TheGoodBits Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Bear with me for a sec before you bash the post... Think about this: apparently we are going to pick up Albert Haynesworth, according to the reports out today. We are also reportedly very interested in Brian Orakpo in the first round. Now both of these guys, especially Haynesworth, can be pretty effective in a 4-3 defense. But they are also VERY well suited to a 3-4 as well. Haynesworth as a 3-4 NT, and Orakpo as a linebacker. So when I was thinking about these two possibly being Redskins, I got to thinking that perhaps Snyder isn't so sure about Jim Zorn as HC. Maybe he is bringing these guys in with the knowledge that if Zorn fails this year he has Cowher waiting to come in. Think of it as an insurance policy. I'm not saying that I think Snyder will definitely bring in Cowher or fire Zorn, I'm just thinking that maybe part of his thinking is that IF Zorn doesn't work he will already have the pieces in place for Cowher to run his defense. Thoughts on this? Mindlessly bash if you want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 last years draft was for Mike Martz's offense :gus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweisk1 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think they are building a team for 2014 for Bill Belichick...I heard this from a very relaible source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxford Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 From what I hear Cowher would never in a million years work for Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin80 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 So how are the Skins getting Orakpo, trading up? He wont be there at 13 especially after his combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljeasel Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think they are building a team for 2014 for Bill Belichick...I heard this from a very relaible source... You talked to JLC too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Every big named free agent is always linked to the Skins, this time of year. There are several teams in the running for Haynesworth. And no, I don't think the Skins are in any position for the 3-4 defense. Cowher isn't coming here. The Skins don't need anymore coaching changes, which has been the #1 problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 From what I hear Cowher would never in a million years work for Snyder No for 10 mill a year he would work for Snyder. He won't however work under Vinny just like every coach that laughed at Snyder in the infamous 08 coaching search, well except for Fassell :doh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 So how are the Skins getting Orakpo, trading up? He wont be there at 13 especially after his combine. He still might. Tiny Speed Rushers are a dwindling ideal. It used to be speed rushers and big WRs were the "in" draft choice. Now its Big OL, Strong QBs (although that'll always be in), and Speedy RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 zorn held on to his job last year because of one victory and another coach wasnt interested in the job at the time. zorn is on borrowed time so if he doesnt show tons of improvement hes out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 With the signing of Haynesworthless about to happen, I am on the official bandwagon of not supporting Vinnius Cerratus (Props to Bang) any longer. Don't be surprised if Zorn is gone after next year and Rich Kotite is hired. Maybe Jack Pardee - after all, he was a Redskin. Note to mike florio... Take your "Redskins are racist" rants elsewhere. No one in this forum or in the organization should ever, ever send him any scoop or info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21DIEHARDSKINSFAN21 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 if that was the deal dont you think we would of hired a 3-4 def coordinator to get our team READY to switch to it? dont forget MW in 04 was a linebacker and set at DE at times too. brian orakpo would be the same role. just because we goin for haynesowrth doesnt mean that we are switchin. considering haynesworth plays 4-3, orakpo played both, and uor team is a 4-3. i dontn see it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 How it's about this explanation: he's addressing a one NEED that's been neglected for a while and showed itself big time this year and another more recent need due to the departure of Marcus Washington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Khan Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You forgot about the 300lb defense end the redskins are reportedly interested in Chris Canty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 This isn't as ridiculous a thread as some going on right now around here. That being said, even if Danny did have Cowher in mind, I don't see him or Cerrato as having the foresight to put personnel in place for a possible switch a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0mega Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Haynesworth has expressed disinterest in playing in the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 zorn held on to his job last year because of one victory and another coach wasnt interested in the job at the time. zorn is on borrowed time so if he doesnt show tons of improvement hes out of here. How do you figure Zorn is on borrowed time? He has to build a foundation. No way was he going to do it in 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu7ch Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Why in the world would you take a high priced, pass rushing DT and make him a space eater? Wow. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Won't happen for many reasons but here is the biggest: Andre Carter. He cannot play OLB and is way too small to be a 3-4 DE. Couple that with the fact that he is on the books for several more years and that suggests the 4-3 will be here for awhile. Also Blache is the antithesis of a 3-4 defensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 Won't happen for many reasons but here is the biggest: Andre Carter. He cannot play OLB and is way too small to be a 3-4 DE. Couple that with the fact that he is on the books for several more years and that suggests the 4-3 will be here for awhile.Also Blache is the antithesis of a 3-4 defensive coordinator. Yeah that is a good point. My only thinking is that this might BEGIN to put some pieces in place if Cowher decided he wanted to coach in DC. We definitely would still need to pick up some other players first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why in the world would you take a high priced, pass rushing DT and make him a space eater? Wow. :doh: I was thinking he would be a Shawn Rodgers type NT... Would Haynesworth not be well suited to that role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yeah that is a good point. My only thinking is that this might BEGIN to put some pieces in place if Cowher decided he wanted to coach in DC. We definitely would still need to pick up some other players first. There are alot of IF's needed for this to come to fruition, mainly Cowher being a HC in DC (which I see happening the same day that the Skins are owned by Jerry Jones). I personally wouldn't mind the Skins evolving to a 3-4, as I believe that is more the defense of the next decade, but first Blache has to retire/be replaced before we start even adding pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 As many have said the 3-4 is not going to happen. Three main reasons - first we are allegedly paying top dollar for a 1 gap DT whoes strength is penetrating and making plays behind the line of scrimmage. He is a prototype 1 gap 4-3 DT. Be a complete waste of his talent and the money to then line him up over the nose and ask him to occupy two blockers. Secondly we dont have the big DE's you need to play in the 3-4. Finally we are struggling to find 3 starting calibre linebackers never mind 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagletooth Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why in the world would you take a high priced, pass rushing DT and make him a space eater? Wow. :doh: Exactly why it doesn't make sense. Canty on the other hand would be a versitle guy who we could use if we did want to switch in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 No for 10 mill a year he would work for Snyder. He won't however work under Vinny just like every coach that laughed at Snyder in the infamous 08 coaching search, well except for Fassell :doh:. Care to actually post links for this??? People turning down the job because of Vinny, though many on this board would understand, has NEVER been mentioned, so it would be nice to see where you get your inside information from. Unless, of course, if it is coming out of your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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