c4man5282 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Let me change this for you... I'd say it kind of goes in this order, but you need them all.1. SUPER Smarts 2. Toughness / Heart 3. Athleticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asnpcwiz Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I'd say it kind of goes in this order, but you need them all.1. Smarts 2. Toughness / Heart 3. Athleticism I know you didn't start the thread, but I'd say you are more on point with these three than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asnpcwiz Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 ESPN kissing thier @#%% No Redskins player has this going for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 4. Must have a short, hot woman with a flat head at home (you know, so you can put your beer on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Every football player should have.... Work ethic Desire to be the best Team first attitude Those would be the guys I'd want on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox59 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Actually Fox, this is for the most part, incorrect. At least according to the research I've read over the years about it. Research, both past and present, indicates that weightlifting and building muscle does not negatively affect flexibility. There is the possibility that short range of motions,(especially during contraction of the muscle) can do so, but that is more than likely due to the way the exercise is being done. If what you are saying is that improper lifting/building of muscle is what leads to the loss of flexibility I agree with you. That's part of it. The fact is that if you don't stretch properly while you are in training, especially muscle building training, you will lose your flexibility, even while you gain strength. I agree that the better tequenique you have the less flexibility you will lose, but if you arn't streching as a compliment to lifting you will become less limber. I guess I'd like to read your research, because it goes against what I've been taught (both professionally and threw personal experience). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 If what you are saying is that improper lifting/building of muscle is what leads to the loss of flexibility I agree with you. That's part of it. The fact is that if you don't stretch properly while you are in training, especially muscle building training, you will lose your flexibility, even while you gain strength. I agree that the better tequenique you have the less flexibility you will lose, but if you arn't streching as a compliment to lifting you will become less limber. I guess I'd like to read your research, because it goes against what I've been taught (both professionally and threw personal experience). Actually, no. That's not lifting improperly. Short range of motion lifting has been around for awhile and there's all kinds of back and forth about it actually working the muscles enough. Not improper by any means. And again, incorrect. Many of those same studies were done with those lifting doing so without stretching, (which makes sense if you think about it), and there was no loss of flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 A body, eyes that work, and a nice smile. He didnt ask what the 3 most important things were, for YOUR next date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTaylorisPiamp Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I'm the least flexible kid on my football team and qutie possibly my school and I have never been hurt playing a sport. The flexibility doesn't transfer over to my stength, im not that strong. However i'm the fastest person on the team, which doesn't make any sense with being the least flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I'm the least flexible kid on my football team and qutie possibly my school and I have never been hurt playing a sport. The flexibility doesn't transfer over to my stength, im not that strong. However i'm the fastest person on the team, which doesn't make any sense with being the least flexible. I had a similar experience at your age. I was fast, but not strong or flexible, yet I didn't suffer any leg injuries. However, when I entered my early twenties (and became heavier and stronger) I experienced a lot of hamstring injuries. Perhaps the lack of flexibility becomes a problem a little later for some athletes. I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 1. A contract with lots of guaranteed money, so you're rich even if you never produce again. 2. A side career in rap, so you have a profession when you never produce again. 3. Skills at Halo, so you have something to do when you're not playing in the NFL anymore. Skills in Madden would be more awesome than halo skills. Halo sucks the big one, give me a mouse n keyboard any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Every football player should have....Work ethic Desire to be the best Team first attitude Those would be the guys I'd want on my team. I would take: 1. Talent 2. Size 3. Speed I bet my team beats your scrappy little buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 - heart - a good head - coachability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 A hooker in each city.An understanding wife. A business manager who is not a "cousin." :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 What about a Brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxskinsville Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Mind Body Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflagg215 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Ok to set the record straight... There is no inverse relationship with strength and flexibility. There are also no studies that completely validate a decrease in injuries that can be attributed to an increase in flexibility. What has been found is that most injuries associated with muscle strains is due to a muscle imbalance. From what I have seen in my field of work is that most athletes, especially football players, there anterior chain (hipflexors, quads) of the lower body greatly overpowers their posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes.) This is for many reasons, one being the myth that free weight full ROM squats and deadlifts are "dangerous" and should not be done. In regards to the way the Redskins do it, we are talking about the NFL here. I work at a large Div 1 School and when I visited Redskins park I was blown away. They have the facilities and the staff to help prevent and treat any injuries. If you want to speculate why there were so many groin injuries during the Green Bay game, watch how Kampman rushes. He takes you far to the outside with his great lateral movement, and then breaks back across your face clubbing you underneath your shoulder pad. This is going to put alot of stress on a man who weighs 285+. Lineman are used to short choppy steps laterally, that large step and club that Kampman forces on them could hurt any lineman in the league, not just the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 1. Hard worker 2. Super smartness 3. Able to fight his guts out every Sunday. Sorry, I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Ok to set the record straight...There is no inverse relationship with strength and flexibility. There are also no studies that completely validate a decrease in injuries that can be attributed to an increase in flexibility. What has been found is that most injuries associated with muscle strains is due to a muscle imbalance. From what I have seen in my field of work is that most athletes, especially football players, there anterior chain (hipflexors, quads) of the lower body greatly overpowers their posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes.) This is for many reasons, one being the myth that free weight full ROM squats and deadlifts are "dangerous" and should not be done. In regards to the way the Redskins do it, we are talking about the NFL here. I work at a large Div 1 School and when I visited Redskins park I was blown away. They have the facilities and the staff to help prevent and treat any injuries. If you want to speculate why there were so many groin injuries during the Green Bay game, watch how Kampman rushes. He takes you far to the outside with his great lateral movement, and then breaks back across your face clubbing you underneath your shoulder pad. This is going to put alot of stress on a man who weighs 285+. Lineman are used to short choppy steps laterally, that large step and club that Kampman forces on them could hurt any lineman in the league, not just the Skins. Some folks in thread may be interested in reading this as well. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLWORLD Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Well, physical ability, mental capacity... etc... By far the one thing that can set 'em all apart... Is HEART! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNC-Skins Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 purple coach purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 isn't it amazing how durable the 1980's Redskins were? Dan Riley and the strength/conditioning program did a helluva job along with Beathard going out and finding the players. Don Warren - 14 years Monte Coleman - 15 years Raleigh McKenzie - 14 years Art Monk - 13 years Darrell Green - 20 years Joe Jacoby - 12 years Charles Mann - 11 years Mark May - 12 years (admittedly almost half with other teams) Jeff Bostic - 12 years Kurt Gouveia - 11 years (again, almost half with other teams) Keenan McCardell - 15 years ( all but 1991 with other teams) Even a guy like Ray Brown that we picked up in Plan B free agency from the Cardinals at age 26. He went on to play an ADDITIONAL 16 years in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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