Frediemac Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I love Jon but do any of my Skin brethren here on Extreme Skins think that he made not keep his starting spot come September vs G-Men? Interested to see what you guys think about this? :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hahahaha, who would he lose it to? Wade? Fabini? Heyer? Come on, now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Unless Heyer has really improved or Jansen has lingering effects from injury, I think the job is his. Heyer has potential but was raw last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 There might be a slight chance, depending on what kind of shape he is in. But its very small. Buges is an old school guy and loves Jansen, I dont see Zorn or anybody else ultimately deciding who the line will be over Buges. There probably a better chance of him starting and losing the job somewhere during the season. All in all I say 95% chance he is still the starting RT on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hahahaha, who would he lose it to? Wade? Fabini? Heyer? Come on, now! He could loose it to either Wade or Heyer, yes. Jon hasnt look good in years, and was getting pushed around like a girl in pre-season last year. He looked horrible. If he plays like that again this year, I hope to god he does get benched. Otherwise we'll be looking for a new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think Heyer will take it mid year, but not by the beginning of the season. I love Jansen and all, but he is definitely losing a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frediemac Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 My guess was that if anybody had a chance it would be Heyer. Oh and thank you guys for your response :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Nobody is taking Jansen's spot and he will return to form this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch_Lives59 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 only if he gets hurt.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I see it almost impossible unless Jansen looks really bad. He played with two broken thumbs and did great. He is hard nosed, strong, and a fighter. Although I think Heyere did well, he would have to sigfincantly improve combined with Jansen declining. A year removed from playing might have actually helped a vet like Jansen recover overall and get him back and ready to play better than when entering last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Well, the starting spot at RT is Jansen's to lose. While he's not the Jansen of 2001, he's still better than any other alternative we now have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think Jansen will be starting, but I see Heyer being rotated in often during the games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think Jansen will get his starting job back. Heyer seemed to be the best option last year, and he played descent. But Jansen is a monster when he's fully healthy. The only way Jon won't start is if he's injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 i would be EXTREMELY amazed if jansen doesnt have his starting spot on week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 He could loose it to either Wade or Heyer, yes. Jon hasnt look good in years, and was getting pushed around like a girl in pre-season last year. He looked horrible. If he plays like that again this year, I hope to god he does get benched. Otherwise we'll be looking for a new QB. Ever since that Bill Parcell's comment everyone thinks Jansen is done. You apparently didn't see Heyer and Wade in the run game did you...not to mention pass pro as well? Jansen can still play at a much higher level than both Heyer and Wade. Heyer has chicken legs man (built like a lineman on top and built like a receiver in the legs :laugh: )and Wade is just plain retarded (where do I go, uh where do I go?), but not as retarded as Fabini :doh: (why did we retain him?...for the life of me :whoknows: ) If Heyer builds more strength in his lower body to help him stay centered and on his man, then absolutely he could take the spot, but he's not built to be a RT. Hell, he's not built at all, but he's working on that from what we're being told. Heyer would be better served on the opposite side b/c he's okay in the passing game, but until Samuels leaves DC, he's not starting there. Jansen is still a quality starter in this league, and he should come back pretty strong since his injury was in week 1. You just never know with him though, b/c he's been banged up a lot lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridgely00 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 If Jansen can stay upright,he'll be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Jansen was declining before he got hurt... but my god, without help Heyer looked terrible last year. Unless Jansen gets hurt again, I don't see him leaving the field much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucfSKINS Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 There might be a slight chance, depending on what kind of shape he is in. But its very small. Buges is an old school guy and loves Jansen, I dont see Zorn or anybody else ultimately deciding who the line will be over Buges. There probably a better chance of him starting and losing the job somewhere during the season. All in all I say 95% chance he is still the starting RT on opening day. that right there says Jansen holds his spot and is the starter come opening day, pending injury. and please God, no more injuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 its ironic that jason taylor is the main reason Jon got hurt in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 that right there says Jansen holds his spot and is the starter come opening day, pending injury.and please God, no more injuries! Yeah, I'd almost rather see him not play at all in the pre-season. It just makes me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonian Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think Jon Jansen will retain his starting spot this season, but that doesn't mean he is the same player he used to be. As much as I want to see the guy succeed, I feel that his best days are behind him. He was getting pummeled during the pre-season last year, and almost got Jason Campbell seriously injured because of his sub-par performance. Many fans will forget that we had a real scare last pre-season when Campbell went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatman28 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 This remains to be seen. I think Heyer could replace him and actually did last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Ever since that Bill Parcell's comment everyone thinks Jansen is done. You apparently didn't see Heyer and Wade in the run game did you...not to mention pass pro as well? Jansen can still play at a much higher level than both Heyer and Wade. Heyer has chicken legs man (built like a lineman on top and built like a receiver in the legs :laugh: )and Wade is just plain retarded (where do I go, uh where do I go?), but not as retarded as Fabini :doh: (why did we retain him?...for the life of me :whoknows: )If Heyer builds more strength in his lower body to help him stay centered and on his man, then absolutely he could take the spot, but he's not built to be a RT. Hell, he's not built at all, but he's working on that from what we're being told. Heyer would be better served on the opposite side b/c he's okay in the passing game, but until Samuels leaves DC, he's not starting there. Jansen is still a quality starter in this league, and he should come back pretty strong since his injury was in week 1. You just never know with him though, b/c he's been banged up a lot lately. Did you watch Jansen in preseason last year? I'm guessing you didnt, because he was horrible. He was getting physically dominated on passing plays, pushed 2-3 yards deep and being bent backwards. He got zero push on running down and many time got pushed back and bent backwards. And he was healthy. Heyer was much better in pass protection (and he isnt great) and about the same as Jon was in run blocking (which wasnt good). Wade is supposed to be less physical than Jon but he's still better in pass protection. And Jon isnt very physical, getting pushed around by guys that wiegh 40 pounds less than he does on ever play (see the Titans preseason game). I was shocked at how terrible he looked. Shocked. If he plays like that we wont have to wonder about JC, because he'll be out for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinskinsfan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 There is a small chance to lose it to heyer. Heyer has beefed up and lost all the baby fat, he is looking like a beast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 its ironic that jason taylor is the main reason Jon got hurt in the first place. Yep, Taylor blew Jansen up and pushed him about 2 yards into the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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