Rhodus333 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Seriously everyone who's hoping for a new, BIG name coach signing right now needs a reality check. Switching coaches isn't the way to TRULY fix this team. If they do come here it'll be for the same reason players do. To get a fat paycheck and look around, see that there are a TON of problems with how this franchise is run, and realize that they are in a no win situation. What's worse, many of the problems will most likely be ones they won't be given enough freedom to try and fix. Zorn may be unqualified, but bringing in another coach right now, based on HIS NAME alone, not on how well he fits the direction of our franchise (do we even have a direction?) is the wrong move. Signing Gruden or Shanahan or Cowher right now is just the excuse Dan needs to make a big name splash that'll get fans excited again, without having to really change anything. Think first Snyder, and stop making huge team related descisions out of desperation. Do what is best for the team in the long term, not what gives you a 1% better chance of saving a season and squeezing a few extra bucks out of the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepRyder Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wish we could get marty again. He was the only coach in the last 15 years to have us going in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake84 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 We need to find a way to force idiot Dan to sell the team....that will be the only way to fix us, and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I agree with this. Look at some of the coaches having success right now: Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Mike Smith, Josh McDaniels, Tony Sparano, Sean Payton, to name a few. I don't think any of these guys were thought of as "big name" hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wish we could get marty again. He was the only coach in the last 15 years to have us going in the right direction. Yeah, if alienating veterans, Drafting even more useless WRs than Vinny has, and having the 28th ranked offense is the right direction. Than Yes, Marty had us in the "right" direction... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Colony Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I also don't want to see a "big-name" coach hired. Too much splash but possibly no substance. I posted this on another thread- why has no one mentioned Russ Grimm? Take a hard look at him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wish we could get marty again. He was the only coach in the last 15 years to have us going in the right direction. That will never happen because it would mean Danny would have to get rid of Vinny again. Unfortunately for fans and the team, Vinny is not going anywhere. Still, if we can get a Head Coach who is capable of adapting to player's strengths, instead of a coach who is all about his own scheme, we might find a measure of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodus333 Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 I just want us to get away from signing people based on what they HAVE ALREADY done, rather than what they CAN do to help our team. This goes for players and coaches. I want players and coaches to make names for themselves while theyre in Washington, not stroll in here after they've lost any motivation to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneva Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 If you don't get the coach you want now, at the end of the season he will have been picked up by another team. Zorn and JC are history. The Cowboys, Bills, TB, Rams and even Carolina may want to pick up a top NFL coach. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOVE NOW. I want Gruden, but any of the other top three would be fine with me. The first thing Gruden would do is set JC on the bench and play TC in this WC system. JC is lost and holds on to the ball way to long for this type of passing game to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I see your point but I think we need a big name coach due to the power they would require to sign here... a big name coach isn't going to come to a team where the staff is already assembled for him and he has no say over personnel... a guy getting his first HC job (like zorn) will go along with whatever just to get the opportunity... our FO needs to step back enough at least to allow a coach to bring his own staff with him... the personnel part, well, I doubt danny will ever relinquish that again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjblair Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Head coaches are not the problem and can't be until Snyder and Vinnie are out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Firing Z-man is mainly a PR move to appease the fans. Most fans don't give a **** about O-line woes. Football players are all a bunch of magicians, after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I agree with this. Look at some of the coaches having success right now: Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Mike Smith, Josh McDaniels, Tony Sparano, Sean Payton, to name a few. I don't think any of these guys were thought of as "big name" hires. Exactly. And those guys are young and hungry. They won't bail after a few high paying years to hit the front 9 and take a cushy job in the booth. All the names being tossed around right now are in just that situation. Of course the really good coaches will also demand to name their own coaching staffs which Lil' Danny will never allow....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerhog Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Umm... so who are these young up and coming coaches that aren't big names? Because I thought they all got hired in the last two years...(one of them, supposedly, being Jim Zorn). I'm interested in Grimm also, but who else? I havn't heard a single name mentioned other than Gruden, Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren and Grimm. All of theses guys are big names except for Grimm, and Grimm is not unkmown... There will be as many as 6-8 teams looking for coaches at the end of the year, so who is taking up the slack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 The advantage with john Gruden is that he is an angry coach and more likely to bench players who don't perform, so under JG you either perform or sit down, players can work that out, also i believe he would stand up to danny and vinny and he would tell them who he wants and not necessarily take who they want to provide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 And expecations are even higher with a big name coach. If people are impatient and ready to fire a coach without experience (who should be expected to make some mistakes), how do you think an experience coach not named Joe Gibbs will be judged here lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 as much as I hate Parcells on a personal level he would be a great RETREAD coach. Not to mention a big name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I think I'd like to see Russ Grimm be head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 REMEMBER: Coaching football is a young man's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 The idea of a coach coming here to get paid and not to genuinely help this franchise makes me sick to my stomach and it could happen..players do it all the time, you're right. Something needs to change/improve and it will probably be luck if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabR Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Think i am leaning towards Grimm. Big name coaches have nothing to prove, need someone with fire in his belly and no nonsense Snyder needs to take a clue from JKC, hire a good GM and stay out of the coaches and GM'S business and intervene ONLY in case of a dispute between the the two methinks this will be our worst season since 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Snyder needs to take a clue from JKC, hire a good GM and stay out of the coaches and GM'S business and intervene ONLY in case of a dispute between the the two I think it was Joe Gibbs and Darrell Green that said that JKC would make sure everyone knew that he was the boss. If he didn't like how a player was playing, he would go down to the practice field and tell him what he thought. BTW, we probably wouldn't be in this mess if JKC wasn't such a strange old bird and requiring the team to be sold in his will. He probably thought he could buy his way into heaven by giving away most off his estate after his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wish we could get marty again. He was the only coach in the last 15 years to have us going in the right direction. I know it may sound crazy, but I honestly think Snyder should look at Marty as a possible candidate for GM IF he does the right thing and fires Vinny. I know they made up a few years back because of a personal matter involving Marty's family and I really think he could set this organization straight again if given a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Firing Z-man is mainly a PR move to appease the fans. Most fans don't give a **** about O-line woes. Football players are all a bunch of magicians, after all... We've been crying about our Lines for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I agree with the OP. I'm not completely against a big name coach but I think that a big name coach would come here for all of the wrong reasons. A big name coach would come here for a pay day. They wouldn't be in the team's best interest. If we get a Shannahan, a Cowher, a Gruden... I wouldn't suddenly be invigorated with hope. I am now skeptical to all things Redskins related. The burden of proof is now on the Redskins. If you were a potential head coach, why would you choose the Redskins? There are at least 3 or 4 teams out there who will be looking for a job this offseason who are better off than the Redskins. The state of our organization is abysmal. All our good players aren't getting any younger and the FO won't prepare this team for success in the future. The only reason for a big name coach to come on board is for a paycheck. We've all learned that money cannot buy championships and that is exactly what we would probably be doing (yet again) with a big name coach. Simply put, I would be completely skeptical about John Gruden walking into town here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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