adamyesme1111 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 How many sacks do we have again?Turnovers? Oh yea we suck in 2 of the most important categories. Guess you'll enjoy sticking with 19-25 sacks a season while players in the 3-4 get 20 alone. fantastic. So with an offence that can't capitalize on turnovers OR good field position...You would rather have more sacks and turnovers, then holding teams to less points? Smart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Khan Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 another reason we need the 3-4 is that offensive lines in the nfc east are huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Uh yeah..... then you need bigger linebackers which we totally dont have. GENIUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan978 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think we should change the defense to a 3-4 and maybe that way we can get pressure on the QB. Could probably be able to pick Clay Matthews from USC in the 3rd round. Are secondary is good but we get no pressure on the QB!! Oh Yeah Fire Zorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 We don't have the 3-4 personnel here to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The major changes in this team should come on the other side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 There's already a thread on this. Use search next time, Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The Skins finished 4th on defense. I would like to see more sacks, but I think its more Blaches scheme. Defense isn't the problem. The offense needs to score points. And there is nothing wrong with Zorn. At 6-2, nobody was complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan978 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Well I know we don't have personal now that's why we use to draft. If you watch when we blitiz we rarley sack the QB. It's shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfr3ek Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 we run the 4-3 great! i dont think we should try to fix it if nothing is broken. Although, we do need some DLine upgrades. Our secondary is dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If the defense pressures the QB into a mistake, thats what a DC wants. Not about getting the QB on the ground all the time. I want to see more pressure. And the Skins need to address the problem in the draft or FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I don't get everyone's obsession with the 3-4, it's really no better than the 4-3, just a matter of preference. You still need guys that can pressure regardless. I've also felt it's easier to run on a 3-4 since a good run blocking o-line can get enough momentum to barrel those LBs down as those LB's have a little bit more field to cover compared to a down lineman. Plus, a 3-4 defense relies on a blitzing LB or 2 for pressure, as well as speed and confusion on the offense. However, it's still not the hardest to pick up, and if picked up, you have a mismatch between a 300+ lb lineman and a 250 lb linebacker. Blache's scheme is fine too, his personnel aren't. We put in a good DT and a good DE, and those sacks will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMayo21 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think this is actually a decent idea. Think about it; We need a complete dline revamping anyway, and only needing 3 linemen really makes that easier. and say HB plays the second MLB position, we'd only need another OLB to replace Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Trying to run a 3:4 defense without the personnel will result in a very weak defense. Skins would need to get a new DC and almostly completely change the entire DL and linebackers. The Skins defense is overrated IMO. They can't stop a team when the really need to do so. The lack of QB pressure (old story) allows mediocre QBs to play like Hall of Famers. No other team FEARS the Skins defense. They don't worry about their QB getting mauled. They don't worry about their WRs getting pounded over the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuraitengai Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Well I know we don't have personal now that's why we use to draft. If you watch when we blitiz we rarley sack the QB. It's shameful. you really think that we can use a single draft to get all the personnel needed to run a 3-4? not to mention that none of our defensive coaches are 3-4, they are all 4-3. and we only have what, 4 picks, in the draft to run a 3-4, we would need a completely new d-line with a monster NT. sure, maybe one of those 4 picks would be able to start from day 1, but that still leaves two key spots in need. then look at the LB, fletch and HB would be the MLBs, rocky on one side and jason on the other. marcus coming off the bench. where is the depth after that? chris wilson might be able to backup JT, but has he ever played OLB in a 3-4? so i wouldnt count on that. if you want to switch to a 3-4, its going to take a lot longer than a single off season, especially when we only have 4 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 you really think that we can use a single draft to get all the personnel needed to run a 3-4? not to mention that none of our defensive coaches are 3-4, they are all 4-3. and we only have what, 4 picks, in the draft to run a 3-4, we would need a completely new d-line with a monster NT. sure, maybe one of those 4 picks would be able to start from day 1, but that still leaves two key spots in need.then look at the LB, fletch and HB would be the MLBs, rocky on one side and jason on the other. marcus coming off the bench. where is the depth after that? chris wilson might be able to backup JT, but has he ever played OLB in a 3-4? so i wouldnt count on that. if you want to switch to a 3-4, its going to take a lot longer than a single off season, especially when we only have 4 picks. Your logic has no place here. Besides which, haven't you been reading? We're going to trade everyone...Portis, Cooley, Betts, Moss, Fletcher, everyone, and go from having 4 picks this draft to having 53. We're drafting an entire new team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81tothehall Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I think that we could use Montgomery as a traditional NT and rotate Griffin in and out. Slide Golston over to right end and let Evans man the left side. I would then draft Ray Mauluaga of USC to put right beside Fletcher. Stand Carter up at Weak Side LB and move Rocky over to the Strong Side. Focus the rest of our draft on the OL and I think we could have a good defense that actually brings pressure. Oh yeah SIGN Hall to man the corner opposite of Rogers and keep Smoot. I think we may actually have better personnel for a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I think that we could use Montgomery as a traditional NT and rotate Griffin in and out. Slide Golston over to right end and let Evans man the left side. I would then draft Ray Mauluaga of USC to put right beside Fletcher. Stand Carter up at Weak Side LB and move Rocky over to the Strong Side. Focus the rest of our draft on the OL and I think we could have a good defense that actually brings pressure. Oh yeah SIGN Hall to man the corner opposite of Rogers and keep Smoot. I think we may actually have better personnel for a 3-4. Blanche runs a 4-3 scheme and we are not built to run a 3-4. Besides, why mess with a top rated defense, when all we need is help on the line for a better pass rush. Sometimes I hate the off season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81tothehall Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Nobody was scared of our defense and we couldn't make plays when we had to have them. Grag Blache seems very replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Nobody was scared of our defense and we couldn't make plays when we had to have them. Grag Blache seems very replaceable. Nobody was scared because we didn't have a pass rush, because our interior line didn't get it done. We have a strong secondary, decent linebackers and pretty good defensive ends. The problem is, our DEs can't generate sacks because the interior linemen aren't getting pressure. Do you really think installing a new defensive scheme and not having the players to run it is going to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Nobody was scared of our defense and we couldn't make plays when we had to have them. Grag Blache seems very replaceable. I'm not sure how we finished up after the last game, we were around the #4 defense, but why would you change something that is working well? Personnel wise we are set up for the 4-3. Change for change sake isn't that great an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilskinzfan47 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I'd like to see em use both.Taylor can play both DE and LB.If he's healthy and Daniels is back we could mix it up a bit more.Show one package and switch to the other before the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I'm not sure how we finished up after the last game, we were around the #4 defense, but why would you change something that is working well? Personnel wise we are set up for the 4-3. Change for change sake isn't that great an idea. We finished at 4th overall. We just need to beef up the D-line and get some sacks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Sure, why not. Not like we having anything better to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Blanche runs a 4-3 scheme and we are not built to run a 3-4. Besides, why mess with a top rated defense, when all we need is help on the line for a better pass rush. Sometimes I hate the off season.... Exactly. It's not broke so why fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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