Touchdown Redskins Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Probably would require too many draft picks. I want to continue to develop our young talent here. We seem to have been doing a good job with that the past 2 years. He's an unrestricted free agent this offseason, so he wouldn't require a single draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 what will he play? OLB in a 4-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I heard him on Comcast saying he couldn't remain in Baltimore after Billick's firing, he went on to say that he would LIKE to remain in the area. Me personally, I think the guy is a monster, but it's pretty obvious he's a LB who can also rush. If he was able to play DE on every down, and I say grab the guy. I'd prefer to get Jared Allen who is an absolute DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I like him more than Jared Allen and should be cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonINFORSIX26 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I dont want him. I have watched him play in Baltimore and he is the most undisciplined and hott tempered player. I remember in 2005 I was watching the Ravens/Rams game and they called a penalty on him and he threw the ball in the crowd. There is no place for players like that on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Because hes black?You guys don't understand talent. Kindly go build your strawman elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Yeah,.. I guess FA has not been good to us:1.) Griffin 2.) Washington 3.) Springs 4.) ARE 5.) Fletcher 6.) Thomas 7.) Rabach 8.) Collins 9.) Carter Not to mention trades..which are similar: 1.) Portis 2.) Kendall 3.) Moss those are the good ones,and how funny that your top 3 FA's might not even be on the team next year if they don't restructure those super inflating contracts. and ditto for portis,who has an outrageous cap hit this upcoming season. the fact we gave a combined 30 million guaranteed to ARE/Lloyd/Archuleta is frightening. yes I said ARE, he's a good #2/#3 and makes plays but no other team would fathom giving him a deal worth a maximum of 30 million&10 mil guaranteed. the draft is where it's at,and nothings wrong with complimenting it with FA's,but stupid spending like we've done puts us in situations where at the start of the 08 cap year were 20 million over were some teams are 40 million under.:hint: the team thats 40 million under went through their own cap hell,has refrained from signing big FA's and is currently 10-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 No talking about off-season until after the Super Bowl victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I heard him on Comcast saying he couldn't remain in Baltimore after Billick's firing, he went on to say that he would LIKE to remain in the area. Me personally, I think the guy is a monster, but it's pretty obvious he's a LB who can also rush. If he was able to play DE on every down, and I say grab the guy. I'd prefer to get Jared Allen who is an absolute DE. truth allen's a force at DE,and has gotten better every year while sugg's sack total has gone lower and lower. I doubt we have the cap room for allen though, it'd be a good problem to decide who goes to RE,allen or carter. carter made plays there against minny so I think he might go there should we get a better RE. and one concern I have about allen is his drinking problem.he says he's completely given up booze but one more mistake and he's sitting out for a year I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'll trust Coach Gibbs to make decisions about guys we add to this team.He is a good judge of character and knows what will help or hinder this team.As far as a player though,that's a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 H.B. Blades has worked hard to improve himself and try to get the starting job. I think it would be a slap in the face for him if they brought Suggs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 1. No expenditure of draft choices 2. FO/Coaches need to determine if he would be a good fit 3. Doesn't break the bank Still think we need another corner more than a LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recent Vintage Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Let's just draft Vince Hall, Xavier Adibi, or Chris Ellis from Tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'm fine on who we have. I think the chemistry is better this year. We need to look at OL and DB depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 He's too thuggish for my taste. That is exactly what our d-line needs... Carter is like Charles Mann - Quietly productive Suggs could be Dexter Manley - wrecking offenses and talking much trash in the process. Well, Dexter minus the off the field activities. We need someone along that line that is thuggish and nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 those are the good ones,and how funny that your top 3 FA's might not even be on the team next year if they don't restructure those super inflating contracts. and ditto for portis,who has an outrageous cap hit this upcoming season.......stupid spending like we've done puts us in situations where at the start of the 08 cap year were 20 million over were some teams are 40 million under.:hint: the team thats 40 million under went through their own cap hell,has refrained from signing big FA's and is currently 10-6. First, you said we learned our lesson....clearly FA has been good to us. We have had two bad signings and plenty of good ones. Secondly, the Skins play the cap differently then any other team...because...they can! They make twice as much money as any other franchise in net earnings. The cap can be crushed with owners willing to spend cash. We can be $28M under in 60 minutes and sign 3-4 studs w/o a problem. The draft has been great to us under Gibbs; however, you can easily build through both as you pointed out. Gibbs has done a great job with acquiring talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'd take Jared Allen or Justin Smith over Suggs anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 First, you said we learned our lesson....clearly FA has been good to us. We have had two bad signings and plenty of good ones. Secondly, the Skins play the cap differently then any other team...because...they can! They make twice as much money as any other franchise in net earnings. The cap can be crushed with owners willing to spend cash. We can be $28M under in 60 minutes and sign 3-4 studs w/o a problem. The draft has been great to us under Gibbs; however, you can easily build through both as you pointed out. Gibbs has done a great job with acquiring talent. cash over cap is a good method but shouldn't be used every year because if you get dumb with it and can bite you in the ass. and LAWL at getting 28 million under , we'll probably go under by a max 7-10 million and go under as need be. the more you go cash>cap the more guaranteed money you push onto the future cap. so yeah you go ahead and hope we sign those 3-4 studs and get 28 million under. because come 2010 we'd be 40 million OVER the cap. please don't debate with me your making me laugh,and I hope you don't have any credit cards. cash over cap is like paying a credit card with a credit card. it's a good remedy for the now but if you abuse it and keep doing it your gonna drop the soap and grab your ankles at one point in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Suggs would be great...but I'd prefer to get a FA CB like Asomungha or Trufant and look for DE in the draft as far as defense goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 we need some size at DE figuring that Phillip Daniels is likely going to be a cap casualty in the offseason and we have Carter at 265 at the other DE spot. inside at DT, I think we are going to be okay with the younger players we have on the roster. I am assuming we are going to restructure Griffin and bring him back for another 1-2 years. If not then we need to add depth here. I would resist the temptation to look to mega-bucks free agency to solve all problems that are apparent. Yes, the team did sign players in FA that have been leaders on defense. But remember that a number of these players such as Griffin, Washington and Fletcher were not 'break the bank' players, rather solid veterans who were paid solid money. Where the team has 'broken the bank' and offered an outsized contract we have gotten burned on players like Archuleta and the sign/trade for Brandon Lloyd. I want to see solid vets like Fletcher, Washington and Smoot added in the future, not guys looking to get paid the highest salary in the NFL at their positions. These guys rarely deliver value for that money. I would pass on Suggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Suggs is only 25, so it would be a great pickup if so. With McIntosh possibly out for the entire 2008 season, the Redskins would likely consider it with a certain amount of seriousness.I would have to imagine that Baltimore would make a pretty serious effort to keep him though. And I refuse to talk salary cap numbers until after the Super Bowl, but from what I understand, this is going to be a particularly tricky year in that area for the Skins. I'd love if Danny could work it out so we could snag him. Then when Rocky gets healthy we can run the 3-4 with Rocky, Suggs, Fletcher and MW That would be one of the most dangerous LB cores in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dheavy Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Why not try Alexander at DE. He seems pretty agile to me and he can move around pretty good. I'll still sign Suggs if we can work it into the salary cap. You would have to be stupid to not have this guy on your team. Football is a game of emotion and effort and Suggs brings it on every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingani Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 The Patriots were not far away, and so went out and signed ADALIUS THOMAS and Randy Moss and Wes Welker and look what happened. How about Terrrell Suggs, Chad Johnson, and drafting a cornerback with the first pick and a guard/center with the 2nd round pick. Thats all we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 cash over cap is a good method but shouldn't be used every year because if you get dumb with it and can bite you in the ass. and LAWL at getting 28 million under , we'll probably go under by a max 7-10 million and go under as need be. the more you go cash>cap the more guaranteed money you push onto the future cap. so yeah you go ahead and hope we sign those 3-4 studs and get 28 million under. because come 2010 we'd be 40 million OVER the cap. please don't debate with me your making me laugh,and I hope you don't have any credit cards. cash over cap is like paying a credit card with a credit card. it's a good remedy for the now but if you abuse it and keep doing it your gonna drop the soap and grab your ankles at one point in the future. I agree that we simply cannot spend and spend on FA's, but he skins have been able to solve their cap situation every year. JLC posted something on his blog recently that indicated that the skins will easily get under the cap come March. The team won't be able to spend big, but I bet they create enough room to get someone. Owners willing to spend the cash can solve some of the cap issues. I haven't seen a good thread on how the skins operate in at least year or so. Hopefully, one of the smart cap guys will provide one in the off-season explaining how cash can alleviate cap issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'd love if Danny could work it out so we could snag him. Then when Rocky gets healthy we can run the 3-4 with Rocky, Suggs, Fletcher and MW That would be one of the most dangerous LB cores in the nfl. Ther 3-4 requires a nose tackle. The Redskins do not have anyone that can play a true nose tackle in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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