymore. Not a big enough of a thing to worry about anymore. A life threatening emergency will do that to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Sports has changed. In the "good ole days," you played for the high school near your house, one college, and one pro team. You never saw another player except when you played or maybe at a bordello in Nevada once a year. And you made $65,000 which meant that a loss could mean working at Sears. Now, all star athletes know each other when they are 16. It's much much much worse in the NBA thanks to AAU, but all NFL guys have met at various college camps, Nike camps, and all-star games. And they all train together in the off-season. You are now playing against your buddy - not some guy who tried to give it to your wife at an Airport Marriot in 1975. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooterman Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 yep. Don't hate them. Don't hate the organization either. Football doesn't consume my emotions anymore. Not a big enough of a thing to worry about anymore. A life threatening emergency will do that to ya. Sounds like you may have had a life threatening emergency and came out with a new sense of emotion, the latter of which is cool. For me, part of the game is the rivalry between division teams, especially one as long term as skins/cowboys. I don't own any "Dallas Sucks" t shirts or stickers with the little guy pissing on the star, but I do enjoy watching the teams really going after each other with a little extra. One of my fondest games in the past 10 years ago was the Cooley game at Fedex where we demolished them thanks in large part to Cooley's big TD's. Such a great emotion. Time and some mediocrity on the Redskins side has weakened that emotion for the teams and the fans I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It's kind of hard for me to hate the Cowboys or their fans. 1) My brother in law is a huge Cowboys fan but he isn't obnoxious about it so I take my cue from him. 2) When Sean was murdered some of the classiest posts came from the Cowboy fans that post here. 3) When my older brother died...my priorities shifted dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 the redskins have been bad for so long I guess people actually feel sorry for them. makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 These guys know each other from college and playing against each other twice a year. The Cowboys and Redskins have really had any games on the line that make or break one or the other team. There is little reason for these guys to have much malice towards one another. Teams like the Steelers and Ravens who are typically fighting for position in the division and the tough AFC have more reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I saw Cowboys fans and players applauding Rinehart as he was taken off the field.I was actually disappointed...I wanted to hear booing. Thankfully, a douchebag Cowboys fan started texting me last night a bunch of bull**** so my hatred was filled heheh. Yeah, I'll never stop hating the Cowboys but I was really curious when Rinehart started getting on the cart. Glad they applauded, and there are some decent Cowboys fans, but I'll never ever stop hating the Cowboys. As for the players, maybe I blocked it from my mind but I don't recall much butt-patting. Recalled a lot of jawing though, and a TON of heavy hits by both sides. The rivalry is still strong, it just isn't as meaningful anymore because neither team has been very succesful the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 These guys know each other from college and playing against each other twice a year. The Cowboys and Redskins have really had any games on the line that make or break one or the other team. There is little reason for these guys to have much malice towards one another.Teams like the Steelers and Ravens who are typically fighting for position in the division and the tough AFC have more reason to. Yeah remember the divisional playoffs game where players on both teams were getting knocking out left and right. Of course I saw Landry doing that to a couple receivers last night. Good job Landry. Roy Williams was shaking and holding his head the rest of the game trying to get his wits back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mexico Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It's kind of hard for me to hate the Cowboys or their fans.1) My brother in law is a huge Cowboys fan but he isn't obnoxious about it so I take my cue from him. 2) When Sean was murdered some of the classiest posts came from the Cowboy fans that post here. 3) When my older brother died...my priorities shifted dramatically. Hey, I am sorry to hear about your brother. That is tough. But when it comes to the ST thing....not the same for me. After ST was killed some cowboy fan hung up a sign on my deck that said ST is dead and cowboys are 10-0 or something to that extent. I will never forgive the heartless bastar# for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooterman Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 There were lots of good hits yesterday for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Here is an article By Rich Tandler on this matter: http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/landing_redskins/?blockID=93555&feedID=2993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some of thesde guys are friends, but they also were trash talking like crazy, and a slap on the helmet isnt like shaking a guys hand, its more of a friendly slap saying lets stop before this goes somewhere we dont want it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Free agency has killed most rivalries. At least at the player level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honejc Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 we cant have any legitimate rivals until we can win games.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyCowboy01 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 You bring up a good point about how the Cowboys fans think about their rivalries. Because the Giants and Eagles have been more consistently competitive over the past years I guess those teams rivalries have become more important to the Cowboys. Cowboys fan here. I believe if you ask most Cowboys fans, we would say the Eagles are our number one rival right now. It began with Ryan's "Bountry game" and has continued from there. It's also seemed recently, that the games are more meaningful and we get a lot more out of beating them. Our number two rival are the Ginats. When the league asked JJ who he wanted to play in the openning of the new stadium, it was the Giants. Again, I think it has a lot to do with how meaningful the games have been recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Cowboys fan here.I believe if you ask most Cowboys fans, we would say the Eagles are our number one rival right now. It began with Ryan's "Bountry game" and has continued from there. It's also seemed recently, that the games are more meaningful and we get a lot more out of beating them. Our number two rival are the Ginats. When the league asked JJ who he wanted to play in the openning of the new stadium, it was the Giants. Again, I think it has a lot to do with how meaningful the games have been recently. Thanks for the input. I hate you and your f'ing team. :helmet: The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jive_crankin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I think that both teams have been down so long that the rivalry had been dead for years. It even getting boring listening to Joe T talk about the famous 9-5 game when he ran out back of the end zone back in 78 or 79 and the Harvey Martin wreath throwing back at ole RFK stadium. Seems like ages ago and it was. Now, there's nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Landry seemed to hate them. He was fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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