veteranskinsfan Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 If the Redskins hired Chucky then Bruce Allen would be brought in as the General Manager. What do you think about George Allen's son? Would he be a good General Manager for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintrain Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 He's a good friend of Snyder, has a decent-but not stellar personnel record, works well with Gruden.. That would be my second choice behind Shanahan. In Tampa they were kind of hamstrung by a cheap owner (usually $20-$30 million under the cap) so that won't be an issue. It would be interesting to see what they do with an owner willing to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 He's a good friend of Snyder, has a decent-but not stellar personnel record, works well with Gruden.. That would be my second choice behind Shanahan. In Tampa they were kind of hamstrung by a cheap owner (usually $20-$30 million under the cap) so that won't be an issue. It would be interesting to see what they do with an owner willing to spend. I'm not sure it's the best solution but I would be on board with it. I like his ties to the Redskins and I like Gruden as a coach. With Snyder's checkbook they could probably do pretty well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PosseLover Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Sounds still like Fantasy Football free spending for D.S to me. $10 mil a year between the both...neither one will be fully welcomed here...and those that do will be booing if we start 1 - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Sounds still like Fantasy Football free spending for D.S to me. $10 mil a year between the both...neither one will be fully welcomed here...and those that do will be booing if we start 1 - 3 Thing is, it makes no difference what Dan wants to pay the coaches and staff. He could give them both $100 million a year for all we care. The only guys we have to worry about Dan overpaying is the players, since that is where we get salary cap issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Bruce Allen wasn't very good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatturkishguy Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I think I like the Gruden solution the best of all of them. Everybody else seems to be someone else's coach, shanahan is the broncos, Cowher is the Steelers, Holmgren is Seatle, Gruden is the only one that has hopped around enough to not really have a long legacy. Maybe we can make him on in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins81a Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Bruce Allen wasn't very good though. Are you guys kidding me, he is 10X better then that joke terd Cerrato. FRED DAVIS....FRED DAVIS..what the hell was that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Are you guys kidding me, he is 10X better then that joke terd Cerrato. FRED DAVIS....FRED DAVIS..what the hell was that! Oh don't get me wrong, Cerrato stinks. I'm just saying Allen stinks too (but not as bad). If Allen did his job better Gruden would still be in TB in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 If the Redskins hired Chucky then Bruce Allen would be brought in as the General Manager. What do you think about George Allen's son? Would he be a good General Manager for us? Should we supersize?:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm a big fan of Chucky, but truth be told if you look at Bruce Allen's drafts, they haven't been anything to write home about. 04-08 the only decent talent he draft was Jeremy Trueblood (decent player), Gaines Adams (jury is still out), Cadillac Williams (jury is very much out) and Aqib Talib who basically never passed a drug test in college. So he drafts guys with character problems & off field issues. Plenty of busts mixed in there and practically no diamonds in the rough. He'd be an upgrade over Vinny, but he may not be the answer to success. Keep in mind he was not the Bucs GM during their Super Bowl year, Rich McKay was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 He's a good friend of Snyder, has a decent-but not stellar personnel record, works well with Gruden.. That would be my second choice behind Shanahan. In Tampa they were kind of hamstrung by a cheap owner (usually $20-$30 million under the cap) so that won't be an issue. It would be interesting to see what they do with an owner willing to spend. Why would Shanny be ahead of Chucky on your list? Chucky did much more with less to work with than Shanny did, and Shanny would probably want complete control as HC/GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 This is kinda off topic, but is it possible for us to hire a coach who brings in his own scouting staff - like some scouts that aren't a part of the Redskins, but he pays them through his salary? It'd be interesting if a coach had his own scout/lawyer/GM to help him to argue with Snyder over who to draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Gaines Adams was just traded....He was one of Allen's last failures in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm a big fan of Chucky, but truth be told if you look at Bruce Allen's drafts, they haven't been anything to write home about. 04-08 the only decent talent he draft was Jeremy Trueblood (decent player), Gaines Adams (jury is still out), Cadillac Williams (jury is very much out) and Aqib Talib who basically never passed a drug test in college. So he drafts guys with character problems & off field issues. Plenty of busts mixed in there and practically no diamonds in the rough. He'd be an upgrade over Vinny, but he may not be the answer to success. Keep in mind he was not the Bucs GM during their Super Bowl year, Rich McKay was. Gotta say Aqib Talib is a top 5 corner...besides Moss's TD he was all over him and to hold Eagles DJax to 1 catch is pretty stellar IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Its starting to look like Vinny is here to stay just because he lets snyder do whatever he wants. Vinny is just a puppet for snyder and even though I would love a new GM, sndyer will probably just find another puppet But...getting gruden as a coach could work out just because he did it with the raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Trust me Snyder is behind most of the draft picks. He picks all the award winners. We picked the best punter last year and the best TE. He is in love with name brands. I wouldn't mind Allen so long as he is not compromising his professional integrity by having Snyder picking all the players and just being a rubber stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedlightG20 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 See the sig--I'm down for Holmgren to be the GM, with Chucky running the show on gameday. It's true the Allen was strapped by a cheap owner, but even still, his drafting has been par at best. Honestly, I'm more interested in how we grow our draft picks into great players, intead of focusing on drafting good players then not allowing them to get on the field. The best way to learn is by throwing young players onto the field in my opinion--this 1-3 year waiting period for top picks to see the field is bogus. JC had to wait over a year and a half for his start. Our new receivers and TE can't even see the field. Put them on the field, and let them grow into their roles. Too bad if they aren't ready--do it anyway. I think our position coaches need a huge upgrade. Hopefully Chucky and Gruden will fix that. Look at the Giants this year. They could have went out this past offseason and brought in a big name receiver, but didn't. They opted to stick with their young talent, and guess what? No one was expecting the impact they're having now, because they stepped up to the plate. Now the Giants have one of the best receiving combos in the league, at a fraction of the cost of a big-name free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 The only thing I don't like about Gruden and Allen coming in as a package is that they were both fired as a package which means they were both doing something wrong in TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Why would Shanny be ahead of Chucky on your list? Chucky did much more with less to work with than Shanny did, and Shanny would probably want complete control as HC/GM. That is what we need! A competent GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 That is what we need! A competent GM. Since when has Shanny been a competent GM? His last 10 years (after #7 retired) he won ONE playoff game. So he either wasn't a very good GM picking players, or he did a sub-par job coaching them. 10 years, one playoff win - sound familar? That's a statistic that the Skins need to change. Chucky has been there and done that, and he's always squeezed every bit of talent out of the players he's coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Since when has Shanny been a competent GM?His last 10 years (after #7 retired) he won ONE playoff game. So he either wasn't a very good GM picking players, or he did a sub-par job coaching them. 10 years, one playoff win - sound familar? That's a statistic that the Skins need to change. Chucky has been there and done that, and he's always squeezed every bit of talent out of the players he's coached. Chucky can't keep a job (see "job hopper"). If Chucky was the end-all be-all, he'd be able to keep a job. Players hate playing for him. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 And by the way, Chucky has ZERO playoff wins since the Bucs won the Super Bowl. And that wasn't even his team. That was totally Dungy! Chucky is barely 500 as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I think people wanting Gruden to be the next HC in Washington don't actually get the full picture of what he was like in Tampa. And Gruden combined WITH Bruce Allen? No thanks. Every Bucs fan I know threw parties the day those guys got fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Horrible idea. Neither got anything done or improved the team in any way from what was already there when they both were hired. Might as well keep Zorn/Vincenzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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