Sticksboi05 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 And on a side note, Orakpo should be playing DE not LB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Dear Moss, Instead of describing your fight and style of punches you threw on the sideline, get with your QB and discuss ways to get open... Sincerely, An idiot who foolishly paid for Redskins merchandise that helps pay your salary. I'm very conflicted on this. I like when we play smart, but I don't have a problem with Santana smacking someone around Hines Ward style. Santana is a tiny guy, and I think he was trying to make a statement that he'll fight as hard as anyone else. In game 1, we can use it for our benefit for the rest of the season. If it keeps happening, then it's a problem. If his production doesn't match his attitude, then it's a problem. Right now, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTight Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 A good D will likely become a bad D if they are on the field 40 plus minutes. Get my thrift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goflyhelo Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'm just repeating what other are saying that Big Al cannot be blocked. He is a beast and we will start winning games due to his presence in our D-line. He is worth the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Fat Albert was great against the run. Unfortunately he didn't generate much pass rush. Last year the Titans had pass rush studs up front like Vandenbosch. Someone else has to step up(earth to Andre Carter??). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJMan Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 A good D will likely become a bad D if they are on the field 40 plus minutes. Get my thrift? Totally agree. Think how much better he'll be if the offense actually gives him a breather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennSkinsFanhR Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I love Big AL, but as the Giants prove, you win up front. The Giants move the ball because they have a good offensive line. As much as a love Haynesworth, and yes, I even have a Big Al jersey, wonder if the cash would have been better spent dividing the $100 million and signing offensive line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailskins11 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 A good D will likely become a bad D if they are on the field 40 plus minutes. Get my thrift? Thank you and consider that even then, they only gave up 16 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Haha. I can't believe people are defending Hall. That might've been the worst game from a starting DB that I've ever seen. Even on his pick he was beat. Landry (who also sucked) made that happen. D Hall just got lucky to be four steps behind the receiver to catch the deflection. Definitely happy with Haynesworth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Haha. I can't believe people are defending Hall. That might've been the worst game from a starting DB that I've ever seen. Even on his pick he was beat. Landry (who also sucked) made that happen. D Hall just got lucky to be four steps behind the receiver to catch the deflection.Definitely happy with Haynesworth though. Hate to say it, but you're right about Hall. I think Landry played dumb, but still played hard. Hall played like an absolute bum. He'd be in danger of losing his job if Landry didn't bat him the free pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbean Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Andre Carter did have a sack, a pass defensed, a forced fumble, and a couple solo tackles. That's not too bad against the Giants' OL. Fat Albert was great against the run. Unfortunately he didn't generate much pass rush. Last year the Titans had pass rush studs up front like Vandenbosch. Someone else has to step up(earth to Andre Carter??). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Yea he did look really good, Hall looked terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Yea he did look really good, Hall looked terrible. My roommate is a big Hall-hater, and he mocked me heartily when Randy Moss abused Deangelo in the preseason. I said you're crazy! Deangelo Hall will NEVER go up against big guys like Randy Moss - that's for Carlos to handle. We got Hall to cover the DeSean Jacksons and Steve Smiths and Chad Ochocincos of the league. Then last night happened. Not only can Hall definitely not cover the good Steve Smith, but apparently he can't even cover the bad one. I wanted to defend Hall, but I couldn't. He showed no flashes of ability or talent. The pick should be credited to Landry. Luckily, the uncapped year is coming, so he doesn't have us over a barrel. Unless he makes dramatic improvements, he'll be cut immediately upon expiration of the current CBA. I'm glad Hall put the blame on himself, but it's time to put up or shut up regardless of who's at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfanjm30 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Of course Big Al was worth the money. I could see him dominating the whole game. I just get mad because this whole season the media is going to be all over Haynesworth saying "I didn't see him make a play" when that's not the case. The fact that the giants ran away from him the whole game shows his worth. Anytime you can force a team to alter what they want to do just for one player that to me demonstrates a players value. But if our defense fails to capitalize, Haynesworth will be criticized as being a "disappointment." For example, Matt Mosley says he didn't see Al make a play or have an impact but yet he credits London Fletcher for being outstanding and credits the Redskins Defense for making a goaline stop. Mosley fails to acknowledge the fact that maybe Hanyesworth's impact has made it easier for London Fletcher to make more plays....Also he didn't seem to see that Haynesworth was the player who made the tackle at the goaline.....I just have a feeling that whenever the Defense fails to look impressive its going to be linked to Haynesworth not doing his job, which is just stupid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateOffSeason Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'm very conflicted on this. I like when we play smart, but I don't have a problem with Santana smacking someone around Hines Ward style. Santana is a tiny guy, and I think he was trying to make a statement that he'll fight as hard as anyone else. In game 1, we can use it for our benefit for the rest of the season. If it keeps happening, then it's a problem. If his production doesn't match his attitude, then it's a problem. Right now, no problem. That fight was the only sign of life I got yesterday from Moss. I think it is a problem. The option play that El lost 11 yards on, the replay from the endzone camera was horrible for Moss. He was covered and he just quit on the play. No fight, no trying to get open, he saw he was covered and just quit. Kind of like that terrible over the line of scrimmage from Campbell...Moss was passive and got ***** slapped as the defender out hustled him and took the ball. How many other plays did Moss give up on over the course of the game that were off camera? I would say it is a huge problem, and most likely a complete attitude problem. Hell, he just got shut down completely by the worst DB's in the NFC East. No excuse for any kind of attitude, or for that terrible showing on the field. For all the crap we give Campbell, another ongoing discussion is that our receivers never get any separation. Is it because they quit on plays? If it is, we have a huge problem because our best receiver, who should be showing the young guys how it's done, is the biggest culprit of quitting. I could be completely wrong here, I don't have the ability to go to games and see what happens out of the camera's eye, but I have a suspicion I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan4life83 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Too bad for every "hit" the FO has an equally large "miss" - Deangelo Hall. give him more than one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommishDC Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I was at the game up close and watched Haynesworth very closely. He is FAT -SLOW and OUT OF SHAPE and no spark on the sidelines..he sat ny himself..he spit after each play! Too see you people defend him is a joke. DeAngelo Hall is another joke......NO MORE EXCUSES REDSKINS (AND FANS) . GOOD TEAMS WIN THE BIG ONES...THE REDSKINS WERE SCHOOLED ON SUNDAY!!! ANOTHER LOSS TO A DIVISION RIVAL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpop Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Haynesworth who got a little winded from time to time was still a beast, he made Eli beat us with his arm and he did just that with quite a bit of help from our DB's. I expected Rogers to have a bad game not Hall, Smoot will make one play and give up two. Got to have better play from the secondary as a whole from tackling to covering they got to pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan4life83 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Haha. I can't believe people are defending Hall. That might've been the worst game from a starting DB that I've ever seen. Even on his pick he was beat. Landry (who also sucked) made that happen. D Hall just got lucky to be four steps behind the receiver to catch the deflection.Definitely happy with Haynesworth though. The only problem with Landry was him trying for the big hit too much, other than that he played great, and i support Hall, think he will bounce back well next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Haynesworth was fine yesterday. Didn't help that the Giants beat the Redskins in TOP by something like 12 or 13 minutes, so the defense was on the field for most of the game. Giants have arguably the best all around o-line in the league and they had a smart game plan to deflect Haynesworth around the plays they were trying to run. Titans did the same thing to Casey Hampton last Thursday night. Just good coaching and scheming, can't blame that. Hall on the other hand- people expecting any different than how he's been his entire career just missed the boat. Yeah, he played a few good games last year when he knew he was going to get a new contract. Welcome to Me-Angelo Hall. Get picked on for half the game and maybe come up with an interception so he can talk about going to the Pro Bowl. Meanwhile people are talking about letting Carlos Rogers, our own outstanding 1st round draft pick, walk out the door rather than pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTotalPackage Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 i didnt think haynesworth was that dominant. i saw him blocked one on one quite a few times. but i do think his presence was felt in that the giants did not score much more than they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 3-1-WAS 11 (8:30) 44-A.Bradshaw right tackle to WAS 11 for no gain (30-L.Landry, 59-L.Fletcher). 3-1-WAS 3 (:04) 27-B.Jacobs left tackle to WAS 3 for no gain (59-L.Fletcher, 23-D.Hall). 4-1-WAS 3 (15:00) 27-B.Jacobs up the middle to WAS 3 for no gain (92-A.Haynesworth, 48-C.Horton). WAS-92-A.Haynesworth was injured during the play. 3-1-NYG 28 (8:16) (Shotgun) 27-B.Jacobs up the middle to NYG 23 for -5 yards (48-C.Horton). Against the probably the best run blocking unit in the league, with maybe the biggest RB in the league running behind it. Pretty amazing. I know our defense didn't play as well as we expected, but I don't think a defense in this league can do this to the NY Giants. We were weak on the edges with the large cushion our CB's were giving. If we can fix that the no team will be able to run against us period. Fletcher was everywhere, making plays in the backfield and in the middle of the field. Carter was disruptive at times. Albert is makes everyone around him better. Very pleased with his first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I loved the one play where he gobbled up Bradshaw and tore his helmet off. I think he will only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSunday Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Of course Big Al was worth the money. I could see him dominating the whole game. QUOTE]LOL............you haven't seen many football games then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 All the money we threw at D Hall should have gone to Rogers. If we wanna pay a corner to get burned on every play, we can have J. Tryon do it while getting paid 100 times less than Burnt Toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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