Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 There's just not a lot said about him. The only news I hear about McCain is actual straight reporting. He went there. He said this. Is McCain not receiving enough scrutiny? Generally, if I hear anything about him at all, which is rare, it is positive or just neutral reporting. Is McCain actually getting the free pass everyone pretends Obama is getting? (Afterall, we see three negative Obama articles posted every day. It's hard to say anymore that Obama is media-adored. Although, I think that was true three months ago.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 There's just not a lot said about him. The only news I hear about McCain is actual straight reporting. He went there. He said this. Is McCain not receiving enough scrutiny? Generally, if I hear anything about him at all, which is rare, it is positive or just neutral reporting.Is McCain actually getting the free pass everyone pretends Obama is getting? (Afterall, we see three negative Obama articles posted every day. It's hard to say anymore that Obama is media-adored. Although, I think that was true three months ago.) McCain is a known quantity. That he was HAMMERED on the Supreme Court GITMO case, even by conservative pundits like George Will Its just that anti-Obama articles show up in the tailgate more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 This a joke/sarcasm thread? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think that is largely true. I think McCain is the boring, known quantity. While Obama is the interesting sexy newcomer. Still, I thought the balance would have evened out somewhat after the primary. Right now, McCain is still enjoying a long holiday from media attention, esp. negative media attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nah, cause the real story has been Hillary vs. Obama. He's not going to be given a free pass at all. The media will be too wrapped up in all things Obama, good and bad, to do much with McCain. Burgold, are you upset that McCain hasn't had any bad press yet? It's only June, just relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Burgold, are you upset that McCain hasn't had any bad press yet? It's only June, just relax :laugh: I think it just occurred to me that McCain might be getting a Jan Brady complex. Obama! Obama! Obama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You obviously dont watch MSNBC. They cream him every day, pretty much all day. They also take Obama to task as well though. They're equal opportunity bashers. Except KeithO. He's just a miserable liberal asshat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 You obviously dont watch MSNBC.They cream him every day, pretty much all day. They also take Obama to task as well though. They're equal opportunity bashers. Ahha!!!! Proof from Kilmer that MSNBC is not liberally biased! MSNBC does not lean left! It bashes everyone equally!!! (don't own cable. I rely on ES, the networks, and papers for my news) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I watch mostly MSNBC. They give both Obama and McCain a hardtime. Yesterday was an Obama-bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Why focus on McCain when Obama and his entourage is such a traveling circus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think it has more to do with Obama's love/hate appeal and McCains lack of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Typed in John McCain in google. Hit the 'news' button "Is the McCain brand damaged" "John McCain's cynical energy policy" "McCain struggles to break free of Bush" "McCain the maverick goes MIA" "McCain's courtship of women runs into trouble" All on the first page. Do you mean there isn't enough negative McCain threads on ES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I like MSNBC for their pundits. Where else can you get Rachel Maddow sitting next to Pat Buchanan for hours on end? But their hosts are wayyyyyyy left. KeithO, Matthews, Gregory, Abrams.... Not exactly the Heritage Foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nice quotes Jimmy :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Artificial method, skins24. Boo on your research methods Did you think that you would not get news about John McCain if you used John McCain as your keywords? That does not speak as to the relative prevelance or number of articles relative to the whole or the degree of media attention. Getting a free pass doesn't mean absolute zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Artificial method, skins24. Boo on your research methods Did you think that you would not get news about John McCain if you used John McCain as your keywords? That does not speak as to the relative prevelance or number of articles relative to the whole or the degree of media attention. Getting a free pass doesn't mean absolute zero. All the articles were written (or posted) in the past 12 hours. So that means he's getting about 10 negative articles per day Counted 0 (possibly 1) negative article when Obama's name is put in.... Seriously though, his age, comparisons to Bush, his flip flops are always being brought up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 you realize that McCain locked up the party nomination a long time ago making him a non-story compared to hillary/obama race going on at the time. as the election day moves forward, he'll have his share of time in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 It's hard to thrash someone who served our country so loyally. All politics aside the man is a true hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpyaks3 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 It's hard to thrash someone who served our country so loyally.All politics aside the man is a true hero. No its not, the media could bring up his involvement in the Keating 5, him leaving his wife, his temper, him changing his position on torture, mlk day, confederate flag in south carolina, bush tax cuts, off shore drilling, him lying or not remembering his Katrina votes, his extreme change in tone regarding the religious right from 2000 to now, his consistent confusion of sunni and shia. There are plenty of things to go after McCain for. However, he has been the most accessible person for the press. I believe the media is just trying to keep this election "close" because right now Obama is pulling away, however instead of that you hear how he has difficulty with "Hillary supporters" when in reality almost all except the crazies have gone over to him. Edit: He is a hero for his war effort. However, that doesnt exempt him from negative press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 No its not, the media could bring up his involvement in the Keating 5, him leaving his wife, his temper, him changing his position on torture, mlk day, confederate flag in south carolina, bush tax cuts, off shore drilling, him lying or not remembering his Katrina votes, his extreme change in tone regarding the religious right from 2000 to now, his consistent confusion of sunni and shia. There are plenty of things to go after McCain for. However, he has been the most accessible person for the press. I believe the media is just trying to keep this election "close" because right now Obama is pulling away, however instead of that you hear how he has difficulty with "Hillary supporters" when in reality almost all except the crazies have gone over to him.Edit: He is a hero for his war effort. However, that doesnt exempt him from negative press. What's fair is fair,don't doubt the media when it comes to ignoring McCain. Here is the problem, America doesn't know who Obama is, I mean really we just started to get to know the guy eight months ago. Now he is the candidate, he is being scrutinized, as he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 What's fair is fair,don't doubt the media when it comes to ignoring McCain. Here is the problem, America doesn't know who Obama is, I mean really we just started to get to know the guy eight months ago. Now he is the candidate, he is being scrutinized, as he should be. That's true, but there is plenty of dirt on McCain that is going by unnoticed or un-discussed. Keating 5, his divorce from his crippled wife, etc. Those topics are just as valuable as whether or not Obama wore a flag pin too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 McCains divorce of 20 plus years ago to a woman who still ACTIVELY campaigns for him should be as big of an issue as Obamas muslim background. IE, not at all relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 McCains divorce of 20 plus years ago to a woman who still ACTIVELY campaigns for him should be as big of an issue as Obamas muslim background. IE, not at all relevant. I mostly agree, but I would say instead that it's as relevant as Clinton's, Bush's and Obama's marijuana history in college. Certainly, what McCain did as a young adult seems very, very ugly. Does it reflect on who he is today? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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