BALLz Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I don't know how they decide who gets them but will we get any picks after losing Dockery and Duckett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaSkinsNut Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 We signed Smoot and Fletcher, not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsevier Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192644&highlight=compensatory+picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbank31 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dockerys' contract is far more than Smoot and Fletcher put together. The formula has to do with where they were drafted, how much they play and the amount of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 The Redskins will never have compensatory picks. We take in more FA's than we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 The Redskins will never have compensatory picks. We take in more FA's than we lose. loose lips sink ships. lose players = compensatory picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 We will not recieve any compensatory picks, EVER! We always sign as many if not more than we lose. Even if we did our FO does not know how to draft outside of the top 10 so it would be a wasted pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 We might get a 7th or something. Probably not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 We will not recieve any compensatory picks, EVER!We always sign as many if not more than we lose. Even if we did our FO does not know how to draft outside of the top 10 so it would be a wasted pick anyway. We got a a couple, Cooley being the best our brightest gem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Rockefeller Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dockerys' contract is far more than Smoot and Fletcher put together. The formula has to do with where they were drafted, how much they play and the amount of the contract. It has nothing to do with where they were drafted, and if it is equal signed vs. equal lost, the contracts will cancel each other out despite the disparity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz_4_life Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 what about AA??? would we get something for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaps Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 we might get one if we are lucky and the planets line up and sing hail to the redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I would expect maybe a mid round selection. Smoot was cut by the Vikings so I don't believe that counts against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 We will not recieve any compensatory picks, EVER! We got a 6th rounder last year, which turned in to Golston. We have a good chance to get another one next year. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 We got a a couple, Cooley being the best our brightest gem Cooley was not a comp pick we traded up to nab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Google still works fine... COMPENSATORY DRAFT PICKS: Compensation awarded by the league to teams who lost more UFAs than they signed. Compensation is in the form of extra draft picks added to the end of rounds three through seven. The quantity of picks is equivalent to the difference of UFAs signed to UFAs lost. For example, if a team loses 4 UFAs and signs 1 UFA, they will receive three Compensatory Selections. The value of the picks is determined by the difference of the contracts signed by the players lost and those acquired. The highest possible compensatory pick is the 31st of the third round (91st overall). (probably changed to 33rd in the 3rd round) If a team has signed an equal number or more UFAs than it lost, no "Compensatory Picks" are awarded. Also the max is 4 comp picks awarded per team. FAs signed by other teams - Dock, Holdman, Duckett, Wright, Molinaro FAs signed by Washington - Fletcher, Macklin, Smoot, Stoutmire, Fabini We're not getting any comp picks for 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 FAs signed by other teams - Dock, Holdman, Duckett, Wright, Molinaro FAs signed by Washington - Fletcher, Macklin, Smoot, Stoutmire, Fabini We're not getting any comp picks for 2008. [/color][/b] Molinaro won't count in the formula and neither will Smoot or Fabini because they were cut by their previous teams so at this point the Skins are 4 lost and 4 gained [Fletcher Macklin Stoutmire and Tucker] so they're not due any comp picks in 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 what about Mike Rumph didn't he get signed? Or did we release him not a FA deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Molinaro won't count in the formula and neither will Smoot or Fabini because they were cut by their previous teams so at this point the Skins are 4 lost and 4 gained [Fletcher Macklin Stoutmire and Tucker] so they're not due any comp picks in 08. What happens if we cut one of those guys like Stoutmire or Macklin. Do they still count against us. If it does then it kinda seems like your better of not signing someone in FA if your not sure they will make it the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dockerys' contract is far more than Smoot and Fletcher put together. The formula has to do with where they were drafted, how much they play and the amount of the contract. Sorta...but not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Molinaro won't count in the formula and neither will Smoot or Fabini because they were cut by their previous teams so at this point the Skins are 4 lost and 4 gained [Fletcher Macklin Stoutmire and Tucker] so they're not due any comp picks in 08. I think contract size and tenure on the new team also factors into compensation as well. Considering the huge contract Dock signed, I do think we will get something. Maybe another 6th rounder. Macklin, Stoutmire and Tucker all signed for the minimum, and the later two are no lock to make the team. Meanwhile, Kenny Wright signed a 3 year deal with Cleveland, which suggests that it was probably more than just the minimum. Duckett got a 1 year 1.5m contract. So, yeah, I do think we will get compensation of some sort. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I think contract size and tenure on the new team also factors into compensation as well. Considering the huge contract Dock signed, I do think we will get something. Maybe another 6th rounder. You guys are wrong about the formula. It is heavily weighted toward contract. I suspect the Redskins will end up with a 4th or 5th. I doubt it will be a 6th or 7th. This is no joke... book it and call me out on this thread. If the Redskins don't make any more free agent spaces, they will get a 4th or 5th compensatory pick for Dock. Performance actually has very little to do with it... it's heavily weighted towards contract and games started. From this thread (second number is average contract amount): http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200611 THIRD ROUNDSan Diego (Drew Brees, $10.0 million, 16 Games Played/16 Games Started, Pro Bowl) San Francisco (Julian Peterson , $7.714 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl) Indianapolis (Edgerrin James, $7.5 million, 16/16) FOURTH ROUNDOakland (Charles Woodson, $5.576 million, 16/16) Pittsburgh (Chris Hope, $5.098 million, 16/16) Atlanta (Kevin Shaffer, $5.143 million, 16/16) Baltimore (Anthony Weaver, $5.3 million, 15/15) FIFTH ROUNDIndianapolis (David Thornton, $4.45 million, 16/13) Baltimore (Ma'ake Kemoeatu, $4.6 million, 16/14) Pittsburgh (Antwaan Randle El, $4.464 million, 16/16) New England (David Givens, $4.8 million, 5/5, placed on IR) Dock's contract was an average of $7 million, which would put the Redskins in line for a 3rd round pick, if they didn't sign any free agents. That is why I am guessing they will receive a 4th or 5th. I'm guessing Adalius Thomas and Nate Clements signed the largest FA contracts this year, followed by Dock (is this correct?). Baltimore will probably get the 3rd rounder. I can't remember if Leonard Davis counts, or if he was cut by Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Molinaro won't count in the formula and neither will Smoot or Fabini because they were cut by their previous teams so at this point the Skins are 4 lost and 4 gained [Fletcher Macklin Stoutmire and Tucker] so they're not due any comp picks in 08. Good pick-up. I thought about that later (some of them were released). Tucker wasn't in the NFL in 2006. So he doesn't count. Smoot was cut. Stoutmire counts. Fletcher counts. Macklin counts. Fabini was released by Dallas, so he doesn't count. Holdman, Dock, Duckett, Wright, And Molinaro were never released. They signed Fabini after Dallas picked-up Molinaro. So, 5 lost and 3 gained. So, it does look like we get 2 comp picks next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Good pick-up. I thought about that later (some of them were released).Tucker wasn't in the NFL in 2006. So he doesn't count. Smoot was cut. Stoutmire counts. Fletcher counts. Macklin counts. Fabini was released by Dallas, so he doesn't count. Holdman, Dock, Duckett, Wright, And Molinaro were never released. They signed Fabini after Dallas picked-up Molinaro. So, 5 lost and 3 gained. So, it does look like we get 2 comp picks next draft. You're right about Tucker but wrong about Molinaro. He only had 3 seasons in the NFL and didn't qualify yet to be a UFA. The Skins had the option to tender him as an RFA but chose not to so there is no comp for him. Also if Holdman or Wright signed for the vet minimum they might not even reach the threshold for comp in 08. They award the same number of total picks every year[32] so whether a team gets a 7th rd comp pick for a vet minimum player depends on the losses of other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 For more information to this thread. Dockery - $7M per year Duckett - $1.5M per year Holdman - $1.3M per year K. Wright - $0.8M per year ?? ~ $10.6M per year Fletcher - $5M per year Macklin - $1M per year ?? Stoutmire - $1M per year ?? ~ At least $7M per year Looks like the difference is about $3.6M, which actually puts it into the 6th or 5th. I over-estimated Macklin/Stoutmire and under-estimated Wright's numbers. I'm sold that it will be a 5th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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