DRSmith Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Williams? Who are you talking about? We have one real pass rusher in Carter (who really did come on well in the latter half of the season). Daniels is 33 years old and doesn't really have enough left in him to get to the QB without help. That is why I want to pick up Jamaal Anderson. He is young, big, fast, and good against the run as well as pass rushing. Williams was just brought in from the CFL, we have 2 good back ups in Wynn and Daniels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HowAboutThemSkins Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I understand what all of you are saying right. Forget Safety, we need a damn pass-rushing DE or a run-stopping DT! I totally understand what you are saying and that is exactly what we need. But the most glaring problem with out defense this year was not a lack of sacks or pass rush- IT WAS A LACK OF TURNOVERS. Dline, for the most part, does not generate turnovers, although they can help force them. That is why we need to trade down and draft Reggie Nelson-the ball hawking safety from Florida. You are wrong headed. Thank goodness you are not on the Redskins draft team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Has not Chip Cox been brought in as a safety? He also doubled up as a LB at times too, was good in pass coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 maybe that DE we signed will be good, the one who played at da U with taylor moss and portis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekdude Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Williams? Who are you talking about? We have one real pass rusher in Carter (who really did come on well in the latter half of the season). Daniels is 33 years old and doesn't really have enough left in him to get to the QB without help. That is why I want to pick up Jamaal Anderson. He is young, big, fast, and good against the run as well as pass rushing. Im all with ya buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Williams was just brought in from the CFL, we have 2 good back ups in Wynn and Daniels. Oh you mean Chris Wilson, not Williams. So...uh...how is he a solid pass rusher? He is a major 'tweener at 6'4 and only 240...that is light for that height. Sure he had 8 sacks in the CFL, but that isn't the NFL. At that weight he'll get thrown around like a rag doll. Wynn and Daniels are decent backups but none of the 3 of these guys are impact players. I'd much rather draft Anderson who is 6'6 280 and very quick for his size (I believe I read that he runs a 4.6). Then we could potentially have an impact pass rusher and run stopper on the other side of Carter for many years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Rushing the QB leads to bad throws- even carlos rogers could catch a field-goal type pass thrown to nobody. Or could he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 If you get pressure on the QB, he'll make bad passes. If he makes bad passes, the rest of the defense will intercept the ball. Carlos is really the only guy who had legit shots at interceptions this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 This defense needs to go back to stuffing the run. This is why im for Anderson or Branch. Anderson could be the impact player we need. He can help against both the run and pass. You can put me at safety and I can do well with a nasty pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Watching the Seahawks/Bears game you really see what an impact Lb can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackOps Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 This defense needs to go back to stuffing the run. This is why im for Anderson or Branch. Anderson could be the impact player we need. He can help against both the run and pass. You can put me at safety and I can do well with a nasty pass rush. Wouldn't you rather trade down and get 20 year old Amobi Okoye and end up picking a defensive end in the second round? I really don't understand why nobody is like Okoye. He's smaller than Branch, yes, but Branch is not a pass rusher at all. If anybody watched the Lville/Wake game you'd know what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miragv Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 no thanks its clear that a dline makes the defense. if you can generate some sort of pressure by just rushing 4 and dropping everyone else back in pass coverage the turnovers will come....trust me you can have the best secondary out there but if the receivers have time to get open, they will get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I agree with trading down to get more picks, but I wouldn't waste them on a safety. I'm confident that a healthy Prioleau will start next year and do fine. If we can find a way to get Arch back in the fold, that would be good too. I think Reed Doughty could turn out to be our new Mark Murphy. Not very spectacular, but he got the job done. Then use our picks on the best D-linemen & LB's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammsteinSkins Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Get Lamarr Woodley or Adam Carriker in the first round then Marcus Macauley in the second and put macualey as the third corner plain and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 we already have the ball hawking, play making safety. now, we need guys up front to force the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I understand your thinking BB however, I think your logic is flawed. The NFL is a passing game nowadays. The rules are set up to favor receivers over DBs. Even if we filled our entire defensive backfield with pro-bowlers the results would only be marginally better than what we experienced this season. If you give any decent QB and receiver combo enough time in the NFL someone is going to get open and you're going to get picked apart. FWIW try re-reading the following: http://extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3376752&postcount=90 http://extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3376901&postcount=103 ....oh heck, just re-read the whole thread. There was a lot of great commentary on the relative importance of pass rush vs. coverage in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 I understand your thinking BB however, I think your logic is flawed. The NFL is a passing game nowadays. The rules are set up to favor receivers over DBs. Even if we filled our entire defensive backfield with pro-bowlers the results would only be marginally better than what we experienced this season. If you give any decent QB and receiver combo enough time in the NFL someone is going to get open and you're going to get picked apart.FWIW try re-reading the following: http://extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3376752&postcount=90 http://extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3376901&postcount=103 ....oh heck, just re-read the whole thread. There was a lot of great commentary on the relative importance of pass rush vs. coverage in that thread. Thanks man...i appreciate it. But im just salivating at the thought of having Sean Taylor and Reggie Nelson. I may be wrong in the redskins draft strategy, but all of you have to agree that ST and Reggie would be absolutely nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 No we don't. The type of safety we need, if we even need one, is an NFL veteran who can help Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Understably..but you still need safeties who can make some plays. We only have on right now..and he didnt make that many this year. Reggie Nelson can help solve that problem. You do realise it's alot easier to do that when your pressure\ing the QB constantly and stuffing the run. Forcing a QB into 3rd and long with a consistent pass rush that doesnt rely on blitzing guys is what creates the turnovers. Lets put it this way. You have Manning sitting back with all day to throw, even with a blitz, even Ed Reed is going to look like AA. And vise-versa, if we can bring the heat with 4 guys consitently and create havoc with 5, ST looks like Reed. And AA looks like a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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