Redskins Diehard Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama, who campaigned on lessening lobbyist influence in government, has chosen a defense expert who is currently a vice president and lobbyist for one of the country's biggest defense contractors to be his deputy secretary of defense. Obama's transition office announced that William Lynn, an undersecretary of defense in President Bill Clinton's second term, has been nominated as Defense Secretary Robert Gates' deputy. Lynn is currently a senior vice president at Raytheon, which has billions of dollars in Defense Department contracts and is the maker of the Army's Patriot Missile system and the Tomahawk missile used by the Navy. The company is also developing a global positioning satellite communication system with the Air Force. As deputy secretary, Lynn would be involved in the process of budgeting and acquisitions, in addition to running the day-to-day operations of the Defense Department. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/08/defense.appointments/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From a "Can't afford more of the same" commercial..... "John McCain's chief adviser lobbies for oil companies, even from Russia and China. His campaign manager lobbies for corporations outsourcing American jobs. The campaign chairman he picked last year -- a bank lobbyist. If seven of McCain's top advisers are lobbyists, who do you think will run his White House? John McCain. We just can't afford more of the same." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/obama-ad-calls-out-mccain_n_125995.html ------------------------------------------------------------- "His Undersecretary of Defense -- a defense lobbyist" Not only did he select Lynn for an Undersecretary position...Undersecretary for Acquisition!!!:applause::applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Quick, someone come in and say: But, {insert excuse here} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 But...at least he is qualified:2cents: Hey you didn't actually believe the words coming out of his mouth did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Quick,someone come in and say: But, {insert excuse here} But, {it's not like this is Secretary of State or something, he's got the support of both Repub's and Dem's, and is highly qualified for the position, so he shouldn't be disqualified automatically.} How was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Sarge.. where art thou? Fine, I'll do it myself... CHANGE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Obama has basically just rehired 90% of the Clinton era minions. Man is that all the Dems have? Retread Clintonistas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Sarge.. where art thou?Fine, I'll do it myself... KLINTON :)CHANGE!!!!!!! Followed by a page about Klinton's cuts to the military and his general unworthiness to breathe our air. I miss Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 But, {it's not like this is Secretary of State or something, he's got the support of both Repub's and Dem's, and is highly qualified for the position, so he shouldn't be disqualified automatically.}How was that? C+ at best:). 1) A stronger argument could certainly be made by not referencing "Secretary of State" and "highly qualified" in the same statement 2) I think we were looking for "pragmatic" somewhere in the perfect "yeah, but...." ---------------- Honestly this isn't a thread about an "unqualified Undersecretary for aquisitions" it is about "more of the same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Obama has basically just rehired 90% of the Clinton era minions. Man is that all the Dems have? Retread Clintonistas? Looks like it. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Maybe you guys would be happier with some unknown like uh, Jim Zorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Monk Fan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 He's a politician, none of this surprises me from him. What surprised me was how willing the majority of Americans were to believe differently of him. I keep reminding my Obamaniac friends that he's just a politician -- folks need to stop confusing him with Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Is C+ as good as the Obamacons have today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 well at least he's had a job before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Quick,someone come in and say: But, {insert excuse here} ...the first thing I thought of went in the other direction... "...and so it continues..." but u b rite 2, T <---- practicing for when I send my FIRST text ever ...slowly but Shirely, the partisanship over-bias inhibiting the making of objective even-handed assessments, has been awakening from it's post-election slumber, and is warm-n-comfy in it's cave...:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 ...the first thing I thought of went in the other direction..."...and so it continues..." but u b rite 2, T <---- practicing for when I send my FIRST text ever ...slowly but Shirely, the partisanship over-bias inhibiting the making of objective even-handed assessments, has been awakening from it's post-election slumber, and is warm-n-comfy in it's cave...:cool: The first text seems to make more sense then the last paragraph...but yeah it would be nice to see an even-handed assessments from the Obamaniacs.(By the way, I support leaving Gates, the Blair pick, the Brennan pick, and am withholding judgement on the Panetta decision until we see what Kappes does) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 he's got the support of both Repub's and Dem's I'm sure he does. He's a lobbyist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The first text seems to make more sense then the last paragraph...but yeah it would be nice to see an even-handed assessments from the Obamaniacs.(By the way, I support leaving Gates, the Blair pick, the Brennan pick, and am withholding judgement on the Panetta decision until we see what Kappes does) Wait, Obama picked Colt Brennan!?!?! He IS the Messiah after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The first text seems to make more sense then the last paragraph...but yeah it would be nice to see an even-handed assessments from the Obamaniacs.(By the way, I support leaving Gates, the Blair pick, the Brennan pick, and am withholding judgment on the Panetta decision until we see what Kappes does) Expecting objectivity from someone who would legitimately be considered a "maniac for Obama" would seem a fools errand. The also-fun paragraph, that you suggest was elusive in understanding, was made in support of Thiebear and his frequent non-partisan approach.:applause: I was noting, as the words I wrote state, the limiting aspects strong partisanship often brings to any competent evaluation of such matters, with neither a right or left fixation singled out. :cool: I agree with you point for point on the picks so you mentioned far. I think Obama has had a range of good to very questionable. I remain open-minded since people haven't even begun their job, and the challenges ahead would daunt even the most exceptional folk. BTW, to me, and not aimed at you, reading terms like "Obamamaniac, usually prompt me to wonder how many of the people who embrace that term were likely Palin-worshipers of the same intellectual stripe, just for the other side. I sat that because it was particular form of hypocrisy I saw frequently on display during the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html President Obama: "The executive order on ethics I will sign shortly represents a clean break from business as usual. As of today, lobbyists will be subject to stricter limits than under any other administration in history. If you are a lobbyist entering my administration, you will not be able to work on matters you lobbied on, or in the agencies you lobbied during the previous two years. When you leave government, you will not be able to lobby my administration for as long as I am president." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmmm, I wonder how his new rule pertains to Mr. Lynn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.htmlPresident Obama: "The executive order on ethics I will sign shortly represents a clean break from business as usual. As of today, lobbyists will be subject to stricter limits than under any other administration in history. If you are a lobbyist entering my administration, you will not be able to work on matters you lobbied on, or in the agencies you lobbied during the previous two years. When you leave government, you will not be able to lobby my administration for as long as I am president." The minute he said that, I wondered how long it would take for a lobbyist to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yup....that change he was talking about.......it was his people for Bush's people. This presedency is going to interesting...:munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 The minute he said that, I wondered how long it would take for a lobbyist to be found. Actually the lobbyist was "found" 10 days before he took the oath. Maybe he wanted to get all his lobbyists in before he passed a rule that they couldn't work for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 as stated previously: President Obama: "The executive order on ethics I will sign shortly represents a clean break from business as usual. As of today, lobbyists will be subject to stricter limits than under any other administration in history. If you are a lobbyist entering my administration, you will not be able to work on matters you lobbied on (President-elect Barack Obama, who campaigned on lessening lobbyist influence in government, has chosen a defense expert who is currently a vice president and lobbyist for one of the country's biggest defense contractors to be his deputy secretary of defense.,))) or in the agencies you lobbied during the previous two years. When you leave government, you will not be able to lobby my administration for as long as I am president." PLEASE follow your OWN RULES.. for goodness sakes.. I can understand not following a rule someone else made to the letter. BUT YOUR OWN? *Fail* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 as stated previously:PLEASE follow your OWN RULES.. for goodness sakes.. I can understand not following a rule someone else made to the letter. BUT YOUR OWN? *Fail* I guess the argument could be made that the Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisitions won't be working on acquiring defense systems;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is bull**** Obama ought to retract his nomination. A lobbyist for Raytheon, being in charge of acquisitions? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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