NoCalMike Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Similar situation in Dallas. Bledsoe was not playing GREAT, but the team was a winning team or no less then .500 this season, yet Parcells recognized that for all the good things Bledsoe brought, it was what he wasn't doing that was hurting the team. I don't believe it is "all brunell's fault" but I do think he is doing or not doing enough to warrant being benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Chang Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Tough to argue against this. I don't see any other team that throws two consecutive swing passes and gets drilled on both of them. Why? The coaches know that we cannot throw the ball down the field. At least we'd be an average midget football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Too bad Brunell still won't be benched after this game. Its obvious that he has nothing left in the tank. I have been riding this dead horse since last december, he's too old and beat up to play productive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I dont think anybody is going to support starting Brunell. But there is a difference in us and Dallas. They actually have a defense that shows up for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 That INT today should seal Brunell's fate. Parcells also didn't bench Bledsoe right away - it had to come to a point when Bledsoe was just that bad and when Romo sits to pee was good enough to be ready. I think we're at that point now. It's not all Brunell, but it's gotten to a point where it's mostly Brunell. Campbell also has to be good enough to step in. We'll find out pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Brunell has been done being a real QB for several seasons. Last year he just pulled a "Trent Dilfer 2000" and rode Portis and a great OL to the playoffs where Brunell quickly had the least productive game in NFL history. He sucks, has sucked since before Leftwich was drafted, and will continue to suck while collecting the majority of a 40+ mil contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and the Poke's D is ranked where? :thumbsup: and the pokes are 1-2 the past 3 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I can only hope that the coaches realize that the best thing to do at 3-6 (with no downfield passing game and a struggling defense) would be to play Campbell and some other young players for the final 7 games. We can make the most out of having 7 full-speed exhibition games to get some young talent ready for next year. Let Saunders take FULL control of the Campbell-led offense and do everything you can to expose him to everything this year and get in a rhythm with some players he'll be playing with next year. Then we can hope that we have some young players up to speed to start the 2007 season. Play for the future and go ahead and establish something longer-term. Then this offseason, draft and acquire some line depth/starters (both offense and defense). We have the skill positions all set with younger players (Portis, Betts, Moss, Randle-El, Lloyd, Cooley) and we'll be getting some guys back from injury (Prioleau) which should shore up the secondary. With improved line play, another year under Saunders with no restrictions, and the infusion of some young talent, we should be in a much better position to compete next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and the Poke's D is ranked where?:thumbsup: and the pokes are 1-2 the past 3 games Apparently defense doesnt matter Bubba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and the Poke's D is ranked where?:thumbsup: and the pokes are 1-2 the past 3 games and their defense is 5th in the league, and they are now 5-4 after the win against the Cards, and tied for 2nd in the east, with a qb that can get it done. :thumbsup: As much as I hate them, Parcells deserves credit for actually having balls and putting in a qb when a change was needed, unlike Gibbs...................... :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and their defense is 5th in the league, and they are now 5-4 after the win against the Cards, and tied for 2nd in the east, with a qb that can get it done. :thumbsup: As much as I hate them, Parcells deserves credit for actually having balls and putting in a qb when a change was needed, unlike Gibbs...................... :mad: How many turnovers did the pokes force today? The announcers said earlier that they have 90 points off of turnovers 2nd in the league. Wanna guess where we are in that catagory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 My support for Brunell is officially over. We need to demand that Cambell starts for the rest of the season!!! I hope the media can drill Gibbs this week because he has a lot of questions to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nneece Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and the Poke's D is ranked where?:thumbsup: and the pokes are 1-2 the past 3 games So, Bubba, are you saying that if our D was ranked the same as Dallas's D our Win-Loss would be much improved? Some turnovers from the D would certainly help, but there is no way that Brunell stands in there and continues to throw the lame screen passes behind the line of scrimmage and the Redskins win games. Come on, you would have to be an idiot to think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 My support for Brunell is officially over. We need to demand that Cambell starts for the rest of the season!!! I hope the media can drill Gibbs this week because he has a lot of questions to answer. You guys crack me up. Gibbs doesnt give a rats ass about what the media thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Gibbs loyalty had turned into stupid arrogance. He refuses to adjust to the newer NFL, and thinks his old ways will work in 2006. News Flash! Your a loser Joe, losers end up being fired. To think somehow "staying the course" will somehow work out, WRONG. You are about to have one of the worst seasons in Redskins history, it's time to change things sir. You are alienating the fans, and support will soon be at an all time low. It's your future, what are you going to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 So, Bubba, are you saying that if our D was ranked the same as Dallas's D our Win-Loss would be much improved? Some turnovers from the D would certainly help, but there is no way that Brunell stands in their and continues to throw the lame screen passes behind the line of scrimmage and the Redskins win games. Come on, you would have to be an idiot to think that. If the defense bothered to show up wed be right at 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomK Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Even on TV you could see Brunell miss a wide open Lloyd a few times today. Granted he was being rushed hard, but as I have Sunday Ticket and that happens to every QB in the league. The successful ones hit the open guy. After doing that a few times the rush dies down. We need to make a change just to make a change. Plus, lets see if Campbell has what it takes. Better to find out now if he doesn't have it than suffering with it next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_99 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Its all about blame, the owners need to shake things up to save them from a failed investment from the "git-go" and that is over M. Saunders and his 700 page play book. If Mr Gibbs were to step back into the actual coaching and removed M. Saunders from the management of the offense, the Redskins stats would be fantastic right now. Review Mondays Washington Post for more details concering the changes that have happened within the team. What good is a playbook and Millions of Dollars if it is costing you the "W"? Is it Brunell's fault? No- it is management not taking repsonsibility and really looking at their mistakes. The players bust their tail, including Mark Brunell, he knows what is on the line and every play called is made by the man upstairs- calling the shot, not the QB. So instead of doing the right thing, make a scape goat and blame it on the QB, even though he isn't the one calling the plays? How truly shaming by the management- they need to take responsibility for their choices made prior to this season by brining in AL Saunders- that is where the fault lays. The R-Skins when directly "Coached" by Joe Gibbs made it to the play-offs last year- the only difference MAJOR between this year and last (besides the L's) is Al Saunders- the million dollar mistake. Terminate his contract, let Joe get back into doing what he is supposed to do- "COACH" and let the Redskins win- again. Instead of idiotic plays that don't work, taking motivated players and switching their positions which they were very familiar with, to non-effective positions which limit their potentials aka- Chris Cooley- and focusing on the power houses of the team- which we all know well. It isn't about the QB, its about blame- and sure that is the business but the reality of it is- getting rid of Al Saunders and that costly mistake. Sure Brunell, messed up- this past game- but only one interception in the past six games and they bench him? This is how management acts responsible- "blame the troops when they are in command"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I dont think anybody is going to support starting Brunell. But there is a difference in us and Dallas. They actually have a defense that shows up for the game. Ther defense is not all that. If we can sustain drives with our offense than our D can rest and they will be fresh and more effective. Dalls D is better now with Romo sits to pee than without him because they are converting 3rd downs and keeping them off the field. Look what happend yesterday. Philly had 2 long drives over 8 min a drive. That 17 to 20 min. Thats over a whole quater of a game. Thats ridiculous!!!!!!!! What Defense you know that can be effective if they are on the field that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 and the Poke's D is ranked where?:thumbsup: and the pokes are 1-2 the past 3 games Romo sits to pee is 2-1 as a starter. All 3 on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher44 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Shana na na shan na na hey hey hey GOODBYE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 You guys crack me up. Gibbs doesnt give a rats ass about what the media thinks. Oh Really? Between Doc walker yesterday and today, B Mitch letting fans vent, the sportstalk uncensored on Sirius this morning and Czaban as well as FANS in Blogs that the Redskins do read including this one had something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestrash Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Bubba: most disturbing sig ever. Almost made me forget to say that a QB with legs and a quick release can make up for imperfect O-line play. I hope Gibbs cares somewhat about what fans think, though if he always listened to us Robert McCune would be starting MLB. Hmmm, maybe we're on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Finally get his sorry ace on the bench and now we have these "let's rationalize" Boonell threads....argh!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 If the defense bothered to show up wed be right at 500. There you go again (in Reagan voice). Um, how about you ask this year's Raiders squad about that? Or, the 2004 Skins? The defenses on those teams are/were stellar and they are/were both a long way from .500. Try again dude. I'm not saying Campbell is going to turn our season around on a dime, but please let us know why making the (possible) improvement we're able to make isn't a step in the right direction? Should we continue to sit Rocky as well in favor of Mr. Super Smart on the defensive side of the ball? After all, getting Rocky some experience isn't going to improve our OL, or our kicking game. In other words, you're saying we should have every single player we need before we start playing any young guys...with our season all but over? Uhhh, riiiight. You've said yourself you agree with benching Brunell, so what's your rationale for saying we'll still suck anyway? Could it be, we've found the true nattering naybob of negativism? Where are all the folks who called us "Brunell haters" out for not supporting the team when this mope pulls his routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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