maskedsuperstar Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I just think that the speed DE's should play more. Wilson and Buzbee have the speed to get to the QB. I don't know if the Skins should use the 1st pick on a DE, like Mel Kiper has the Skins doing. I also think that Blache needs to change his scheme. Stopping the run is important, but the DL should be able to after the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins-in-CT Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Evans played better than Taylor and arguably better than Carter, why would he not be back:doh: You are banking on the fact that he doesn't sign elsewhere. If someone else out there likes what they see and offers him a better opportunity he won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 LOL. Jackson could and should have been on the practice squad. Don't you remember that Vinny didn't want any of his draft picks NOT making the roster????Evans needs to come back. Are you guys watching the same team I am? I'm not against Evans coming back, but it really depends on what kind of a contract he's talking. I'll admit that he played well this year, but I don't doubt we can get his production from other players on the roster. Plus he's getting up there in age for a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer5500 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 What moves would you guys make at the defensive line position? I would: 1. Re-sign Evans 2. Offer low/medium tenders to Golston and Montgomery 3. Release Jason Taylor. 4. Add Rob Jackson to the practice squad On 1st and 2nd down: Evans-Montgomery-Griffin-Daniels On 3rd down: Carter-Golston-Evans-Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am going to be cold and honest here. I think the Redskins need to clear out the DE spot on this roster and start over. I would not bring back any of the current DEs on the roster except for Demetric Evans, who at 29 and able to play all four DL spots is a valuable reserve and spot starter who comes at a decent price. Phillip Daniels needs to go. Jason Taylor needs to go. Andre Carter needs to go. Chris Wilson needs to go if Blache isn't going to use him as a situational pass rush specialist and relegate him to special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Buzbee is smaller than Jackson, not sure how much that will help our DL. I think many of the numbers out there are wrong regarding his size. He's actually a bit bigger than Rob. Alex goes 6'3" 265lbs. I've paid attention to him from the start and thought he played well in his first preseason. He's smart (Georgetown) and plays hard. I think he has a future if he can fully recover. He will have to earn it, but I'm rooting for him. If we can solidify the middle better, I really think Evans,Carter,Rob and Alex could work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is a bit of a sobering thread, Everyone wants us to address OL, DT, LB & yet we are mulling over a bunch of DE's including Wilson, Jackson, Buzbee, Evans. That ain't alot of proven talent behind Carter, if Taylor is cut. Anyone else think that Taylor may be reprieved as versitile DE/OLB cover in view of our other roster short-comings, irrespective of the price tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I like Carter, but not for the money he is making. However, I would be willing to be he would be putting up sacks in the "teens" if we had solid inside pressure and a good book end for him, nothing flashy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am going to be cold and honest here.I think the Redskins need to clear out the DE spot on this roster and start over. I would not bring back any of the current DEs on the roster except for Demetric Evans, who at 29 and able to play all four DL spots is a valuable reserve and spot starter who comes at a decent price. Phillip Daniels needs to go. Jason Taylor needs to go. Andre Carter needs to go. Chris Wilson needs to go if Blache isn't going to use him as a situational pass rush specialist and relegate him to special teams. Why does Carter need to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsAllDay34 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I saw Buzbee alot in college. My cousin played with him at Georgetown, and actually is friends with him still now, and i went to a lot of the home games. He was great at G-town a DI-AA school and he is pretty quick and fast for someone his size. I was hoping he would make the team this year and get his chance but he got injured on the 1st day. I think he will have a good shot next year. I am hoping we either cut taylor or have him take a drastic pay cut (vet minimum plus incentives). I prefer the latter because this is his last year most likely and i think he might take a pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I wonder how lasting of an impact this injury will have on Buzbee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NawtyMagazine Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 who cares, he sucks, how did he get hurt being on the bench? j taylor and carter will still be starting next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am going to be cold and honest here.I think the Redskins need to clear out the DE spot on this roster and start over. That isn't cold and honest. That's knee-jerk and reactionary. The question is, who would you replace those guys with? Are you going to be able to find 4-5 guys (since you need rotational guys as well as starters) who are going to be as good as the guys we have? You probably aren't. Sometimes I wish people would actually think about what they write before they commit it to a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Buzbee isn't going to be anything, we should cut him, saving $460,000 and use it elsewhere. You could use that towards re-signing Demetric Evans probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is a bit of a sobering thread' date='Everyone wants us to address OL, DT, LB & yet we are mulling over a bunch of DE's including Wilson, Jackson, Buzbee, Evans. That ain't alot of proven talent behind Carter, if Taylor is cut. Anyone else think that Taylor may be reprieved as versitile DE/OLB cover in view of our other roster short-comings, irrespective of the price tag?[/quote'] Pick any d-linemen you want and I'll bet you we won't generate more than 30 sacks from the d-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Buzbee isn't going to be anything, we should cut him, saving $460,000 and use it elsewhere. You could use that towards re-signing Demetric Evans probably. Demetric Evans? Now theres a pro bowler!:doh: Evans will be 30 before the season starts. The Skins need to go the younger route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Demetric Evans? Now theres a pro bowler!:doh: Evans will be 30 before the season starts. The Skins need to go the younger route. So who would you suggest? You act as if anyone else on the roster would do better:doh: Evans was our most productive DE last year and won't cost much to retain. The interior DL must be addressed this year and we can focus on DE in next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Demetric Evans? Now theres a pro bowler!:doh: Evans will be 30 before the season starts. The Skins need to go the younger route. And Alex Buzbee will be a pro bowler? or someone you can sign for $460,000 in this free agent market will be a pro bowler? You gotta have someone with some kind of versatility on that line. Evans can play DE and DT on passing downs. It probably won't be Phillip Daniels. Evans would be cheap to sign and is his character is straight quality. He knows the system and with only 4 draft picks, you have to address the defensive line situation in more than one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Pick any d-linemen you want and I'll bet you we won't generate more than 30 sacks from the d-line. If Blache changed his scheme, allowed the DL to go after the QB, we would see more sacks. Its on Blache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is a bit of a sobering thread' date='Everyone wants us to address OL, DT, LB & yet we are mulling over a bunch of DE's including Wilson, Jackson, Buzbee, Evans. That ain't alot of proven talent behind Carter, if Taylor is cut. [/quote'] Maybe you are right, but you have to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 If Blache changed his scheme, allowed the DL to go after the QB, we would see more sacks. Its on Blache. So what exactly does he tell the DL, don't go after the QB? When its an obvious passing down, they can't play the run my friend. Maybe he wants them to play the run first, but the other half is playing the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 And Alex Buzbee will be a pro bowler? or someone you can sign for $460,000 in this free agent market will be a pro bowler? Did I say that Buzbee would be a pro bowler? The Skins like him, as well as other teams. KC tried to sign him off the practice squad. You gotta have someone with some kind of versatility on that line. Evans can play DE and DT on passing downs. It probably won't be Phillip Daniels. Evans would be cheap to sign and is his character is straight quality. I would much rather see the Skins draft a player like Mitch King, who can play both DT/DE. Evans will be 30. Everyone wants to go younger. Why resign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Did I say that Buzbee would be a pro bowler? The Skins like him, as well as other teams. KC tried to sign him off the practice squad.I would much rather see the Skins draft a player like Mitch King, who can play both DT/DE. Evans will be 30. Everyone wants to go younger. Why resign him? Other teams liked Marcus Mason as well, what contribution did he make last year? Why re-sign Evans? Because Taylor and Daniels have to go. 30 is old for running backs, not necessarily for DEs. Taylor was productive until a couple years ago and he's going to be what, 34? Daniels played well for us in the role he was asked until he tore his ACL last year and he's 36. Those two are done in my opinion, but they need to go more so because of their cap figures. We can save $10+ million on getting rid of those two. Just because Evans WILL BE 30 doesn't mean he can't contribute. You can sign him to a 3/4 year deal and cut him after 2/3. If you get rid of Taylor and Daniels, you will be going with Andre Carter and Chris Wilson as your starters for next year before free agency and the draft. Our offensive line and DT are bigger priorities for us in the draft than DE and there's no DE we can afford in free agency that will make a big impact. Terrell Suggs will cost too much and Julius Peppers said he wants to go to a 3-4 scheme. Outside of that who can we get in free agency? If we don't go DE in the 1st round of the draft, then what are we going to do? We only have 4 picks. Are you going to rely on a 3rd round pick to start for us next year? A 5th rounder? A 6th rounder? Do we want to go Carter, Wilson, Jackson, Buzbee and (insert draft pick) as our unit for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 So what exactly does he tell the DL, don't go after the QB?. No, I'm not saying. Blache wants the DL to take their assigned gap. If they get to the QB, great. When its an obvious passing down, they can't play the run my friend. Maybe he wants them to play the run first, but the other half is playing the pass. I understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 we need to stop fantasizing over undrafted FA guys who look cute in the preseason for our DL. we need to add real talent to this dline and it starts with the draft. every offseason we get excited over guys who played at D8 schools that we picked up at mcdonalds who got one sack and everyone thinks theyre the next bruce smith. we need real pro level talent at the DE/DT positions. currently, we have mediocre dudes at all the spots. the only guy i think pulls his weight is a montgomry and only on running downs. dude is a legit run stopping DT. aside from him, everyone else is second rate or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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