Predict the '08 Roster

[Recent Vintage]

So maybe this is early since we don't even know who the UDFA's are yet, but now that we've got our draft picks, lay down who you think it'll be that makes the team. Of course this can be updated all the way into camp.

Anyone think this would make for a good contest? Perhaps a chance to get a custom Avi if you get it right, custom title maybe? Avatar bet?

Who knows.

Anyway, here's what I have going so far.

S - Obviously some needs going into the draft with the death of ST (RIP) and PP not getting signed.

Landry - Duh.

Doughty - Definitely played well in his starting tenure, I like him at SS.

Fox - Great STer, and could be servicable as a backup.

Moore - We obviously need a backup, and this guy seems to have some skils.

Horton/FA (?) - I can't really say at this point.

CB

Rogers (PUP?) - He'll probably be on the PUP list when the season starts, but after weeks 6 he could be active again.

Springs - Let's hope he stays healthy.

Smoot - Love the guy, will probably move back to nickel once Carlos gets back on the field.

Tryon - He certainly can talk the talk, but I hope he can walk, return value is nice, and even though he's short he could still prove to be a good nickel/backup corner.

Torrence - Hard to say, we know he's fast, but also saw him get burned last season.

(In case Carlos is IR/PUP) - Eubank/Westbrook - So we've got five corners on the roster, if Carlos ends up on IR one of these guys will probably end up getting the call, otherwise I think Eubank gets cut, and Westbrook may be on the PS again.

LB

McIntosh (PUP?) - Hard to say, kind of a similar situation with Carlos Rogers, but I doubt he ends up on IR with the positive words we've gotten from Bubba Tyer.

Washington - Hope he stays healthy.

Fletcher - Duh.

Blades - Great backup, great name too.

K. Campbell - Great STer, made a good play or two at Minnesotta, but I don't see him being a full-time contributer.

Verdun-Wheeler - Decent backup. Has played in the NFL.

Wallace, Sinclare or (?) - should the unspeakable occur, and Washington go down, and McIntosh isn't back yet one of these two or an UDFA will get the call. Let's pray it doesn't come to taht.

DE

Carter - I love the guy, hope he continues to improve against the run, and gets double digit sacks again.

Daniels - Getting old, but still fantastic against the run. Hope he's got a year or two left in the tank.

Wilson - Sack specialist. Could develop into an every down back if he can put on some weight, here's to hoping Blache can get this guy to that point.

Evans - Great backup.

Jackson/Buzbee - Practice squad! These guys are good, but we'll have to wait until camp to see what they actually have to offer.

DT

Monty - Love him.

Griffin- Hasn't regained the greatness of '05, but here's to hoping he can get close and/or stay healthy.

Golston - Like him

Askew/Boschetti/Alexander - I read somewhere Alexander is projected to go more onto offense, but he's still listed as a DT on the redskins.com roster, and I feel like Askew is really just camp fodder. To be honest I don't know anything about Boschetti.

OL:

Rabach - Serviceable, but getting older, and nothing to write home about. Also we need depth behind him.

Thomas - His injuries don't worry me as much as Jansen's, they were both of freakish nature.

Jansen - Seems to be injury prone now, and production has dropped.

Kendall - Great trade but getting old.

Samuels - Easily the best we have, not to mention the one of the best in the league.

BUs - Heyer, Rinehart, Fabini, Alexander? I like Heyer a lot, hopefully he's hitting the weights as I type. Fabini is great as a backup, and Rinehart apparently has the right stuff, hopefully Buges can get him into NFL shape and we'll have 3 great backups this year on our OL. (Apparently Zorn wants Rinehart taking snaps as backup center, great idea IMO.)

QB

Campbell - Duh

Collins - Fantastic backup.

Brennan - Hopefully Zorn can help him refine his technique

RB

Portis - duh

Betts - great backup

Cartwright - With all the return power we've amassed I'm wondering what his role will be.

Mason - Will probably remain on the practice squad.

FB

Sellers - Love the guy, wish we had depth though.

Pete Schmidt - We desperately need a backup.

TE

Cooley - His probowl season speaks for itself.

Davis - Will probably thrive only in 2 TE sets and the redzone, unless Cooley gets hurt. (Hope to God he doesn't)

Ecker or Yoder will be cut... perhaps both.

WR

Moss - I really hope his hamstrings hold up.

ARE - I'll be pissed if we trade him.

Kelly - Will be a fantastic redzone threat.

Thomas - I love another fast guy, but especially because he's 6'2"

Mix/Thrash - One of them will be cut. The other WRs have a snowballs chance in hell of making the team.

Special Teams

LS - Albright - duh

K - Suisham - I like him, and I think he did well last season.

P - Brooks - 76 yard punts are impressive, but I hope with our retooled offense we won't need him that often.

My official prediction for the 53 man roster is 5 Safeties, 5 CBs, 6 Lbs, 5 DEs, 4 DTs, 9 OL, 3 QBs, 4 Running Backs, 2 TEs, 2 Fullbacks, 5 WRs, then K, P, and the long celebrated long snapper.

8 man practice squad:

I think it'll be 2 OL (Out of Crummey, Brown, or Kyle Devan) 2 LB (Out of Sinclaire, Wallace, or Gatewood) 2 DL (Mapu, Buzbee, Jackson) and 1 TE (Ecker) and 1 CB (Westbrook or Holt)

This is kind of a wet-dream practice squad, and pretty unlikely, but it's positions on the team I'd really like to see us keep developing players.

There's two full backs on my 53 man, and if need-be it'd be easy to stick Schmidt on the practice squad to open a spot for say, a 3rd TE (Yoder or Ecker) or perhaps a 6th WR (Say they can't decide between Thrash and Mix.) Same goes for the 4 RBs and sticking Mason on the practice squad.

EDIT:

I was going to update this post as news hits, etc, but I'll just make a new post with changes.

[SkinsNoles21]

Brooks will help out our defense tremendously ... weird but true.

[MrJL]

Alexander is the defense guy going offense.

As for LBs free agency isn't over yet. Lemar Marshall is a free agent I think. We could bring him back.

[Recent Vintage]

Yeah, I meant Alexander, just typed this all up I was bound for a typo or two.

[tml6157]

we haven't even finished signing the UDFA's yet. Lets wait to see how they actually play.

[DiscoBob]

I hope we find room for Marcus Mason - I know he was playing against sub-par competition in preseason ball, but last year he looked like he had the "it" factor that I've never seen from Rock. I kinda wish he had gotten signed by someone else so we were forced to find a developmental back.

I loved what I saw from Ahmad Bradshaw (sp? Giants) last year, and would love to a potential diamond in the rough at RB.

I like Rock, but I'd put him in the low risk/reward category - solid, but almost no chance he develops into something more...

[SoCalSkins]

I can see us keeping 6 WR if Mathis performs well on returns over Rock.

[bushwack]

Also don't forget about Sam Hollenbach as possibly being the #3 QB, and having Brennan on the practice squad, depending on Brennan's health. Also McIntosh's injury wasn't as serious as Rogers was, I think he'll be ready come week 1 and he'll avoid the PUP list.

[Recent Vintage]

I don't really take much stock in Hollenbach unless Brennan ends up on IR or the practice squad, Zorn really seems to like the guy.

I really don't think Mathis is going to get a Roster spot, we've got two draftees with punt or kick return abilities, and Rock's definitely good on kick returns.

[Never4get#21]

CB

Rogers (PUP?) - He'll probably be on the PUP list when the season starts, but after weeks 6 he could be active again.

Springs - Let's hope he stays healthy.

Smoot - Love the guy, will probably move back to nickel once Carlos gets back on the field.

Tryon - He certainly can talk the talk, but I hope he can walk, return value is nice, and even though he's short he could still prove to be a good nickel/backup corner.

Torrence - Hard to say, we know he's fast, but also saw him get burned last season.

? - Eubank/Westbrook - So we've got five corners on the roster, if Carlos ends up on IR one of these guys will probably end up getting the call, otherwise I think Eubank gets cut, and Westbrook may be on the PS again.

LB

McIntosh (PUP?) - Hard to say, kind of a similar situation with Carlos Rogers, but I doubt he ends up on IR with the positive words we've gotten from Bubba Tyer.

Washington - Hope he stays healthy.

Fletcher - Duh.

Blades - Great backup, great name too.

K. Campbell - Great STer, made a good play or two at Minnesotta, but I don't see him being a full-time contributer.

Sinclaire or Verdun-Wheeler? (?) - should the unspeakable occur, and Washington go down, and McIntosh isn't back yet one of these two or an UDFA will get the call. Let's pray it doesn't come to taht.

Nice post BTW.

You hit the nail right on the head. We drafted 2 guys in the Second round that wont even get much playing time this year. TE in WCO is Cooley, so Davis will ride the pine and Thomas or Kelly will be odd man out until we have 4 WR set. That is if Mix doesnt show us something this year. If Mix does then one of the two will be inactive.

CB and LB is going to be our achilles heal this year. Our draft picks are special teamers or nickel guys at best. We have no answer at LB. Blades is not a OLB he too short and slow. UDFA?? maybe. I just hope Rocky comes back good and we have no injuries or it will be a looong season.

Every other team in our division drafted both sides of the ball early. We drafted offense?

[Recent Vintage]

Nice post BTW.

You hit the nail right on the head. We drafted 2 guys in the Second round that wont even get much playing time this year. TE in WCO is Cooley, so Davis will ride the pine and Thomas or Kelly will be odd man out until we have 4 WR set. That is if Mix doesnt show us something this year. If Mix does then one of the two will be inactive.

CB and LB is going to be our achilles heal this year. Our draft picks are special teamers or nickel guys at best. We have no answer at LB. Blades is not a OLB he too short and slow. UDFA?? maybe. I just hope Rocky comes back good and we have no injuries or it will be a looong season.

Every other team in our division drafted both sides of the ball early. We drafted offense?

Thanks, and I wholehartedly agree. I really do hope that JT ends up being a late-round gem, but I really think that we would've been better off getting Calais Campbell with the Davis pick. Granted, the FO was probably looking hard at Trevor Laws, or perhaps Brandon Flowers with the Devin Thomas pick, then again, that's me being a Hokie-Homer.

Someone mentioned Lemar Marshall, and he'd probably be a great insurance policy at this point. Especially since Godfrey seems deadset on retirement.

Also on the post about us drafting all offense: It makes sense to me. OL in the third round was definitely a great pick, and the two wide receivers makes sense to me as well. The odds of both of them not working out is much slimmer than just picking one, and I'm all for giving Zorn the tools to succeed.

I have a harder time defending the Davis pick, but as I said in the OP, 2 TE sets and red zone packages with him could have phenenomenal results. Besides, having an reliable backup for Cooley is awesome. (As much as I like Yoder, there's no way he could produce as much as our offense required a TE to do.)

[bushwack]

I don't really take much stock in Hollenbach unless Brennan ends up on IR or the practice squad, Zorn really seems to like the guy.

I really don't think Mathis is going to get a Roster spot, we've got two draftees with punt or kick return abilities, and Rock's definitely good on kick returns.

I have to disagree with you about Mathis, if he's healthy, him and Cartwright will be the 2 KR's and hopefully Mathis will be the PR. I know Thomas and I believe Tryon can return kicks, but I'd rather have Thomas focus only on the WR position and the same with Tryon focusing on the #3/nickelback position.

[Recent Vintage]

See, I feel like with ARE, Thomas, and Tryon we'd be set with punt returns. I know ARE didn't do that well last year, but I feel like the blocking wasn't that great either, there was almost always someone right in his face.

Between Mathis' injury history and questionable character I really don't think he's the guy.

[Glockypoo]

What about Todd Wade? IMHO, when healthy he is our best backup OL.

[SoCalSkins]

See, I feel like with ARE, Thomas, and Tryon we'd be set with punt returns. I know ARE didn't do that well last year, but I feel like the blocking wasn't that great either, there was almost always someone right in his face.

Between Mathis' injury history and questionable character I really don't think he's the guy.

Mathis is the only Pro Bowl return man on the roster. The character issue was probably a factor in whether or not he would be signed, as far as making the roster, I don't think it will be a consideration unless there is a new incident. If he breaks a couple of returns in the 5 preseason games, it will be his job.

[Recent Vintage]

I guess I didn't take Todd Wade's health into consideration, but after his performance last season I don't really see him being a quality backup.

And SoCal, I guess we just see things differently... I never really understood the Mathis signing to begin with, between his character issues and injury history I don't see him being a great contributer, thus not worth a roster spot. Granted he was a pro-bowler, but he hasn't produced that well since his pro-bowl rookie season.

[elkabong82]

QB: Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Colt Brennan

RB: Clinton Portis, Ladel Betts, Rock Cartwright

FB: Mike Sellers

TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Todd Yoder

WR: Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Antwan Randle El, Malcolm Kelly, Anthony Mix, James Thrash

OT: Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Stephon Heyer, Brown (UDFA)

OG: Randy Thomas, Pete Kendall, Chad Rinehart, Jason Fabini, Lorenzo Alexander

C: Casey Rabach, Chad Rinehart

DE: Andre Carter, Phillip Daniels, Chris Wilson, Demetric Evans

DT: Cornelius Griffin, Anthony Montgomery, Kedric Gholston, Lorenzo Alexander

OLB: Rocky McIntosh, Marcus Washington, Khary Campbell, FA vet

MLB: London Fletcher, HB Blades

CB: Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, Carlos Rogers, Justin Tryon, Leigh Torrence, Eubanks

FS: Laron Landry, Vernon Fox,

SS: Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore, FA vet

LS: Ethan Albright

K: Shaun Suisham

P: Durant Brooks

[RammsteinSkins]

I'll say 53 players,just a random guess.....

[bedlamVR]

I pretty much agree with what has been said here. I think Thrash is gone because he getting up there in age and made the team on ST alone (not een a KR or PR) and Mix can offer more potential on offense . That said he will still be around to final cut downs .

I would hope that No1. No2 No 3 WRs are not set in stone and all 4 of the top guys will rotate in and out depending on the situation . Less downs will also hopefully help keep Moss and ARE in better shape which is why I like the Thomas and Kelly picks .

Someone did ask why our draft was so offense orrientated , It could be something to do with it being our weaker area last year AND we have a new offensive system being installed . We always tend to have lopsided drafts most teams do most years it is all about who comes up when there are 31 other teams picking at the same time as you that makes the entire draft so unpridictable..

[DallasSucks19922010]

Whos going to be holder for placekicks? Derrick Frost was beast at holding.

[RammsteinSkins]

Whos going to be holder for placekicks? Derrick Frost was beast at holding.

Yeah,he was pretty good except for the Minnesota game last year.....hopefully Durant can hold well cause he will be our punter for the '08 season :cool:

[terpfan]

It starts!

QB: J. Campbell, T. Collins, C. Brennen ®

HB: C. Portis, L. Betts, R. Cartwright

FB: M. Sellers

TE: C. Cooley, F. Davis ®, T. Yoder

WR: S. Moss, D. Thomas ®, J. Thrash

WR: A. Randle El, M. Kelly ®, A. Mix

LT: C. Samuels, S. Heyer

RT: J. Jansen, T. Wade

LG: P. Kendall, C. Rinehart ®

RG: R. Thomas, J. Fabini

C: C. Rabach

LE: A. Carter, C. Wilson, R. Jackson ®

RE: P. Daniels, D. Evans

DT: C. Griffin, K. Golston, R. Boschetti

DT: A. Montgomery, L. Alexander

SLB: M. Washington, M. Sinclair

WLB: R. McIntosh, K. Campbell

MLB: L. Fletcher, H.B. Blades

CB: S. Springs, C. Rogers, L. Torrence

CB: F. Smoot, J. Tryon ®

FS: L. Landry, K. Moore ®

SS: R. Doughty, V. Fox

K: S. Suisham

P: D. Brooks ®

LS: E. Albright

Notes:

- There was talk about Brennen being stashed on IR with that hip injury, which would open up a spot.

- I have Mix as the 6th WR for now. If he plays well, I think he makes the roster. But if he doesnt show enough...

- I think Yoder sticks around as the third TE. If Zorn is serious about running a lot of 2 TE sets, he's going to want to have three on the team.

- I think UDFA Kerry Brown has a good chance of making the roster. Maybe he supplants Fabini, Wade, or Rinehart. The practice squad is an option as well, but if he plays as well as I think he could, we may not want to risk losing him there.

- The backup at center will be interesting. Hopefully Rinehart can play that position well enough. UDFA Devan will probably get a hard look.

- Rob Jackson is a boom or bust type. He will either make a real impression or be out on his ass. Prediciting him to make the roster at this point is wishful thinking, but oh well.

- I don't know how Ryan Boschetti keeps hanging around, but he does. For whatever reason, Blache must like him.

- The 6th LB will likely be an unknown. Matt Sinclair should have the inside track. He got into some games on special teams last year.

- The safety position will likely be confused for a while with a handful of low round picks and UDFAs fighting for backup spots.

- Brooks over Frost is far from a lock. Frost had been staking out a nice little niche for himself here, but its seems like he could be simply over-matched by the talented rookie.

[Voice_of_Reason]

Yeah,he was pretty good except for the Minnesota game last year.....hopefully Durant can hold well cause he will be our punter for the '08 season :cool:

I can't believe we're talking about who holds for field goals in April, but I've always been a fan of the backup QB holding on field goals. Because you know that guy can throw the ball and opens up a few fakes... But I think the only backup QB who does that any more is Brad Johnson. So it will probably be the punter.

btw, when a team takes 2 WRs in the second, it's a "put on notice" move for everybody on the roster. Moss and ARE are safe. I think everybody else has to win a roster spot, because the 2 #2s are going to make the team. And I don't think they're going to carry 6 WRs. So either Thrash or Mix or potentially both are gone.

[panel]

Here it is guys:

QBs

Campbell

Collins

Brennan

RBs

Portis

Betts

Cartwright

FBs

Sellers

Nemo

WRs

Santana

Randal El

Trash

Mix

Kelly

Thomas

OL

Samuels

Kendall

Rabach

Thomas

Jansen

Heyer

Rinehart

Wade

Fabini

TE

Cooley

Davis

Yodder

DE

Daniels

Carter

Evens

Wilson

DT

Griffin

Montgomery

Golston

Alexander

LB

McIntosh

Washington

Fletcher

Blades

K. Campbell

C. Gatewood

CB

Rogers

Springs

Smoot

Tryon

Westbrook

S

Landry

Doughty

Fox

J Scott

Moore

LS

Albright

K

Suisham

P

Brooks

[xX2PORTIS6Xx]

I'll take at stab at it, I'm bored, take it for what its worth(nothing) as I said i'm bored.Please be gentle.

QB

Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Sam Hollenbach

RB

Clinton Portis,Ladell Betts,Rock Cartwright

FB

Mike Sellers

TE

Chris Cooley,Fred Davis,Todd Yoder

WR

Santana Moss,Devin Thomas,,James Thrash,Jerome Mathis

Antwaan Randle El,Malcolm Kelly,Anthony Mix

OLine

Chris Samuels,Stephon Heyer

Pete Kendall,Jason Fabini,Lorenzon Alexander(situational)

Casey Rabach

Randy Thomas,Chad Rinehart

Jon Jansen,Todd Wade

D-Ends

Andre Carter,Chris Wilson

Phillip Daniels,Demetric Evans,Rob Jackson

D-Tackles

Cornelius Griffin,Lorenzon Alexander

Anthony Montgomery,Kedric Golston

OLB

Marcus Washington,Khary Campbell

Rocky McIntosh,Veteran Free Agent

MLB

London Fletcher, H.B Blades

CB

Shawn Springs,Justin Tryon

Fred Smoot, Leigh Torrence

Carlos Rogers (starts year on P.U.P list, I dont know how this works for overall roster #s)

John Eubanks if Rogers goes on P.U.P

Safety

Laron Landry,Kareem Moore

Reed Doughty,Vernon Fox

LS

Ethan Albright

Punter

Durant Brooks

Kicker

Shaun Suisham

Practice Squad Colt Brennan,Byron Westbrook,Marcus Mason,Tyler Ecker,Alonzo Dotson,Chris Horton,Shannon Boatman,Curtis Gatewood