PROSCOUT Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 joe montana??? really come on bro. The Broncos wanted Quinn and Orton over JC. Kyle frickin Orton bro. All the picks we gave up to get Campbell and we at best could get a third round pick back. Repeat after me(slowly): "think outside the box....the past does not equal the present" So according to you, if another team wants a quarterback, then that quarterback automatically becomes BETTER than Jason Campbell. THAT'S what you have said. Now, doesn't it sound as stupid to you as it does to me. I really could not care less if Denver chooses Matt Millen over Jason Campbell. I don't care if Chicago chooses Brad Pitt over Jason Campbell. What relevance does that have to someones actual ability? So the Vikings have not offered to trade for Jason Campbell. That means they think Tavaris Jackson is a better QB than Jason Campbell. According to you thats EXACTLY what it means. And I still don't understand how you got inside of the Redskins meeting room. How did yu find out that someone offered a 3rd round pick for Jason Campbell? THAT is the all time most rediculous rumor that has been spread lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Repeat after me(slowly): "think outside the box....the past does not equal the present"So according to you, if another team wants a quarterback, then that quarterback automatically becomes BETTER than Jason Campbell. THAT'S what you have said. Now, doesn't it sound as stupid to you as it does to me. I really could not care less if Denver chooses Matt Millen over Jason Campbell. I don't care if Chicago chooses Brad Pitt over Jason Campbell. What relevance does that have to someones actual ability? So the Vikings have not offered to trade for Jason Campbell. That means they think Tavaris Jackson is a better QB than Jason Campbell. According to you thats EXACTLY what it means. And I still don't understand how you got inside of the Redskins meeting room. How did yu find out that someone offered a 3rd round pick for Jason Campbell? THAT is the all time most rediculous rumor that has been spread lately. id assume that a coach would want the best available quarterback for their team if theyre gonna lose their QB (cutler). campbell was available. so was kyle orton. and the broncos took kyle orton because they thought he was better. you can smoke and mirror that all you want with a bunch of subjective questions, but denver wanted the best QB they could snag, and they didnt think campbell was good. neither does our front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Dumbest thread ever The dude needs a NNT....:doh: What a ****ing trainwreck. I already pointed out that PROSCOUT is a Campbell skeptic and this is an attempt at satire. He needs a lesson in satire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Joe Montana won a superbowl in his third season. That was during Gibbs first year. Jason Campbell hasn't even lead this team to the playoffs. 2007 was on Todd Collins. If Jason hadn't gotten injured, odds are he wouldn't have lead this team to the playoffs. This team would've completely tanked after the Taylor tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_K Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 So....SO....and your point is? The point is .. when you WIN few care how it happened .. when you lose everyone has a suggestion. So that is our point, or mine anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 id assume that a coach would want the best available quarterback for their team if theyre gonna lose their QB (cutler).campbell was available. so was kyle orton. and the broncos took kyle orton because they thought he was better. you can smoke and mirror that all you want with a bunch of subjective questions, but denver wanted the best QB they could snag, and they didnt think campbell was good. neither does our front office. and so some man's opinion who is sleeping in Denver tonight, that makes it so? Some guy in Denver says Orton is better than Campbell? That makes it true? Are you pulling my goober or just high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Repeat after me(slowly): "think outside the box....the past does not equal the present"So according to you, if another team wants a quarterback, then that quarterback automatically becomes BETTER than Jason Campbell. THAT'S what you have said. Now, doesn't it sound as stupid to you as it does to me. I really could not care less if Denver chooses Matt Millen over Jason Campbell. I don't care if Chicago chooses Brad Pitt over Jason Campbell. What relevance does that have to someones actual ability? So the Vikings have not offered to trade for Jason Campbell. That means they think Tavaris Jackson is a better QB than Jason Campbell. According to you thats EXACTLY what it means. And I still don't understand how you got inside of the Redskins meeting room. How did yu find out that someone offered a 3rd round pick for Jason Campbell? THAT is the all time most rediculous rumor that has been spread lately. Actually proscout that isnt what i said at all. In this situation you have Campbell going into year 5 and is suppose to be our " Franchise " QB. In Orton you have a guy that is going into his 4th year with three less starts and has had to battle in camp every year. Orton was a stop gap till they could grab someone else. In Brady Quinn we have no idea really going into his third season. There all at the same stage in there career in that they havnt done anything of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 and so some man's opinion who is sleeping in Denver tonight, that makes it so? Some guy in Denver says Orton is better than Campbell? That makes it true? Are you pulling my goober or just high? Tomorrow, I'm going to post on a few other fans' message boards that I frequent, and ask the same question: Campbell vs. Orton. I'll get some unbaised responses and let you know. here's a tip: If you think campbell is much, much better than orton, you are sorely mistaken. In the eyes of the outside, non-redskin world, they are a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Someone should rename this thread to delusional. PROSCOUT, you must fly rocket ships cause it sounds like your about to take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haileysbadoldad Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is he turning into who? Kill yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Good stuff. He's developing more like a Ryan Leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Really? Really? Why would you downgrade Montana like that? Montana is famous because of his late game heroics. If he was down you know he had the confidence and ability to come back and win it. I mean, REALLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Someone told me i was crazy for comparing JC to Flacco and Matt Ryan. This is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Zombie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 OP, are you straight up smoking crack? This bum Campbell couldnt carry the dirty sweat socks of the guy who couldnt carry Joe Montana's jock... Dear god in heaven no wonder the rest of the NFL laughs at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haynesworth_Mancrush Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Comparing Jason Campbell to Joe Montana is ASININE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 man... PROSCOUT you cant make a thread like this without expecting serious hate. that said.... some of it is a valid point. managing a game is an extremely important attribute to have in your field general. JC not throwing many picks is very important. but at the same time, i wish he'd take a couple more calculated risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklynskinsfan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Jason has some growing pains yet, but he is not interception prone and is conservative with the football. This is a very good trait that doesn't show up well in stats except his LACK of interceptions.Joe Montana threw 31 TD passes in one year, but for the other 15 seasons, he averaged only 16 TD and 8 ints per year. He really only had ONE tremendous SEASON. He is considered the GREATEST because he "managed" the game. That seems to have become a dirty word for some around here. They say that all Campbell can do is "manage" the game. So....SO....and your point is? Isn't that what a QB does? Manages the game and gives the team a chance to win. Puts people in the right spot to make a play. Keeps his team in the game until something good happens. That sounds like our QB. Jason Campbell manages the game, keeps himself from losing the game, doesn't throw the interception and doesn't mind if others get all the attention. When surrounded by more playmakers, Jason might just be JOE MONTANA. Here is a comparison of Joe Montana's 5th year and Jasons 4th year. G com Att per yds per TD int Joe 16 332 515 64.5 3,910 7.6 26 12 7.6 -- - Jason 16 315 506 62.3 3,245 6.4 13 6 So perhaps Montana's 5th year above is what we can look forward to. Interesting to note that in Joe Montana's FOURTH year, which is Jason's above year....Montana threw 17 TD passes and 11 interceptions. Jason threw 13 TD and only 6 ints. And Jason never had Jerry Rice! awesome post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleskins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 OP, are you straight up smoking crack?This bum Campbell couldnt carry the dirty sweat socks of the guy who couldnt carry Joe Montana's jock... Dear god in heaven no wonder the rest of the NFL laughs at us. was he a bum when he beat New Orleans or tourched Dallas in Texas. Or was he a bum when teams like Detroit's and Cincinati's D-line was kisking his a** like thay were the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celts32 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 You can't compare stats across generations. This is a passing league now. You can probably put his stats up against Terry Bradshaw also...it doesn't mean anything. And like others have mentioned Joe Montana became the best based on his playoff performances...there are many other QB's that have had better regular season stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dah-Dee Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 man... PROSCOUT you cant make a thread like this without expecting serious hate. Okay, I have two young children who like to watch "iCarly" on Nickelodeon, so unfortunately for me the first thing that came to mind when I saw this post was a scene where Carly addresses a statement made by another character: "Freddy, you just can't go around using words like hullabaloo and expect people not to hit you!" I, uh... that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Different era, different game. They didn't pass as much in the 80's. I was there. I witnessed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Interesting how the term "game manager" has been transformed over the years. Part of the job of being the QB is to do just that. What differentiates the average QB and the elite QB's is how well they do that AND the other things they have to do. Joe did them all about as well as any QB I've ever seen play. I watched Bart Star,Fran Tarkenton, Len Dawson,Roger Staubauch, and many others but this guy,was amazing in just about every aspect of the game. He could launch a long ball with as much finesse as he did with the shorter passes. Deliver a rifle shot of a pass in between coverage that you would swear had the receiver covered. He seemed so fast in his ability to drop back,read,and let go of the pass to the open receiver. His teammates stated then,and still do now if you ask one of them about Joe,that he was as cool as they get in the huddle when things were stacked against them. If Jason Campbell turns out to be even a bit more than half the QB that Joe was,(and many QB's wish they could be),then I'm a happy Redskins fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Better offer him an extension... TONIGHT! Echo your sentiments. And, when you wake up tomorrow you will see a few more Lombardi trophies in the Redskins Lobby :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modazfuk Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Too bad the OP wasn't on the phone presenting his case to the Broncos and Browns. Who knows, things may have turned out differently (shrug). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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