Slateman Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 at first i thought we overpaid for them completelyrandle el signed a 7 year 30 mil lloyd signed 7 year 28 mil now i was looking though this years WRs signed Drew Bennett 6 years $30 million Wes Welker 7 years/$38.5 million by patriots so looking back we got a good deal on them because randle el would get $40+ mil contract this year and lloyd would get $35ish mil not to mention lloyd and randle el are much younger then bennett and welker. Drew Bennett > Loyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Drew Bennett > Loyd we gave lloyd the contract when he was 24 years old bennett is turning 29 can u honestly say lloyd will not become a good Wr in the future? hes got great upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 You are kidding right?! Bradon Llyod was paid huge money, and we gave up a draft round choice for him. Would prefer we spent that money on a BIG receive - Keyshawn Johnson, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I don't know. To me he just looks like a small version of TO with less skill and durability. If we were going to sign a team cancer then go get the real thing. TO at least puts up numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Brandon Lloyd has played one year for us and got frustrated when we were losing - hardly a "cancer". Maybe we should wait until he's in an offense that has a QB that has the ability to throw the ball all over the field and has gotten his timing down with said QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 we gave lloyd the contract when he was 24 years oldbennett is turning 29 can u honestly say lloyd will not become a good Wr in the future? hes got great upside That and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee at Starschmucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Man, the LLoyd haters are not shy! I think Brandon is going to be a huge player for us. Early in the year he didn't have Brunell's confidence and Mark would refuse to go downfield. With Campbell in they never seemed to get on the same page and when he lost his temper in the ATL game his snaps were cut down. I don't care what anyone says, I'm glad that he's passionate. He got paid and he could be just collecting his checks, but he wants to win. I'm not going to hate on a guy for that. It's best for LLoyd and the Redskins that he turns it around this year. Every year there is a whipping boy or two. New offensive system, new QB, new WRs... let's reserve judgement until they have one offseason together to build some cohesion. It's quite likely that Brandon's best years are ahead of him. I agree with the original poster, he'll likely be a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 A better question is how does a wr worth $50 million get "stuck behind a bunch of other receivers" to begin with lol... How about an 8 year vet and a WR who the team gave up a 1st round pick for? So Burleson had half the numbers and twice the salary and you're making excuses for him? Classic. :laugh: Burleson had 1157 total yards (receiving + returning) thats more than Lloyd has done here. Also lets not forget he had 1000 receiving yards and 9 tds just 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoyaSkins28 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 randel el signed a 7-year 31-million, with wes welker who is mainly a return man signing for 7-$38 he look like geniuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally3814 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 randel el signed a 7-year 31-million, with wes welker who is mainly a return man signing for 7-$38 he look like geniuses Welker had 68 catches last year, I'd like to think ARE will get close to that this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 You'll be surprised how good Wes Welker is when he gets playing time. please, he's a kick returner, special teams star. nothing more. I really question the Patriots' move to poison pill a contract over a damn kick returner. since when did they become free agent whores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 at first i thought we overpaid for them completelyrandle el signed a 7 year 30 mil lloyd signed 7 year 28 mil now i was looking though this years WRs signed Drew Bennett 6 years $30 million Wes Welker 7 years/$38.5 million by patriots so looking back we got a good deal on them because randle el would get $40+ mil contract this year and lloyd would get $35ish mil not to mention lloyd and randle el are much younger then bennett and welker. both el and lloyed are #3 type WRs. Bennett is a legit #2 and can be a #1.although he has had injury issues. welker outperformed lloyd and el combined!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveWarrior Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I don't think one can decide whether they overpaid for ARE and BL by comparing their contracts to those of other players. I think it's determined by what you get for your investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk4theHall81 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Makes everyone feel better about what were doing around here, great post mayne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0mega Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 at first i thought we overpaid for them completelyrandle el signed a 7 year 30 mil lloyd signed 7 year 28 mil now i was looking though this years WRs signed Drew Bennett 6 years $30 million Wes Welker 7 years/$38.5 million by patriots so looking back we got a good deal on them because randle el would get $40+ mil contract this year and lloyd would get $35ish mil not to mention lloyd and randle el are much younger then bennett and welker. We didn't overpay for them last year, based on THIS years market.?. Great logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusism Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 People look at the big number and freak out everytime. The important # is the bonus amount because that's what is paid up front and that is what is prorated over the length of the deal.Randle El costs about 2.5 mil against the cap (on average) until 2011. Do you think he is a $2.5 mil type player? I certainly do. Even Clements deal which is the richest in NFL history is costing the 49ers about $4 mil on average per year until 2011/12 in which case he will either be out of the league or redoing the deal again. You have to keep in mind the nature of how these contracts are written. The total contact number is just smoke and mirrors. Back to the point about Randle El and Lloyd.. both guys are about 2.5 mil per year on average so well worth it. Are you sure that $4 million a year for Clements is right? That seems awfully low, are you counting both his prorated signing bonus AND his yearly salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Lover Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Good post. It helps to put things in perspective. Go Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor From DA U Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 im buying that randel el was paid the right amout because atleast we dont have to hold our breath when somebody punts to us...but not sold on lloyd he needs to show me more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsMarchingBand Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Wes Welker is the man, just you wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Wes Welker is the man, just you wait. reggie wayne signed a 6 year 40 mil deal wes welker signed a 7 year 38 mil deal chad johnson has a 6 year 32 mil deal ur telling me they didt overpay for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Every WR mentioned in the first post is twice as good as Brandon Lloyd will ever be. Randle El is worth the money because he works hard and is versatile. :doh: You can't be "cereal"! First of all Randle El is not only a VERY good WR, but an excellent return guy. Secondly, while I'm no exactly in Lloyd's corner right now with everything that's been going on, he is still an incredable receiver, capable of making some amazing catches. Just relax and let everbody mesh together. It will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 at first i thought we overpaid for them completelyrandle el signed a 7 year 30 mil lloyd signed 7 year 28 mil now i was looking though this years WRs signed Drew Bennett 6 years $30 million Wes Welker 7 years/$38.5 million by patriots so looking back we got a good deal on them because randle el would get $40+ mil contract this year and lloyd would get $35ish mil not to mention lloyd and randle el are much younger then bennett and welker. Lloyd had like 20 catches lat year. He was overpaid. And AER was brought in to be the 3rd wr, that's too much money for a 3rd WR. Now, if he ends up being the starter and gets like 50-60 balls, Id say it was a good price. Same goes for Lloyd. However their production last year was not up to the contract they signed. So we did overpay, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Are you sure that $4 million a year for Clements is right? That seems awfully low, are you counting both his prorated signing bonus AND his yearly salary? I'm guesstimating but I'm close enough to make the point. His bonus alone counts $3.14 against the cap every year, and for the first 3-4 years the base salary is very low. Randle El and Lloyd are going to end up to be steals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinpride1 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Randle yes!!!!Brandon will be determined this year diid not see it last year!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Lloyd had like 20 catches lat year. He was overpaid. And AER was brought in to be the 3rd wr, that's too much money for a 3rd WR. Now, if he ends up being the starter and gets like 50-60 balls, Id say it was a good price. Same goes for Lloyd. However their production last year was not up to the contract they signed. So we did overpay, period. I see and understand the point you are making, however; the quality player that both Lloyd and Randle El are requires you spend money on them. Sure Lloyd was a dissapointment this year, but I do think that his production will sky rocket this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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