Dirk Diggler Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201192.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 please label it part 3 of the LaConfora piece plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Can't believe this wasn't posted yet, but I looked & didn't see it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201192.html THE LOST SEASON: A Drop in Performance Coordinator Assumes Old Defensive Crouch Some Blame Arrogance for Redskins' Struggles. For Williams, It's a Familiar Battle of Perception. By Les Carpenter Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, January 3, 2007; Page E01 As a young man growing up in the Kansas City suburb of Excelsior Springs, Mo., he was always the most important athlete -- the quarterback, the pitcher, the point guard. This mattered to Gregg Williams because each role came with prestige, a trust in his leadership that was implicit even if those outside the game never understood the subtleties of his charge. And yet these were the ones he worried about, the ones who saw him hanging around the locker room every day, sized him up in his cleats and dismissed him with the phrase he hated most. "Dumb jock." The Washington Redskins' assistant head coach for defense, the man who holds the option of being the next head coach when Joe Gibbs leaves, carries the scar left from those two words. He refers to it as "a chip on my shoulder." He says this one night last week as he sits in his corner office at Redskins Park with the blinds pulled down, surrounded by tidy shelves of binders and notebooks. His desktop is impeccable, scrubbed gleaming clean with prim piles of books and papers. If a machine playing game tapes didn't sit on a shelf behind him, you might think he doesn't even use this desk. Click on link for rest of article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 hmmmm so it was greg williams who wanted gibbs to get saunders i dont blame gibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsand521 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Wow. That's a pretty informative article. And at 5 pages long it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 But a story appeared on ESPN.com in November quoting an anonymous player, believed by many in the Redskins organization to be safety Adam Archuleta -- I knew it was Archuleta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'll have to read it tomorrow. These pieces that Canfora has been writing for the past few days have been very informative, and shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 But Pierce became a free agent two years ago and left for the New York Giants in part, some around the team believe, because Williams thought he was expendable. One coach with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution said he doesn't believe Williams told Redskins owner Daniel Snyder that Pierce was irreplaceable. Had he done so, the coach said, Snyder probably would have matched the Giants' offer. tell me what's wrong with that quote and you can understand why you can take these articles with a grain of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 hmmmm so it was greg williams who wanted gibbs to get saundersi dont blame gibbs The way it reads - Greg Williams had Saunders on his short list if he (GW) ever became a head coach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hervoicehoneyed Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 hmmmm so it was greg williams who wanted gibbs to get saundersi dont blame gibbs :doh: Reading comprehension is your friend: "A few days later, Gibbs walked into Williams's office and said he had hired Saunders, shocking Williams, who never knew the Redskins were courting him." Gibbs hired Saunders in part because of the positive dossier Williams had on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Wu Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Another great, great article from the Post I know people ride them, but they have been putting out the greatest articles these past two seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGibbsThickandthin Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I knew it was Archuleta. I said it was Arch a 100 times. Someone told me. And Byner is another leak. The sad thing is Byner is on the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Another good article by JLC. Hopefully GW will learn from this year -- sometimes you gotta kicked down a notch or two in life. I am a little sick of the excuses though. This whole Saunders offense hurt the d thing only goes so far -- there were plenty of sustained drives the second half of the season. Even with plenty of rest, the d could rarely stop anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I said it was Arch a 100 times. Someone told me. And Byner is another leak.The sad thing is Byner is on the coaching staff. It is sad. Then again, if I was Byner and watched the front office (which includes the head coach) make the same damn idiotic moves over and over I'd probably want to do a little leaking as well. Hopefully something good will come from all this public airing of dirty laundry. Maybe it will actually convince Danny and Joe that something is horribly broken and needs to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hervoicehoneyed Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 tell me what's wrong with that quoteand you can understand why you can take these articles with a grain of salt Regardless of how someone judges the use of anonymous sources, the whole article wasn't entirely composed from them. Unless, of course, all the quotes were completely fabricated, which would be a baffling move for a journalist presumably interested in the advancement of his career. Anyways, I thought it was a great article and very fair to Gregg Williams. It actually makes me feel confident that he is interested in correcting his errors to prove that he can still a run a respectable defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8jacket Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Pretty wierd, so much drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hmmm...When the offense started rolling at the end of the season, there were still problems on the defense. Not sure the "3-and-Out offense caused poor defense" excuse totally clears the air for me. It's an interesting article, but not really illuminating with exception to William's persona. This was by Les Carpenter with LaCanf as contributor...Howard Bryant did yesterday's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Let's hope that the Cardinals hire Williams to be HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGibbsThickandthin Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 It is sad. Then again, if I was Byner and watched the front office (which includes the head coach) make the same damn idiotic moves over and over I'd probably want to do a little leaking as well. Hopefully something good will come from all this public airing of dirty laundry. Maybe it will actually convince Danny and Joe that something is horribly broken and needs to be fixed. Byner will not be back. His contract is up. And Gibbs does not talk to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I said it was Arch a 100 times. Someone told me. And Byner is another leak.The sad thing is Byner is on the coaching staff. That stinks that Byner won't be back. He REALLY helped Clinton and Ladell to become much better backs. I bet the trade for Duckett really PO'd him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think this article and Portis speaking out tells us what type of season we are going to have next year.Lets face it guys this team sucks and our coaching staff is why.I starting to think its not Snyders fault.The only thing you can fault him for is the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grundle Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 My opinion changes with each new article that comes out. I am a lemming. A slave to the media. Damn it all. Anyway...I like Greg Williams again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 But Pierce became a free agent two years ago and left for the New York Giants in part, some around the team believe, because Williams thought he was expendable. One coach with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution said he doesn't believe Williams told Redskins owner Daniel Snyder that Pierce was irreplaceable. Had he done so, the coach said, Snyder probably would have matched the Giants' offer. Well at least i have a reason why we let Pierce go now.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 My opinion changes with each new article that comes out. I am a lemming. A slave to the media. Damn it all. Anyway...I like Greg Williams again. You like him again i am seeing a lot of bad things in here.Did you read the whole 5 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 My opinion changes with each new article that comes out. I am a lemming. A slave to the media. Damn it all. Anyway...I like Greg Williams again. I fall in that category too >_>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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