Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 hopefully this doesnt get smashed together with all the other campbell threads cause ive never seen all these numbers, but check some of them out. 2002: 94/149 - 1215 yards - 63.1 comp pct. - 11 TDs - 5 Ints 2003: 181/293 - 2267 yards - 61.8 comp pct. - 10 TDs - 8 Ints 2004: 188/270 - 2700 yards - 69.6 comp pct. - 20 TDs - 7 Ints 2005: rookie year, no stats 2006: 110/207 - 1297 yards - 53.1 comp pct. - 10 TDs - 6 Ints 2007: 250/417 - 2700 yards - 60.0 comp pct. - 12 TDs - 11 Ints 2008: 315/506 - 3245 yards - 62.3 comp pct. - 13 TDs - 6 Ints Aside from his big year in college, he cant throw TD passes. no matter how many games he plays or how many passes he throws, he cannot throw TD passes. his INTs are always low because he plays very conservatively, and this is why he will never be the answer for us. to be a play maker in this league you have to be willing to make something happen, which campbell cannot/will not. im interested on peoples take on his college vs nfl stats. do they matter? is it eerie that they are similar? does anything seem like its gonna change no matter what system he gets stuck in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydogg3eb Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, lets be a "gunslinger" like Tony Romo sits to pee and try to "make things happen" out of nothing. We see how well he does in big games. :rolls eyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Colt, grab your helmet. It's time to rock n roll son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 interesting stats. Its always nice to see opinions based on something we can all agree upon. But the question becomes, what was different about that one year in college? and can we do similar things here? We know that he was in the WCO that year, so maybe he can be productive in this offense. I'm just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCoSkins Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Kind of Telling??? Seems like a reach to me. HIs college stats show progressive improvement as do his pro numbers. I'm not completely sold on JC yet either but this is another example of people using numbers to make their case when the numbers don't really tell the same story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 All of his numbers get better each year. Maybe that's a sign of things to come?:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, lets be a "gunslinger" like Tony Romo sits to pee and try to "make things happen" out of nothing. We see how well he does in big games. :rolls eyes: or he could be like aaron rodgers, phillip rivers, or jay cutler. ya know, other young QBs that know how to put up 3500+ yards and 25+ TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Someone post Colt Brennan's stats. I wanna see how good he was in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 All of his numbers get better each year. Maybe that's a sign of things to come?:2cents: it seems hes only capable of adding a TD per year. i guess in a decade he'd be able to throws 23 TDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 or he could be like aaron rodgers, phillip rivers, or jay cutler. ya know, other young QBs that know how to put up 3500+ yards and 25+ TDs. Yet only one of them are in the playoffs. Maybe that's a sign that it's a team game not just a QB game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Someone post Colt Brennan's stats. I wanna see how good he was in college. this is gonna be funny. just remember he came from a super spread, throw first, never run offense. but its kinda hard to deny the dude could play in college. 2005: 350/515 - 4301 yards - 68.0 comp pct. - 35 TDs - 13 Ints 2006: 406/559 - 5549 yards - 72.6 comp pct. - 58 TDs - 12 Ints 2007 - 359/510 - 4343 yards - 70.4 comp pct. - 38 TDs - 17 Ints definitely "different" than campbells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 it seems hes only capable of adding a TD per year. i guess in a decade he'd be able to throws 23 TDs? Well when you have a RB like CP I understand why he doesn't get a lot of TDs. It's not like we get in the redzone and pass, pass, pass. We get in the redzone run it two times and than pass. While JC has most of the time one good shot to get a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yet only one of them are in the playoffs. Maybe that's a sign that it's a team game not just a QB game? check out those teams defenses and get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 this is gonna be funny. just remember he came from a super spread, throw first, never run offense. but its kinda hard to deny the dude could play in college.2005: 350/515 - 4301 yards - 68.0 comp pct. - 35 TDs - 13 Ints 2006: 406/559 - 5549 yards - 72.6 comp pct. - 58 TDs - 12 Ints 2007 - 359/510 - 4343 yards - 70.4 comp pct. - 38 TDs - 17 Ints definitely "different" than campbells. Yeah definitely a different team and he played worst teams than what JC did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 What those stats tell me is that dispite a ton of adversity in the form of a new offense each year you have listed, he continues to produce more TD's then INT's. He continues to be efficient. Who were his runningbackS (plural) at Auburn and how many TD's did they have? How many combined TD's did his Auburn teams score? The man has had continual turnover in his whole entire college and pro career and he has still managed to succeed, that tells me he can succeed at this level if given stability and an O-line. It also shows progression from year to year with decline in one year. Well, i can understand that due to the rapid turnover in his coaching dept. Ive had my moments of not believing in Campbell, but i think he needs time in a system to be "great". Right now he is efficient, and on the verge of being "good". People are pretty hard on him without looking objectively at his situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 hopefully this doesnt get smashed together with all the other campbell threads cause ive never seen all these numbers, but check some of them out.2002: 94/149 - 1215 yards - 63.1 comp pct. - 11 TDs - 5 Ints 2003: 181/293 - 2267 yards - 61.8 comp pct. - 10 TDs - 8 Ints 2004: 188/270 - 2700 yards - 69.6 comp pct. - 20 TDs - 7 Ints 2005: rookie year, no stats 2006: 110/207 - 1297 yards - 53.1 comp pct. - 10 TDs - 6 Ints 2007: 250/417 - 2700 yards - 60.0 comp pct. - 12 TDs - 11 Ints 2008: 315/506 - 3245 yards - 62.3 comp pct. - 13 TDs - 6 Ints Aside from his big year in college, he cant throw TD passes. no matter how many games he plays or how many passes he throws, he cannot throw TD passes. his INTs are always low because he plays very conservatively, and this is why he will never be the answer for us. to be a play maker in this league you have to be willing to make something happen, which campbell cannot/will not. im interested on peoples take on his college vs nfl stats. do they matter? is it eerie that they are similar? does anything seem like its gonna change no matter what system he gets stuck in? Scuse me, I happen like QB's who avoid mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Someone post Colt Brennan's stats. I wanna see how good he was in college. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=145275 05 - 350/515 68% 4301 yds 35 TD's 13 ints 06 - 406/559 72.6% 5549 yds 58 TD's 12 ints 07 - 359/510 70.4% 4343 yds 38 TD's 17 ints If he left after his 06 season, he would have been a top 10 draft pick. He's 6'3 201. If he can get up to 225, we may have something. The dude can flat out play. i don't give a damn about that Georgia bowl game. He was slaughtered as a result of the O-line getting overpowered by a great d-line. Sound familiar. Draft some solid o-linemen, get em up to NFL speed, and start em with Colt. This kid is gonna turn heads in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 For Comparison CB5 stats: Year CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2005 350 515 4301 68.0 8.35 87 35 13 35 155.49 2006 406 559 5549 72.6 9.93 79 58 12 26 185.96 2007 359 510 4343 70.4 8.52 67 38 17 28 159.85 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=145275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 or he could be like aaron rodgers, phillip rivers, or jay cutler. ya know, other young QBs that know how to put up 3500+ yards and 25+ TDs. Their team records were so much better this year because they threw for 25 TD's? :doh: Rodgers 6-10 Rivers 8-8 Cutler 8-8 No excuses allowed about their defenses, WR's, o-line, coaching, playcalling, etc, etc. If JC has to do it all by himself, so do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I would think most folks would realize that Zorn has demanded Campbell to be overly protective of the ball. I'm sure you remember Zorn going on and on about "protect the ball, give me another play". It certainly would explain why JC lead the league in INT percentage as well, when JC has explained that his first instinct is to go deep. We need to evaluate JC's performance not solely based on his production, but on his execution of Zorn's plan. I think he executed Zorn's plan fairly well (good completion %, lead league in INT %), but I think Zorn's plan (whether in its design, being unable to adjust, or personnel deficiencies at OL or WR) was flawed as well. Hopefully Zorn turns it loose next year and the OL and WR problems get sorted out so the Skins can figure out what the heck to do with JC. This isn't an excuse for either man. Both have to deliver next year or JC will be gone and Zorn will probably be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funguy1286 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Their team records were so much better this year because they threw for 25 TD's? :doh:Rodgers 6-10 Rivers 8-8 Cutler 8-8 No excuses allowed about their defenses, WR's, o-line, coaching, playcalling, etc, etc. If JC has to do it all by himself, so do they. Dude? JC had a top 5 defense. None of these players had a defense like ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 check out those teams defenses and get back to me. My point it's a team game. Those QBs also have these WRs. V.Jackson- Height 6-5 B.Marshall- Height 6-4 D.Driver- Height 6-0 Yes Driver is only 6-0 which is still bigger than any other WR on our team. Point is we need a big position WR to help out with JC and the passing game. Now we drafted two guys and our HC didn't really want to play them. So the team really doesn't know what we have in those two WRs. Either way those WRs had a good year and they have the height and the speed we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Dude? JC had a top 5 defense. None of these players had a defense like ours. Against the run, yes. We had the worst defense in terms of pass rush/sacks which actually helped the other quarterback. Can't count the number of times during a game that someone would post in the game thread that we made every other quarterback look like Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 it seems hes only capable of adding a TD per year. i guess in a decade he'd be able to throws 23 TDs? Why is everyone, it seems, only worried about his number of TDs? The Hall of Famer QB Troy Aikman threw for more than 20 TDs ONCE in his career, and has how many Super Bowl rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 For Comparison CB5 stats:Year CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2005 350 515 4301 68.0 8.35 87 35 13 35 155.49 2006 406 559 5549 72.6 9.93 79 58 12 26 185.96 2007 359 510 4343 70.4 8.52 67 38 17 28 159.85 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=145275 These stats prove without a shadow of a doubt to me that Colt Brennan is very accurate. Can't say that about Campbell, who misses wide open guys all the time. Now, Brennan, may not be an NFL caliber QB(who knows at this time), but all I know, judging from the stats, is that he is mad accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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