skins0128 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Nick's Gone Skins just cut Nick. I feel bad for the dude. He's a great kid, but he just wasn't getting it done. he says he saw it coming and took full responsibility for it. I'd love to see him at least get a gig in NFL Europe somehere, and with a lot of these guys it takes shuffling around a while before they stick. I hope that's the case with him. Nick says he may stick around thise area and keep working out here ont he off chance another NFL gig opens up, but it's pretty late in the game. Eventually, he'll go back to Indiana, where his parents live now. They plan to look at Suisham for the rest of the year, and then we'll see where they go with kicker in the future. I'm still bafled they didn;t address it with a veteran last offseason. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallntfox Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So long Nick. Work on those kickoffs and accuracy and maybe you'll get another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He's an underdog and you gotta love the underdog, best of luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Nick's GoneSkins just cut Nick. I feel bad for the dude. He's a great kid, but he just wasn't getting it done. he says he saw it coming and took full responsibility for it. I'd love to see him at least get a gig in NFL Europe somehere, and with a lot of these guys it takes shuffling around a while before they stick. I hope that's the case with him. Nick says he may stick around thise area and keep working out here ont he off chance another NFL gig opens up, but it's pretty late in the game. Eventually, he'll go back to Indiana, where his parents live now. They plan to look at Suisham for the rest of the year, and then we'll see where they go with kicker in the future. I'm still bafled they didn;t address it with a veteran last offseason. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/ If you don't produce then you are gone, except when talking about Warrick Foldman. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 don't be baffled by it. Gibbs sticking with Hall is the same blind loyalty that got us in trouble with Brunell. Gibbs loves his veterans, the problem is he continues to love them even after they stop performing for him. that is the one difference from when he was here the first time. He loved theismann and Riggins and guys like Neal Olkewicz, etc. but when it was time for them to go, other players came in and took their place. Seemingly, he has gotten nostalgic as he has gotten older and doesn't seem to have that cutting edge that Vermeil and Parcells still seemed to have after they turned 60. I am in full agreement with Brian Mitchell and Charles Mann that this is not the same Gibbs they remember. Training camp is easier. Practice is shorter. The string on guys who are not performing is much longer. Overall it's not a good picture that's being painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Worthy Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So that leaves a spot on the Practice squad open correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Emrys Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Later Nick, thanks for your game winning kick against the cowsluts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins0128 Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Not baffled by it bulldog, I just put the question mark in the title due to the fact that it was an official announcement from the team. Just a blurb in Jason's blog. 5-10 will get you cut on any NFL team, especially when your kickoffs are short as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 thank god hes gone.. no more love because hes from UMD.. the guy plain sucked and every kick i was not sure if it would be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 don't be baffled by it. Gibbs sticking with Hall is the same blind loyalty that got us in trouble with Brunell. Gibbs loves his veterans, the problem is he continues to love them even after they stop performing for him. It isn't blind loyalty. It is the reality that, when healthy, Hall was a damn good kicker, and that the injuries seemed to be rather flukeish. I'm sure he was depending on the word of the training staff to make his decision and he decided to roll the dice one more time. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It could be worse. We could have given Vandy a huge contract. At least we will save some money by getting rid of Hall. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't see groin/hamstring injuries consistently recurring over 3 seasons as being flukes for a kicker, especially one that is 32 or 33 years old. In fact the recurring groin injury (usually exacerbated on kickoffs) was what ended Brett Conway's career in the NFL. The reality is that Hall had not been in prime form since Spurrier was here. Go back and figure out how many other players have been in and out the turnstyles at Redskins Park in that time at other positions. A move here was long overdue. Jason LaCanfora blogged that more than a few people thought Tyler Jones had outkicked Hall in preseason this year but that Gibbs ignored those results and figured that the veteran would perform once the real games started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallntfox Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't see groin/hamstring injuries consistently recurring over 3 seasons as being flukes for a kicker, especially one that is 32 or 33 years old. In fact the recurring groin injury (usually exacerbated on kickoffs) was what ended Brett Conway's career in the NFL. The reality is that Hall had not been in prime form since Spurrier was here. Go back and figure out how many other players have been in and out the turnstyles at Redskins Park in that time at other positions. A move here was long overdue. Jason LaCanfora blogged that more than a few people thought Tyler Jones had outkicked Hall in preseason this year but that Gibbs ignored those results and figured that the veteran would perform once the real games started. Has Tyler Jones been picked up by anyone? Didn't he compete with Novak when Hall went on IR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 don't be baffled by it. Gibbs sticking with Hall is the same blind loyalty that got us in trouble with Brunell. Gibbs loves his veterans, the problem is he continues to love them even after they stop performing for him. that is the one difference from when he was here the first time. He loved theismann and Riggins and guys like Neal Olkewicz, etc. but when it was time for them to go, other players came in and took their place. Seemingly, he has gotten nostalgic as he has gotten older and doesn't seem to have that cutting edge that Vermeil and Parcells still seemed to have after they turned 60. I am willing to think some of it is blind loyality, Bulldog, but I have to think that some of it is the changes to the NFL system too. Remember, Gibbs was the master of stashing guys on IR year after year while the continued to work with the coaches. By the time he needed them to take the place of an established vet on the backside of his career, they were ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFanatic Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Thanks for the memories Nick but what have you done for us lately OooohOooohOooohYeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I hear they're bringing in Steve Blake later this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Has Tyler Jones been picked up by anyone? Didn't he compete with Novak when Hall went on IR? He may have... I don't think the point is that he's the answer, the point was probably that Hall should never have been our kicker to start the season. Personally, Suisham is fine for the last 4 games. He kicks off to the 5 or so and had plenty of leg on that 50-yarder yesterday. His kicks aren't going to keep us from making the playoffs or anything, so what's the harm? Maybe he'll become something special in the next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLEED-B&G Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He gave it his best shot and we gave him every opportunity, he can't be mad to be cut. I hate having to deal with uncertainty at the kicker position. Considering how our offense performed last year one would assume the FO would make it a priority to get that nailed down. Yea I know I know, John Hall, but if you have any other player who goes down two years in a row you are going to find someone who can replace him and we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Oh so we cut the limp legged loser from MD.. I'm sure many o mancrushed hearts are bleeding.. Pathetic so much love for a guy who couldn't kick for ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altair4 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So long, and Thanks for the Dallas WIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So long Nick. Work on those kickoffs and accuracy and maybe you'll get another shot. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRick Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 what's so great about Nick Novak? Was there an article about him and his character of something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailRiggoRanger Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 what's so great about Nick Novak? Was there an article about him and his character of something? Nick Novak wasn't great. In fact, he sucked. But, he was from Maryland, and there were no less than 10,000 man crushes on him on this board. There's many a heart-broken ES man crusher today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 It isn't blind loyalty. It is the reality that, when healthy, Hall was a damn good kicker, and that the injuries seemed to be rather flukeish. I'm sure he was depending on the word of the training staff to make his decision and he decided to roll the dice one more time. Unfortunately, it didn't work out.It could be worse. We could have given Vandy a huge contract. At least we will save some money by getting rid of Hall. Jason Saying "When Hall is healthy," is like saying "When it snows in Miami," :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 what's so great about Nick Novak? Was there an article about him and his character of something? Fights his and his teammates guts out, Supersmart.....UMD, John Halls replacement = Redskins love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooleyNaMean Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 When I say Josh, you say Brown. JOSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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