Spaceman Spiff Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 These documentaries have been great, I know a lot of people watched the Gretzky one and I've seen them mentioned in other threads. I thought the one on the USFL was especially good. Tonight they're showing the Len Bias one so it seems like a good time to start a thread to discuss all of them. For those of you who don't know they're on every Tuesday at 8pm. IMO, this is when espn is at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 E:60 followed by 30 for 30.... Greatest two hours on TV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Didn't they have one on Ali/Holmes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yes last week This one should be interesting, 7 more minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Lol those guys are crazy...did you see those trick shots "Dude perfect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Didn't they have one on Ali/Holmes? Yeah, it was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I missed the Ali/Holmes one. Taping the Bias one right now. The Gretzky one was OK. The Baltimore Colts Band, and the USFL ones were OUTSTANDING..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 this **** is sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 I just remember hearing his name over and over, I had to be about 5. I think that was the first time I'd heard about drugs, my parents were pretty upset and I don't think anyone could have hid me from it. So that was the moment I decided I'd never do cocaine. I figured early on if it could happen to someone that famous could die from it, I could to. That was all I needed to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 And Marion Barry makes an appearance. But Jim Vance is the ****ing man. I love that guy. Never knew he had a coke problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Buckhantz made an appearance too, and James Brown Really is a very moving documentary. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 This is the shady part of the story. The use of the near pure coke, that is inconceivable to me that him and his college buddies had nearly pure cocaine and were recreationally using it. I always thought and still do think that part of the story is missing as to how deep Len was into this. Really a sad and terrible story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 And now the documentary begins to analyze the war on drugs. Very intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Man. I was 13 or 14 in Charlottesville, watched Bias all the time on TV and probably at UHall. I remember being really confused when it was announced that it was a heart attack. Guess I just wasn't aware that coke could cause that. I feel sorry for all involved, even those like his roommate who could be seen as bearing a lot of the responsibility. The docus have been great so far, my favorite is the Colts. I think they're doing one on Hank Gathers too, his death and Loyola-Marymount's reaction to it (and possible blame) is really compelling. Can't wait for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's sad what happened to Len, but the documentary points out that his death triggered a reaction so strong from Congress and the government against drugs, packing the jail systems with small time offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Here is a list of 26 of the 30 docs. Most of them look really compelling and I will try and watch them all... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_for_30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Donnie Simpson on the post credits. They put tons of DMV in this. The end scene of the doc was chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Powerful... That's how I sum it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Some of them are more lighthearted than the one we just saw...the Reggie Miller one looks good. I also see Ice Cube directed one on the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRogersGuy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Wow, Without Bias was totally incredible. Very, very powerful. Probably my favorite so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 What'd everyone think of the Bias documentary? One of my good friends worked on promoting that movie because Kirk Fraser, the director, is his cousin. I saw a few responses but I'm sure he'd like for me to tell him what people thought about it on here. I would have watched it but I had to study for neurophys instead. Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 What'd everyone think of the Bias documentary? One of my good friends worked on promoting that movie because Kirk Fraser, the director, is his cousin. I saw a few responses but I'm sure he'd like for me to tell him what people thought about it on here. I would have watched it but I had to study for neurophys instead. Balls. Pretty amazing. The footage and the photos were incredible. The cast of people he interviewed was great. It touched on all the important angles that were impacted by his death. I don't think anyone could have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Here is a list of 26 of the 30 docs. Most of them look really compelling and I will try and watch them all...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_for_30 ooh, thanks for that list! Strongly looking forward to: Loyola-Marymount Evert & Navratilova Reggie Miller Not looking forward to: Michael Jordan in the minor leagues (who cares? not me) Tupac Shakur (okay, friends with Tyson but does that justify it as a sports docu? Big WTF is my early reaction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Pretty amazing. The footage and the photos were incredible. The cast of people he interviewed was great. It touched on all the important angles that were impacted by his death. I don't think anyone could have done better. I'll definitely catch it tomorrow when it re-airs on ESPN2. I promised my friend I'd watch it today, but school got in the way. He also invited me to the premiere at Hoff Theatre, and couldn't make it then either. Can't blow him off 3 times, haha. He also said that they want to come out with a feature film sometime depicting this story, but not sure at all about the timeline for that. Look out for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 What'd everyone think of the Bias documentary? One of my good friends worked on promoting that movie because Kirk Fraser, the director, is his cousin. I saw a few responses but I'm sure he'd like for me to tell him what people thought about it on here. I would have watched it but I had to study for neurophys instead. Balls. It was spectacular. It was done fabulously and really intertwined old footage and people actually around Len at that time to tell the story. It had every major player involved. I would bet that it also will drum up the controversy surrounding his death (many believe someone spiked his coke or that Tribble gave him a lethal dose of pure cocaine). Overall it is great and I really admire Fraser's work, he did the Lil Kim thing for BET and also did the American Gangster series which was fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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