Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 You gotta be kidding me.If this was any other coach posting these same results, you'd be calling for his head. This is a very talented team, there's no reason why we shouldn't be competing at the top...Gibbs' ultra conservative ways have cost us games this year. Ever take time to think that the old fartknockers on here who're praying that he signs it are still living in the 80's and can't separate themselves from the glory days? dead on my friend. imagine if this was some other coach, all these older posters would be comletely bludgeoning the guy, but because its legendary superbowl god joe gibbs, he gets a free pass for trotting out his underperforming team each year. completely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Microwave generation they want everything now, Superbowls take time to win. This is not fantasy football, this is real life. And all of you who were calling for Cowher are crazy. How long did it take for Cowher to win his 1st Superbowl in that weak division. Cowher is not worthy of holding Gibbs' clipboard, sign it Joe I know you'll take take us back. HTTR Yet another foolish statement from old-timers that misperceive our gripes. I don't care about the fact that we haven't won a superbowl, I just want someone that will maximize our chances of doing so. This team is poorly coached and the games are mismanaged. Is it so wrong to at least demand competence? To at least demand someone who can maxmize our chances of winning on any given sunday? I am furious with Gibbs because he costs us wins with his poor decisions and inability to adapt to the modern NFL. It isn't that we don't have the results that we want after 4 years, it's that he's no closer - MENTALLY - to being where he needs to be than he was 4 years ago. The entire fanbase and all of the players are suffering because HE can't get it together. THAT is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Stwasm, you know better than this. I count three games......NE, Philly, and Dallas....where the D hasn't held up its end of the bargain. For the most part of Gibbs II, we all know which side of the ball the blame lies. What about the FIRST Giants' game and the Buffalo game? When a defense is challenged with preserving the win, it's supposed to do so, and too many times it's failed. Yes, the offense has to score points. But, the defense has let us down on more occasions than you've named and it makes me question the wisdom of anointing Gregg Williams as the next head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 What about the FIRST Giants' game and the Buffalo game? When a defense is challenged with preserving the win, it's supposed to do so, and too many times it's failed. Yes, the offense has to score points. But, the defense has let us down on more occasions than you've named and it makes me question the wisdom of anointing Gregg Williams as the next head coach. Both the Buffalo and the Giants game are on Gibbs. Giants game - how many plays did we have to score that TD? Who called one of the worst series of plays I've ever seen in my short 25 year life? Joe Gibbs. Buffalo - how many points did we score in that game? Who sat on the lead and refused to go for first downs? Joe Gibbs. How many points did buffalo actually score? I think the D did a pretty good job in that one. After saying all that, I don't think we even need to mention the fact that Gibbs doesn't know the NFL rules and called two timeouts in a row, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 so gibbs was successful in a different NFL, yet he can still be effective in a newer faster NFL? dont follow. hes done nothing to prove he can be effective in this era. Nothing? How about our first playoff season since 1999 when this team was just about sunk. How about turning us into competitors? Where were we with Spurrier, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Gibbs hasn't cut it. Not even close. Amazing how people want a guy calling double timeouts, and being paid 5 million a year to do so.......to lead this team in the future. High school coaches know the rulebook better than Gibbs does. Nice guy, yes. So is my grandfather. That doesn't mean he needs to be within 100 miles of a football field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmile Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Please don't sign it. Please go away. I'd like a winning team one day. The old way of thinking will not win anything of significance in the modern NFL. How about you go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Truthfully, I hope Gibbs ends up like Joe Paterno. Stay forever. I feel a sense of comfort with him. I can't see him not signing this. After everything that happend to the team this year, this would be a good opportunity to boost moral for our organization. I expect to hear his answer before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Let Gibbs motivate, Let Saunders innovate Let Williams dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Since there seems to be a 50/50 mix on whether a contract extension is good or bad, I'd be interested in hearing potential replacement candidates and the reasons why they'll succeed where Gibbs has, in some minds anyway, seemingly failed. And if you're going to throw out a knee jerk response like Bill Cowher, for example, be prepared to defend your choice when you know that most of his staff has moved on to bigger and better things and won't likely be as easy to reassemble. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Will Gregg Williams look to head coach somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Is WIlliams happy being an assistanat for the next three years/?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Gibbs is signing an extension just so he wont be a lameduck. He will coach max 2 more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Please don't sign it. Please go away. I'd like a winning team one day. The old way of thinking will not win anything of significance in the modern NFL. Hey, we're on the door of our 2nd playoff in 3 years. Our team has NEVER had such YOUNG talent. I think the nay sayers need to look hard at this. I hate saying, "give it time," but just wait and see. Great things are in our future, and real soon at that. Come on buddy, stick with us now. We need everyone together on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Interesting how many people are happy that Gibbs is going to stay. After the Buffalo game it seemed like Gibbs vs. the World. I am very happy with the announcement. I hope Mr. Gibbs makes his own announcement with his intentions to stay for another 2 years. Go Skins!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hey, we're on the door of our 2nd playoff in 3 years. Our team has NEVER had such YOUNG talent. I think the nay sayers need to look hard at this. I hate saying, "give it time," but just wait and see. Great things are in our future, and real soon at that. Come on buddy, stick with us now. We need everyone together on this one. Oh, I'm not going anywhere. I root for them every week same as you, despite the fact that I don't like Gibbs. And I love the players on this team. But, I want a coach that will properly make use of that talent. Gibbs hasn't learned anything in 4 years, and he hasn't shown me anything to prove that he will. Someone with a better coaching philosophy (and better understanding of the NFLs rules) could easily do a better job running this team on gameday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Really now? Aside from that kind of statement getting very old, it's fairly stupid thing to say,(and this goes for other times this is said as well). So fans who don't believe as you and others and have different viewpoints about Joe Gibbs are suddenly not true fans? Fairly narrow minded don't ya think? You are right. That was dumb for me to state. But that is where I vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBFree76 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sign it but bring a GM in QFT x 1000Seriously, I love continuity, but why not pay a crapload of money to bring in a true GM? That just puzzles me to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 dead on my friend. imagine if this was some other coach, all these older posters would be comletely bludgeoning the guy, but because its legendary superbowl god joe gibbs, he gets a free pass for trotting out his underperforming team each year. completely insane. No, what's completely insane is despite all the injuries, despite the struggles this team has had to deal with, they are still playing tough and have a chance at a playoff shot. Where some teams probably would have packed it in already, the players are still fighting their guts out (sometimes literally.) Meanwhile, the Giants are doing their usual self destruct right now, and all they need to do is win one game. There are two sides to the heartbreaking losses this year. One one hand, it is frustrating that we let so many games slip through our fingers. On the other, you can see that for most of the games this season, we were only one or two plays away from wining those games. This team is close. Gibbs deserves to see it out. What about the FIRST Giants' game and the Buffalo game? When a defense is challenged with preserving the win, it's supposed to do so, and too many times it's failed. Yes, the offense has to score points. But, the defense has let us down on more occasions than you've named and it makes me question the wisdom of anointing Gregg Williams as the next head coach. Actually, that first Giants game is a prime example of a game that is truly on the offense. Fact is, the offense did NOTHING in the second half. Three straight three-and-outs and a lost fumble. As for the Buffalo game, the defense pretty much shut them down, despite the fact that the offense gave them the short field a few times. Considering that this defense was one of the worst defenses in the league, I give Williams a lot of credit for making this unit respectable again. I think he is deserving of consideration for HC once Gibbs steps down. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retire 21 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I wouldn't mind joe coming back, but with a slight change in stradagy (sp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Please don't sign it. Please go away. I'd like a winning team one day. The old way of thinking will not win anything of significance in the modern NFL. Heh, this is the bottom of the first page and I see that there are many pages. One can only wonder what awaits me on the other pages. But regardless, the thing that has impressed me about Joe this year is he's shown that he can change. We've seen the move to shotgun and no-huddle. We've seen that he's not afraid to try new things, albeit late in the year. If he holds to this trend into next year, I think we'll be ok. He needs to delegate more to his main other coaches, Saunders and Williams, and focus on his many other duties as HC and Team President. That should be plenty to keep him busy without getting his hands too dirty in the details of the O (not as worried about him interfering with D). I think he's moved towards this late this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 people get so excited about the potential of winning 9 games with gibbs sputtering out 90% of our victories. completely ridiculous. we will never be a convincing winner under gibbs II. What exactly do you want? "people get so excited about the potential of winning 9 games" - you were a fan in the 90s and early 2000s, right? You were here last year? The Redskins are slowly being transformed into a "new-era" NFL team. Granted it's slow. Joe is learning as he goes, I believe. But I believe he's learning. Do you want to be the Patriots? Of course, who doesn't want to be a dynasty. That's just not reasonable to expect though. I'll take "in playoff race late in the season" for now. I'd like to see some "stength/conditioning" staff changes though, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I'm not too excited at this point about a Gibbs extension. In fact I'm not crazy anymore about Williams taking over after either. I'd rather hire a GM and let him pick a young coach to take over. One who is more in tune with today's game and offenses. I want an aggressive coach not one who plays not to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I hope he stays only long enough to make a smooth transition to another coach who can fit in and build on what we have here. If Gibbs and the Skins need another 3 years to do it, fine. Honestly the extension sounds like a PR stunt or morale boosting vote of confidence to me. I just hope when Gibbs leaves for good, it's after a winning season (+500 record with at least one playoff game), he gets the praise and credit he deserves for bringing the franchise back to respectability (If we at least make the playoffs I'd say we're there now), and the Skins bring in a coach that can use the team we have without having to blow everything up and start from scratch (Spurrier's transition from smashmouth to fun-n-gun, dropping Davis for Canidate :doh: for example) I hope we keep Saunders and Williams too. Can I have that for my Christmas wish, Santa? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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