Slacky McSlackAss Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I heard Rampage is getting a shot at the belt again. Can anyone confirm this for me? If so, how the hell does he get a crack at the title before Machida? I'm beginning to wonder if it's the boring fights keeping him from getting his shot or if it's the top 205 guys are afraid to fight him. From what I hear the winner of Machida vs Silva in 2 weeks gets a shot at Rashad first. Rampage's next fight is Jardine, which makes no sense to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoEd Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Off the top of my head, my top 5 MMA P4P:1. Fedor- Hasn't lost. Ever. His one "loss" was due to injury and he avenged it. 2. Spider- He's simply on fire, destroying all comers no matter how highly ranked. I can't put him above Fedor until Fedor loses though. 3. GSP- I have him ranked higher than BJ because has truly been such a complete fighter, lower than Silva because he got KOed recently. 4. BJ Penn- If he had been better conditioned earlier in his career I'd give him the #2 or #3 spot but he can earn that by beating GSP. (I think he beat GSP the first time but whatever.) 5. Rashad Evans- 2nd hottest fighter on the map (behind Silva) as far as recent activity. In my view, dude's gotta lose before anyone can knock him out of P4P contention. He's improved almost as profoundly as GSP has in the last 3 years. I say this as someone who is not a Rashad fan. Honorable mentions: Faber- He just got KOed and has never fought in the UFC or Pride so he hasn't been tested by the best. I know he looks awesome but I can't give him P4P status until he's been to the mountain top. In fact, I can't give any WEC fighter any P4P love. Josh Barnett- Only Cro Cop has truly owned him and I doubt Mirko could beat him now. Rampage- other than the controversial decision loss to Griffin, he's run the table in the UFC impressively with victories over BIG names. Frank Mir- He's BACK. If he beats Lesnar again, he catapults to #3 or #4. I concur :applause: If Lesnar, as much as I hate the hype, keeps getting better he's going to be unstoppable. If so, he's going to run into the same problem as Silva, the Roy Jones affect. He can't keep beating up the same guys over and over again and Dana is too much of a douche to get Fedor in the UFC so you'll probably never see him fight the best. However, and I probably wouldn't bet on it; I think Brock wants to fight the best no matter what. He already walked away from the $$ in the WWE and I wouldn't be suprised to see him walk away from the UFC when his contract is up for a shot to fight Fedor if that's what it took to fight the best. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) I heard Rampage is getting a shot at the belt again. Can anyone confirm this for me? If so, how the hell does he get a crack at the title before Machida? I'm beginning to wonder if it's the boring fights keeping him from getting his shot or if it's the top 205 guys are afraid to fight him. i don't think they're afraid of fighting him, hell Rashad said in an interview shortly after he won the title he has no problems fighting Machida. although that match would resemble a game of tag if it ever materializes. Machida's problem is that he's perfectly content to be boring and win decisions. as technical as he is, he can't afford to be boring in a division stacked with exciting fighters. Machida will get his shot if he beats Thiago Silva, but he better make the most of it. Boring fighters don't last long in the UFC. hell look at Koscheck, a 2 years ago he was a known as a blanket, now people actually anticipate his next fight (by the way which is at UFC 95, the guy is one of the more active fighters out right now) i think the thing that bugs me the most about Machida, is that he has all the skills to be an exciting fighter, but its like he just prefers to stay in a shell and pot shot for a decision victory Edited January 23, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 on the fight network they are reporting that Cro Cop was offered a fight in the UFC. He rejected all 3 offers which were Mark Coleman, Lyoto Machida and Tito Ortiz. WTF??? how does that make any sense? I call BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 i don't think they're afraid of fighting him, hell Rashad said in an interview shortly after he won the title he has no problems fighting Machida. although that match would resemble a game of tag if it ever materializes.Machida's problem is that he's perfectly content to be boring and win decisions. as technical as he is, he can't afford to be boring in a division stacked with exciting fighters. Machida will get his shot if he beats Thiago Silva, but he better make the most of it. Boring fighters don't last long in the UFC. hell look at Koscheck, a 2 years ago he was a known as a blanket, now people actually anticipate his next fight (by the way which is at UFC 95, the guy is one of the more active fighters out right now) i think the thing that bugs me the most about Machida, is that he has all the skills to be an exciting fighter, but its like he just prefers to stay in a shell and pot shot for a decision victory SU, I hate machida as much as the next, but he is probably the best fighter at 205. He is so technically sound and patient its incredible. The discipline to wait for the perfect moment to strike. unreal. I hope Thiago KO's his ass tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Affliction: UFC Degenerates, predictions Dan Lauzon vs. Bobby Green: Bobby Green has fought 8 times in his career, all of them in 2008. He's 7-1, and apparently has heavy hands with a ground game that has worked for him in a couple fights that he's won by submission. Dan Lauzon, brother of UFC fighter Joe Lauzon, is on a hot streak. From what I've seen, other than his fight against Spencer Fischer, he's as tough as his brother. Yet, presumably, a little less skilled. I'll take Dan in this fight, assuming he's following his brother's footsteps. Lauzon, TKO G&P, round 2. Paul Buentello vs. Kirill Sidelnikov: First of all, Sidelnikov's nickname is "Baby Fedor", how lame. Wonder if Obama wants the nickname "Baby Lincoln", or if Kobe Bryant wants the nickname "Baby Jordan", or if Usher wants the nickname "Baby Babyface". Get rid of it, it's wrong in more ways than a few. As far as the fight, this is a vet vs. rookie bout. Paul certainly likes taking time off between fights. Let me flip a coin and choose, because I'll be taking a dump during this one. Oh lookie here, the quarter landed on its side. Draw. Matt Lindland vs. Vitor Belfort: I don't think Lindland will stand and trade with Belfort. As everybody knows, Vitor will knock you out if you trade with him. Lindland is a seasoned, gritty vet with a ongoing purpose. I see him getting this to the ground, loosening Vitor up with strikes, and pulling a sub. Lindland, guillotine, round 2. Renato Sobral vs. Rameau Sokoudjou: I think Sokoudjou would rather do other things than fight. His conditioning isn't for fighting, and he's talked about wanting to be a porn star. Uhhh, same here, brother, but hopefully you're practicing anaconda choke escapes during your threesomes. Soko lit up Little Nog and Arona, but I stayed skeptical about his highly-anticipated emergence. He's a big puncher with a ton of athletic potential, but Babalu should own him on the ground. This is puncher's chance vs. plain skills. Babalu, D'arce choke, round 1. Josh Barnett vs. Gilbert Yvel: Did anybody watch "Inside MMA" on HDNet when Gilbert and Josh were on? They actually tried to make excuses as to why he KO'd the ref. Your eyes would roll, at best. Yvel is a psychotic maniac with a hard head. He's only been (T)KO'd twice in his 48 fights, and has about 97 thousand tattoos. That alone, is more impressive than any fight he's had. He will go out there and try to knock Josh's head off. If Josh gets cute with the standup, as he's been know to do, he might get caught. His best bet is to get this to the ground and smash on Gilbert. As of late, Gilbert hasn't faced anybody even close to Josh's level. I expect Josh to slam Gilbert and teach him a lesson in manners. TKO, G&P, round 2. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski: The argument is, Fedor doesn't face the toughest, most prime competition anymore. True, yet the Heavyweight division is just as thin in the UFC as it is abroad. Nonetheless, this will be Fedor's second fight in a row against a former UFC Champion. Arlovski is always improving, but his last fight against Roy Nelson didn't impress me. It looked like he worked so much on his boxing, that he was off balance, due to this sport NOT BEING BOXING. He was looking for short, clean shots, trying to box in an MMA match. I'll say it right now, if Arlovski performs the same way he did against Nelson, you'll see the first death in televised MMA. Fedor fights for MMA. I've heard qualms about his footwork and punching technique now, I mean Jesus H. Christ, I wonder if people judged Charles' Barkley's dunking ability by the way he drives a golf ball. Perhaps that's the reason he smashed his cup on defender's temples every night. The same will happen here. Arlovski will come out shadowboxing, looking for counter straights and quick, short punches. Fedor will get under Arlovski's power, pop up, and nail him so he's stunned enough for a takedown. Game over. G&P, round 1. Edited January 23, 2009 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I hope Thiago KO's his ass tho I don't like Machida either but if he gets KOd it would be shame because he would definitely be out of title contention which he earned a while back....then again it would probably open the door for Rampage vs. Evans in the summer, assuming Rampage knocks Jardine's head into the crowd with a hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I left Machida off my list by mistake. He's definitely another honorable mention. Thiago Silva is a bad-azz who's capable of catching Machida or anyone and is real hot right now but not P4P hot. Miguel Torres is in the WEC. Real good organization but it's a farm league and so he gets lumped in with Faber. Thoughts on Rampage-Jardine... Keith loves to kick legs and Jackson hates having his legs kicked. I'm not favoring Jardine, I'm just sayin'. Afflicton predictions: Belfort v. Lindlund Tough call. I still remember Matt getting KOed in :24 by David Terrell in the UFC and that makes me think if a young buck can catch him, Vitor will definitely catch him. I'm rooting for Lindlund though, because I think he looks like The Thing. The Law, RNC rd2 Sobral v. Soko If Babalu hadn't been GnPed by Jason Lambert, I'd be positive of a victory for him this saturday nite. I still favor him but Soko needs a win badly and may be a better ring fighter than a cage fighter. I also think that Machida and Kane were big enough to wear Soko out fast, whereas Renato may not be. Upset: Soko by GnP in 2. Fedor v. Andrei I mean c'mon. Like I'm gonna call a fight against Emelianenko. If Arlovski turns out to be Buster Douglas, fine. He's certainly of a high enough caliber to be in the same ring with Fedor so why not? Fedor sinks in a choke, finishing the Pit Bull in 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thoughts on Rampage-Jardine... Keith loves to kick legs and Jackson hates having his legs kicked. I'm not favoring Jardine, I'm just sayin'. I didn't even think of that. Rampage's trainers had better get him checking those kicks before the Jardine fight...that being said, if Jardine isn't careful with his kicks he could leave himself open for a one-punch KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 ...that being said, if Jardine isn't careful with his kicks he could leave himself open for a one-punch KO. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 i think the thing that bugs me the most about Machida, is that he has all the skills to be an exciting fighter, but its like he just prefers to stay in a shell and pot shot for a decision victory Although I certainly cannot knock his style if it nets him constant wins, I'd say he's one of those guys who wants NOT to lose more than he wants to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Check a Dana quote “You’re lucky if you see three or four of these fights in your lifetime. Two of the best fighters in the world in their weight classes — both champions — facing each other both in their prime. I know I keep saying this every time we put on another event, but I think this is going to be the biggest one we’ve ever done (on pay-per-view). B.J. is going to go down in history as one of the greatest lightweights in history. Georges St. Pierre has the opportunity to possibly beat B.J. Penn for the second time and possibly move up and take on Anderson Silva at 185 pounds….. It’s not boxing where one guy moves up six weight classes because he’s only jumping up three or four pounds. To hold two different titles in two different weight classes with the big jump in this sport is a big deal and something to be proud of.” and the that is that Montreal show with the Main event rumored but not confirmed to be Silva-Leites UFC 97: APRIL 18, 2009 venue: Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada -Anderson Silva (#1 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites -Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (#5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Chuck Liddell (#6 Light Heavyweight in the World)* -David Loiseau vs. Ed Herman -Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski -David Bielkheden vs. Mark Bocek -Luiz Cane vs. Steve Cantwell -Tamdan McCrory vs. TBA That would be a really quick turnaround for GSP, but if he happens to get by Penn without injury I can see this happening. That Silva-Leites match never made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 SU, I hate machida as much as the next, but he is probably the best fighter at 205.He is so technically sound and patient its incredible. The discipline to wait for the perfect moment to strike. unreal. I hope Thiago KO's his ass tho Put me down as someone who doesn't hate Machida at all. I love watching him fight. So technically elusive (couldn't resist). He is a lot more exciting than Evans. Evans may just be better at getting his opponent to fall into his trap than Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OMG I would love to see a Silva-GSP fight. I think Silva would win just based on the size advantage (and he's a little bit better fighter). But I think that would be a war, totally worth paying to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Vitor decisions Lindland Barnett submits Yvel Sokoudjou tko's Sobral Fedor tko's Arlovski on another note, i don't hate Machida at all, i'm actually a fan because i actually appreciate his technicality. that said, he needs to do something to be more exciting. i'm not sayin he has to become wild and reckless, just open up a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) http://sherdog.com/news/articles/pros-pick-emelianenko-vs-arlovski-15903 Pros that picked Fedor to win: 26 Pros that picked Arlovski to win: 4 Pros that did not pick a winner: 1 don't forget that the WEC card is Sunday night. Varner/Cerrone for the LW title, and Faber/Pulver II. WEC always puts on great cards. Varner/Cerrone will be a war guaranteed Edited January 23, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 http://sherdog.com/news/articles/pros-pick-emelianenko-vs-arlovski-15903Pros that picked Fedor to win: 26 Pros that picked Arlovski to win: 4 Pros that did not pick a winner: 1 don't forget that the WEC card is Sunday night. Varner/Cerrone for the LW title, and Faber/Pulver II. WEC always puts on great cards. Varner/Cerrone will be a war guaranteed Oh yeah! I'm going to that WEC show. Front row of the middle level. Give me some sign ideas and I will hang them over the rail. They said I will be right over the entry ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Oh yeah! I'm going to that WEC show. Front row of the middle level. Give me some sign ideas and I will hang them over the rail. They said I will be right over the entry ramp. How about "EXTREME WEC" in the burgandy and gold? Or even "Thumbwrestling!!" in B&G. edit- I want to be listed in the "non-haters of Lyoto Machida" section. He's humble, hard-working, and dangerous. I just think he employs the hit-don't get hit method, which is the best logic of all. Not often a fan-pleaser but not deserving of anyone's "hate." Edited January 24, 2009 by Chachie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Affliction's undercard is being shown on HDNet live starting at 7pm(est) the main card starts at 9(est) on PPV Pay-Per-View Bouts: -Fedor Emelianenko (#1 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Andrei Arlovski (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* -Josh Barnett (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Gilbert Yvel -Matt Lindland (#3 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Vitor Belfort -Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou -Paul Buentello vs. Kiril "Baby Fedor" Sidelnikov -Dan Lauzon vs. Bobby Green HDNet Bouts: -Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (#7 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Vladimir Matyushenko -Jay Hieron vs. Jason High -L.C. Davis vs. Bao Quach -Antonio Duarte vs. Albert Rios -Brett Cooper vs. Patrick Speigh Edited January 24, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I'm so ready for this card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I'll be watching on my computer in my office. Anyone else watching online tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 i am watching online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I bought the 9pm PPV. My first-ever non-UFC MMA pay-per-view. I hope Affliction lives up to the hype of the names on this card. Hey real quick- Any differences in the rules from UFC to Affliction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 -Dan Lauzon vs. Bobby Green The countdown show in the PPV channel says Chris Horodecki is the opponent for Dan Lauzon. If Dan is anywhere close to his brother, this fight will be awesome. I'm picking Horodecki. He was great in the IFL. Still just a boy too. He's like 20 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) horodecki couldn't get medically cleared, Bobby greene's his replacement hdnet portion of the card is about to start Edited January 24, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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