terpskins Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It's not like college. I'm pretty sure professional athletes can do whatever they want. Training is a lifetime commitment. A better measure would be if guys seem gassed in the 4th. And how we play through the course of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meek Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Without taking a position on the merits of this thread, I think its important to point out that the intended target of this thread is John Hastings I believe, not Bubba Tyer. If Hastings is still the strength & conditioning coach then he would be the one responsible for getting the players prepared to do battle and Tyer is just there to step in when something goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hastings and 2 assistants. Pretty cut throat place we have here. Rash of of injuries like this? Sure. But there are probably several contributing factors in each case. Each injury a little different. No way to know without any type of first hand examination to really know what the problems could be. Oh hell. Let's fire somebody anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephGibbs Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Well according to Chris Cooley Today the Skins brought in a hamstring expert I'm not knocking you voicekiller because maybe cooley did say this (I guess I would be knocking cooley then, oh well) but as a physical therapist I would venture that there is not a hamstring expert, but maybe someone experienced specifically in this area who has credible research in muscular conditioning and stretching (duration of stretch, frequency, ect) As for the excessive amounts of strains, I would say this is just a coincidence although I agree that in the past few years they seem more prevalent. HTTR :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 We should fire our groundskeepers too. The field has been way too malicious this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangee7 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I was seriously wondering about our strength & conditioning program myself. For a couple of reasons..... 1) this year's rash of leg related injuries (I wonder anout the type of exercises and stretching) 2) Portis - his legs are huge and he seems like he's lost a step or more (he also stumbles a lot) All these injuries could be coincidence or they could be the result of something that's lacking. It might just be our year, but if I was heavily involved, I'd sure as heck start examining details like the training regimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangee7 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 .....A better measure would be if guys seem gassed in the 4th. And how we play through the course of the season. We do lose a lot of 2nd half leads....just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I'm not knocking you voicekiller because maybe cooley did say this (I guess I would be knocking cooley then, oh well) but as a physical therapist I would venture that there is not a hamstring expert, but maybe someone experienced specifically in this area who has credible research in muscular conditioning and stretching (duration of stretch, frequency, ect) As for the excessive amounts of strains, I would say this is just a coincidence although I agree that in the past few years they seem more prevalent.HTTR :helmet: Just saying what i heard him say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 How about you give it a shot, I mean since you know so much about athletic training and all. wow, what? Its THEIR job, I do agree I think Tyer isnt great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It's Scott Brunell's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 They were in one game mostly, you don't fire right then. He does need to realize our hamstring and groin injuries as of late and see what he can do to help rehabilitate those, but injuries can happen to anyone with any trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I would like to know the training program though, since BT has been here so long and new training techniques and facts have become known/put into practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I want to hunt you down and pound your ass. Fixt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 And the progression of ES retardation continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Actually I would say that the Groin Pulls/hamstring injuries can be attributed to our of shape players. This points again to the fact that we had a light training camp. It is astonishing that we dont have an indoor practice facility, where the team can get work in even though the weather isnt cooperating. Gibbs needs to get with the current times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Why would they fire Bubba? He's not our strength and conditioning coach, this guy is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hastings_(Trainer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSCNZ20 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 its not the trainer... fire the strenght and conditioning coach.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Why would they fire Bubba? He's not our strength and conditioning coach, this guy is:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hastings_(Trainer) Mentioned earlier in thread. Maybe this time it will stick. its not the trainer... fire the strenght and conditioning coach.. Just in case they didn't hear it the first or second times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Pease Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think the wet and cold conditions in Green Bay resulted in the number of injuries that we had. Slipping causes a person to not be in proper alignment and that causes these type of injuries. In hind sight we should have devoted extra time to trying to get everyone warmed-up; but that may not have avoided what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFanAnt Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 it may be a Snyder curse..there is no such thing as bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Emrys Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I don't think firing the trainer is the right move. Just get him to work on these guys conditioning more. Proper conditioning prevents these types of injuries, and the trainers know that. The problem is that more needs to be done in the offseason so that the players enter the season in great physical condition. Camp is too lax for that, and its too late to change that now. Its also not the trainer's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin Rush Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Try the SEARCH feature. There has already been a thread on this subject. MERGEAnd Im sure that Heyer slipping on a wet field and doing a split could have been avoided if we had a better trainer Actually if the trainer is in charge of what cleats we wear then it is his fault. But I think Gibbs bears the responsibility of making sure our trainers are inspecting the field and coming prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think one would normally chalk it up to it just being a coincidence, except isnt this pretty much the third year in a row weve just had a ton of injuries? Its just not normal. Though the NLF in general is seeing a lot more injuries this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Season Please! Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Well...even Bugle said he thought that all these pull ment they were doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe they finally need an indoor facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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