Chachie Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 They still shouldn't have canceled the show. Dana has said over, and over, you better be prepared to lose millions to get in the business. T-shirt should have bit the bullet. Show must go on. I imagine he knew the PPV customers would drop off the face of the Earth after Barnett turned up dirty. Bad way to do business, T-Shirt. I also think Affliction just died for all intents and purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 WEC on Aug. 9th :hysterical: You're right. Forgot about that one. You kill me, SU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Riggs and Overeem are out too? Sheesh!! :mad:August was going to be insane. Now it's just going to have 2 UFC events. (Not complaining about that.) Strikeforce will step up and add some Affliction fighters. Diaz-Gomi 2? Werdum-Fedor? Fedor is less likely because they probably can't take on that payroll bump this late. Gomi-Diaz 2 would have to be a catch-weight. Vitor is in a weird situation. That was his last fight under contract and the UFC was going to try and sign him. Now he has to wait it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I imagine he knew the PPV customers would drop off the face of the Earth after Barnett turned up dirty. Bad way to do business, T-Shirt. I also think Affliction just died for all intents and purposes. One report said that their ppv company had a lot to do with it. Maybe they were pulling out. Either way, at this point the show must go on. Call HDNET and give them the show if you have to. Get what you can and take your hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) They still shouldn't have canceled the show. Dana has said over, and over, you better be prepared to lose millions to get in the business. T-shirt should have bit the bullet. Show must go on. I could not agree more. The promotion is likely done whether they have the show or not, so why not go forward with it. Although it was not all their decision, apparently Showtime PPV was pressuring them to pull the plug. Edited July 24, 2009 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 :hysterical:You're right. Forgot about that one. You kill me, SU. WEC is alot of fun to watch. I enjoy them more than UFC sometimes (note the sometimes). Those guys love to push the pace and put on a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 WEC is alot of fun to watch. I enjoy them more than UFC sometimes (note the sometimes). Those guys love to push the pace and put on a show. i have only seen one bad WEC show, i think it was the card that Fihlo was seeing ghosts WEC's FW division is as deep and talented as any division in any other org (outside of the UFC's LHW) even the fights that dont have big names seem to produce great action fights in the WEC i'll be glad when they start their Flyweight division (125lbs) in the coming months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 T-shirt guy: http://mmajunkie.com/news/15622/officials-confirm-cancellation-of-affliction-trilogy-loss-of-main-event-cited-as-reason.mma "Finding an opponent for the No. 1 ranked MMA heavyweight champion in such a short period of time was a huge endeavor, and I'm thrilled at the amount of fighters willing to take on this challenge," Atencio stated. "But in the end, we just didn't have enough time to promote a new fight to our standards." "Affliction is deeply disappointed that the undercard is also canceled through no fault of its own," the release stated. "Affliction stands behind the company's brands and delivers premium products to the most passionate and loyal customers. Affliction's first priority is to ensure that all future events live up to the company's high standards." --- Total:bsflag: Should have paid Brett Rogers whatever he was asking for. Press conference toady with him, and it is a done deal. They got a ton of free publicity from this. They could have used it. Good news from same link: Executives from the show's co-promoter, M-1 Global, are flying into Anaheim, Calif., today. An additional announcement from the Russian-based promotion could be made later today that could give information about Emelianenko's next fight. It's possible, of course, some of the "Trilogy" fighters could be shifted to M-1's Aug. 28 card, which takes place in Los Angeles as the first event of the company's newly launched "premium fight series." Is Fedor's shady manager in charge of that show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Good news from same link:Executives from the show's co-promoter, M-1 Global, are flying into Anaheim, Calif., today. An additional announcement from the Russian-based promotion could be made later today that could give information about Emelianenko's next fight. It's possible, of course, some of the "Trilogy" fighters could be shifted to M-1's Aug. 28 card, which takes place in Los Angeles as the first event of the company's newly launched "premium fight series." Is Fedor's shady manager in charge of that show? Yep. He sure is. The same guy that was comparing the talent in the UFC to the M-1 Challenge. Somewhat discounting the competition in the UFC because of the amount of Americans. Cro Cop, Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Kongo, Nogueira...and that's just HWs. "We are open to any offer. The issue really is with the UFC, not with us. We are ready to fight the UFC champions. The UFC's roster is occupied by a vast majority of American athletes. Not every single best fighter is under their banner, so don't believe the hype. There is no real international diversity that's anywhere close to what we're doing with our M-1 Challenge concept." I don't really care about international diversity, I care about the best competition. And the competition in the M-1 Challenge is probably better compared to the MFC and not the UFC. Edited July 24, 2009 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 ..and it is official: yahoo sports Affliction folds MMA promotion, will sponsor UFCby Kevin Iole on Jul 24, 2009 at 6:15 pm ET After promoting two critically acclaimed but financially disastrous mixed martial arts cards, Affliction on Friday first canceled its pay-per-view card scheduled for Aug. 1 and then opted to get out of the promotional business, Yahoo! Sports has learned. The company and the Ultimate Fighting Championship are expected to release a statement sometime on Friday in which it is announced that Affliction will cease operations as a promoter and that its clothing division will become a UFC sponsor. Affliction had a card slated for Aug. 1 with a main event of Fedor Emelianenko, the No. 2 fighter in the Yahoo! Sports mixed martial arts rankings, against former UFC champion Josh Barnett at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif. But Barnett tested positive for an anabolic steroid and on Tuesday was denied a license to fight by the California State Athletic Commission. That left Affliction scrambling to fight a replacement for Emelianenko. With no viable alternatives – the best was former UFC light heavyweight champion Vitor Belfort, who was already down to 195 pounds for a scheduled middleweight fight – Affliction early Friday opted to scrap the show. Later in the day, Affliction came to terms on a deal in which it would quit promoting fight cards. However, the status of the fighter contracts belonging to Affliction is unknown. They could revert to the UFC or they could become free agents, able to sign with the promoter of their choice. Multiple sources had indicated to Yahoo! Sports that Affliction was on the verge of a deal with Strikeforce for some sort of merger, but that fell apart in the last 24-48 hours. That’s when talks began anew between White and Affliction. They had spoken earlier in July about such a scenario, but were unable to come to a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Yep. He sure is.The same guy that was comparing the talent in the UFC to the M-1 Challenge. Somewhat discounting the competition in the UFC because of the amount of Americans. Cro Cop, Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Kongo, Nogueira...and that's just HWs. I don't really care about international diversity, I care about the best competition. And the competition in the M-1 Challenge is probably better compared to the MFC and not the UFC. Not to mention that 3 of their 5 champs aren't American. Finkelstien is a jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBig101 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Welp, guess who's back? Per Dana White's Twitter, Tito Ortiz has returned to the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 WEC is alot of fun to watch. I enjoy them more than UFC sometimes (note the sometimes). Those guys love to push the pace and put on a show. Oh absolutely. I watch them all. I was laughing at StillUnknown for remembering each and every event in August. He's probably the most rabid fan we have in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Oh absolutely. I watch them all. I was laughing at StillUnknown for remembering each and every event in August. He's probably the most rabid fan we have in this thread. i have an unhealthy obsession with combat sports doesn't matter if its MMA, boxing, thai boxing, k-1, collegiate wrestling, bjj tournaments, big fights or small fights, i watch them all. this is my cry for help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Looks like with all the new fighters maybe becoming free agents the UFC is rethinking the 103 main event of Hendo-Franklin II. Rich is reporting via his twitter that all mentions of the fight have been pulled from ufc.com He hasn't been told anything. Hendo-Vitor? Franklin-Vitor wouldn't make as much sense since Franklin wants to stay at 205. George Misauieiasueaia (I should learn to spell that one)-Franklin? Santiago? I'd love to see Hendo-Vitor, but that main event slot is suppose to be Frankiln's. Franklin-Tito? Also like to see Vitor's debut be against Bisping. Dana is having a presser on Friday to announce "a laundry list" of things. Should be an interesting week of rumors and speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Looks like with all the new fighters maybe becoming free agents the UFC is rethinking the 103 main event of Hendo-Franklin II. Good. I did not really want to see that fight again right now. I figured that Dana was going to try and have Franklin vs. Tito, but I guess we'll see Friday. This really does open the door for some great matchups. This is exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 http://mmamania.com/2009/07/26/m-1-boss-vadim-finkelchtein-seeks-moment-of-truth-with-ufc/#more-14186 M-1 boss Vadim Finkelchtein seeks ‘moment of truth’ with UFC By: Press Release Mixfight.ru, the official Russian-language site of M-1Global.com, was able to reach M-1 Global President and Co-Owner Vadim Finkelchtein by phone soon after the cancellation of “Trilogy.” During the brief conversation with Mixfight.ru, Finkelchtein explained Affliction’s logic behind canceling the entire event. “Affliction is asserting that all the steps that have transpired had to take place because of the disruption caused in the presentation of their PPV,” he began to explain. “The fact is that according to American laws, if you advertise the showing of an event on a paid television channel, you are obligated to deliver what has been advertised. “In other countries, the marketing was centered around Fedor. However, in the U.S. the marketing of the fight was clearly built around both Fedor and Josh Barnett. Since Barnett was unable to compete as advertised, Affliction was concerned about legal issues.” In a bit of a surprise, Affliction announced a reconciliation with the UFC on Friday and confirmed that its involvement in MMA will now be limited to that as a sponsor. Finkelchtein was asked if M-1 will continue to work with Affliction. “This question remains open,” he answered. “Negotiations are currently taking place as we speak. With this cancellation they not only let us down but all the fighters and the MMA fans all over the world as well.” One of the most pressing questions coming from the cancellation is what will be the fate of former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko. In an official statement over the weekend, M-1 Global promised fight fans that Emelianenko will return to active competition as soon as possible. “We are now with Fedor in the U.S. and we hope to make a decision about his next fight within the next few days,” Finkelchtein stated. “There are many business meetings and negotiations planned with all the major promotions. We will explore the possibility of Fedor fighting Barnett and will even look into whether the fight can take place as soon as August (since Barnett has not been suspended).” Finkelchtein also believes that the cancellation of “Trilogy” could be used as an opportunity to jump start stagnant negotiations to bring Fedor to the UFC. “This is the moment of truth that the UFC has talked about. Fedor and I are here in the States. If they want to come out and fly here, we are ready to conduct negotiations. Of course it still doesn’t imply we are ready to accept any conditions they’ll throw at us. We want to talk to the UFC about having Fedor compete against some of their fighters, but only within the framework of co-promotional efforts with M-1 Global.” I've been telling you guys for years now that it is this Finkelchtein jack ass that is holding Fedor back. It is not Dana and the UFC. Co-promoted with M-1 Global? Give me a frekin break. What do they bring to the table? Unless Fedor gets rid of this wanna be Don King Fedor will not be in the UFC. Interesing to hear they are still looking at a Barnett fight. M-1 has a show at the end of August I think. I just tried searchjing for it quickly and didn't find anything. Tells you right there they have no business asking to co-promote a lemonade stand with the UFC. I bet it is in a shady place that will license Barnett. They should put their money where their mouth is and do the fight themselves if they think they are big shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) I've been telling you guys for years now that it is this Finkelchtein jack ass that is holding Fedor back. It is not Dana and the UFC. Co-promoted with M-1 Global? Give me a frekin break. What do they bring to the table? Unless Fedor gets rid of this wanna be Don King Fedor will not be in the UFC. Interesing to hear they are still looking at a Barnett fight. M-1 has a show at the end of August I think. I just tried searchjing for it quickly and didn't find anything. Tells you right there they have no business asking to co-promote a lemonade stand with the UFC. I bet it is in a shady place that will license Barnett. They should put their money where their mouth is and do the fight themselves if they think they are big shots. I seriously doubt that Fedor is ever going to fight in the UFC and its a shame. And I do not think it is Dana's fault in any way. They will not even let Dana meet with Fedor, and I bet if they would, a deal would get done. But his manager is a pud. I think Dana is doing everything he can within reason, but that is not going to be enough for this guy. And I think the M-1 show is supposed to be at the L.A. Sports Arena on Aug. 28 and being headlined (as of now) by Mo Lawal-Don Frye. I like Lawal, and I like Don Frye as much as about anyone, but at this point in Frye's career...I am not that excited about that fight. I am taking Frye's mustache via RNC in the second round. It will be interesting to see if Barnett is allowed to fight in California in that short amount of time...considering he just failed a drug test there. But who knows...he was not officially suspended. Edit: Here is an article about the Aug. 28 M-1 event... http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2009/07/frye-lawal-to-lead-m-1s-live-tv-debut/1 Edited July 26, 2009 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I know this won't be a popular opinion... And i'm sure I'm going to get jumped on, but what the heck, why not... Does anyone else get the feeling that Fedor and his promoter are asking all of these outrageous demands because they don't want to go up against Lesnar? I think Fedor thinks he could win, but knows if he loses he is no longer the clear #1 HW. And losing IS a possibility. I think they know that they could draw more interest from fans if they don't let everyone see the Lesnar/Fedor fight... But I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 It will be interesting to see if Barnett is allowed to fight in California in that short amount of time...considering he just failed a drug test there. But who knows...he was not officially suspended. Edit: Here is an article about the Aug. 28 M-1 event... http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2009/07/frye-lawal-to-lead-m-1s-live-tv-debut/1 I didn't know it was in CA. No way Barnett gets a license in time. They would have to move the event to an Indian casino, or do the fight closed circuit from a basement on a cruise ship in international waters. I know this won't be a popular opinion... And i'm sure I'm going to get jumped on, but what the heck, why not...Does anyone else get the feeling that Fedor and his promoter are asking all of these outrageous demands because they don't want to go up against Lesnar? I think Fedor thinks he could win, but knows if he loses he is no longer the clear #1 HW. And losing IS a possibility. I think they know that they could draw more interest from fans if they don't let everyone see the Lesnar/Fedor fight... But I could be wrong. I don't think that is it. If they thought Fedor would lose that fight it would be in their best interest to make it a multi-fight deal. Lesnar beats Fedor on a one-fight deal all his mystique is gone. To a lot of people he would be just another Pride guy that flopped in the cage. Fedor has never fought in a cage. That can't be underestimated. Ask Cro Cop. Fedor should want a multi-fight deal just in case he loses he can redeem himself. Can you imagine Fedor losing to Lesnar on a one-fight deal and then asking Dana for another deal? :hysterical: "Sure, Finkle. How about 6 fights for 10,000/10,000, *******." Anyone starting to think it may be more than a coincidence that the companies that pay Fedor end up going belly up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Does anyone else get the feeling that Fedor and his promoter are asking all of these outrageous demands because they don't want to go up against Lesnar? I am not going to lie, I have thought the same thing recently as well. But again, I think it has more to do with Fedor's manager than anybody else. I think Fedor will fight anyone, but his manager is more interested in using Fedor as a pawn to gain more leverage for his second-tier promotion. He is going to go out in the press and try and paint Dana White as the bad guy, but that can only go on for so long. UFC contracts might be restrictive, but can you blame them? Fedor's team is the one that has the unreasonable demands in this case IMO. It is not about sambo anymore. I think, at this point, Dana would let him compete in those tournaments. But I don't think Dana is going to cross-promote M-1 events and bring in a bunch of fighters from under the M-1 banner. It just would not make good business sense IMO. Fedor vs. Lesnar and many others would be huge fights, no doubt. But that is not enough to compromise what has made the UFC such a successful organization over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I didn't even hear about this feud until recently. http://mmajunkie.com/news/15637/feud-between-quinton-jackson-and-muhammed-lawal-escalates-with-rampage-blog-post.mma Feud between Quinton Jackson and Muhammed Lawal escalates with "Rampage" by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Jul 25, 2009 at 7:50 pm ET A budding rivalry that took center stage earlier this month during the festivities surrounding UFC 100 continues to gain steam two weeks later. In a blog post on FightHype.com by Quinton Jackson, which the former UFC champion also advertised on his Twitter account, "Rampage" blasts prospect Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal. "This punk ass dude 'King Mo' is all butt-hurt because I don't know who the hell he is," Jackson stated. "Straight up, if you're not one of my friends or fighting one of my friends or a potential later opponent, I might not get a chance to watch your fight. So I didn't know who the hell 'King Mo' was and now [he's] crying like a little girl." A portion of the original conflict was captured on tape and posted on YouTube. In a van ride with Jackson, Lawal and heavyweight Bobby Lashley, "Rampage" took offense to "King Mo" referring to him as "Bumpage" and advertising himself as "the best" despite just currently sporting a mere 4-0 record. The video has since received 100,000 views. In his new blog post, Jackson admits he doesn't watch a lot of MMA outside of the fighters he feels necessary to track, and he advises future up-and-coming fighters to approach him differently than Lawal. "If you're an up-and-coming fighter, don't assume that I know you or (have) seen you fight," Jackson stated. "Let me know that you're a fighter so we don't have the same problems like 'King Mo' over here. Because 'King Mo' would be half-cool if he didn't have those gay ass nipple rings and didn't talk so much." Lawal, who recently revealed he's currently a free agent, is scheduled to compete in the U.S. for the first time in his short career in the main event of "M-1 Breakthrough." Lawal faces MMA legend Don Frye at the Aug. 28 event. Jackson, who recently completed his role as coach during the filming of the 10th season of "The Ultimate Fighter," faces opposing coach and rival Rashad Evans in December. For complete coverage of "M-1 Breakthrough" and UFC 107, stay tuned to the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I didn't even hear about this feud until recently. I like Mo, and it is going to be interesting to see where he ends up. But I do not think he wants anything part of Rampage right now. And...in other pesudo-related Rampage news, Kongo-Mir possibly at UFC 107 in December to go along with Rashad and Rampage. http://mmajunkie.com/news/15642/report-heavyweights-cheick-kongo-and-frank-mir-could-meet-at-ufc-107-in-december.mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I like Mo, and it is going to be interesting to see where he ends up. But I do not think he wants anything part of Rampage right now.And...in other pesudo-related Rampage news, Kongo-Mir possibly at UFC 107 in December to go along with Rashad and Rampage. http://mmajunkie.com/news/15642/report-heavyweights-cheick-kongo-and-frank-mir-could-meet-at-ufc-107-in-december.mma Yep I agree. Mo's a solid new prospect but coming out and talking smack about one of the best in the world when you're still just a rookie in the MMA world isn't the way to go. Reminds me of Brandon Vera when he came in and started calling people out. We all know how that turned out for him. Kongo vs. Mir would be a good matchup. Frank should be able to take him down and submit him at some point because Kongo's wrestling is nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I like Mo, and it is going to be interesting to see where he ends up. But I do not think he wants anything part of Rampage right now.And...in other pesudo-related Rampage news, Kongo-Mir possibly at UFC 107 in December to go along with Rashad and Rampage. http://mmajunkie.com/news/15642/report-heavyweights-cheick-kongo-and-frank-mir-could-meet-at-ufc-107-in-december.mma It won't be in the UFC. He signed a deal with EA for that video game. I've got Kongo by KO. Mir will try and stand for a second too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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