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[#98QBKiller]

I'll get at you once I resize that. Sorry to hear the bad news. I hope all is well with your family.

Sorry about your grandmother QBkiller. My prayers for your family.

Thanks for the kind words guys, I appreciate it.

I didn't see the fights I read them on the Sherdog play-by-play, it sounds like BJ Penn pretty much owned Joe Daddy though!

It looked like there were a lot of (T)KOs/good striking in the fights. Was it a good PPV?

Just let me know about that sig mvisit, I'll display it with shame

We'll have to do some more sig bets for PPVs, this is pretty fun. Talk to you guys soon.

[Samuels]

Surprised more people are'nt talking about BJ licking his gloves. I loved it but i guess i'm a different breed, the guy is a f'ing animal licking Stevensons blood off each glove after the fight, unbelievable. And you had to love Sherk your dead.

I hope BJ is in shape for the Sherk fight because he is gonna tool the lay-n-pray master.

I might have to go buy a Penn shirt for that. I still wanna see GSP and Penn 1 more time.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Surprised more people are'nt talking about BJ licking his gloves. I loved it but i guess i'm a different breed, the guy is a f'ing animal licking Stevensons blood off each glove after the fight, unbelievable. And you had to love Sherk your dead.

I hope BJ is in shape for the Sherk fight because he is gonna tool the lay-n-pray master.

I might have to go buy a Penn shirt for that. I still wanna see GSP and Penn 1 more time.

I mean, it was in his mouth all night. A little more wasn't going to make his gag reflex act up. But one thing I really like about BJ is what you are eluding to. He has a mean mentality. He gets in there and really wants to fight you. You always here about how it's an art and ****, but he wants to wrap you up like a spider and beat your ass. You can see it in his eyes before the match - I LOVE that.

Stevenson did do a better job than people think after watching the fight again. Give it 2 years and I think this fight becomes interesting.

Otherwise who absolutely loves when BJ wraps fighters arms against their body with that body triangle? He's done it 2 fights in a row now. It drained Jens and Stevenson to the point where he could slip the choke. That is a badass move.

[SkinsOrlando]

"I will never doubt BJ Penn again. Chachie is my sensei and master. I bask in his MMA glory."

2 weeks.

Good night of fights, even if most were one-sided.

I owe you a rematch for UFC 81. We'll talk more as it nears.

Sig updated.

[herrmag]

I don't know if that was a schooling on the ground. Stevenson got out of back control 2 or 3 times. Not a lot of anything on the ground from BJ until Stevenson was blinded. Stevenson looked motivated standing up in the second round. Moving around, putting together combo attempts, he wasn't dominated. A great punch by Penn right at the beginning, and just staying on top of Stevenson on the ground. No sub attempts until the easy rear-nude grab, not a lot of striking. Stevenson even cracked BJ with a combo from the bottom. I dunno if BJ can take Sherk.

Sig bet for the Sherk fight. I don't know what it's going to take to convince you double. I think you're just being stubborn now. :laugh:

To whomever I owe a sig (PB? I don't remember). Here you go.

I like fighting.

[Chachie]

Sig updated.

Looks great! :laugh: :applause:

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Sig bet for the Sherk fight. I don't know what it's going to take to convince you double. I think you're just being stubborn now. :laugh:

To whomever I owe a sig (PB? I don't remember). Here you go.

I like fighting.

OUCH. I ain't betting no sig with you, man. That just ruined the image I have of two of my favorite fighters, ever. Sakuraba being my favorite. At least Wanderlei isn't slapping his jaw in that picture. But my goodness. :thud:

Sherk KO :05 in the first round baby!!! Needle that juicy juice in your ass Sherk!

[StillUnknown]

OUCH. I ain't betting no sig with you, man. That just ruined the image I have of two of my favorite fighters, ever. Sakuraba being my favorite. At least Wanderlei isn't slapping his jaw in that picture. But my goodness. :thud:

Sherk KO :05 in the first round baby!!! Needle that juicy juice in your ass Sherk!

for someone of great strength, Sherk doesn't have punching power. he's allergic to finishing fights

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

for someone of great strength, Sherk doesn't have punching power. he's allergic to finishing fights

It's funny you say that because every time I see Sherk throw his hooks you'd think he'd punch a guy's head off. He just can't land the damn things because his arms are stumpier than he is. I'm not holding out judgment on this fight, because BJ has some wicked grappling techniques - however long it takes him to implement them in a fight. The problem for BJ is that Sherk is way more wild and strong than Pulver or Stevenson. He will be able to get off of the ground if BJ just wants to lay there and make 50 attempts to cut his forhead with a glancing elbow. I find it hard to believe that BJ would have any chance against GSP at Welterweight now. It just doesn't seem like BJ is on that level. Penn beat an aspiring featherweight and a TUF guy. Sherk is another level but you guys wanting to see GSP and Penn...goodness gracious. I'd put some money down on GSP.

[StillUnknown]

It's funny you say that because every time I see Sherk throw his hooks you'd think he'd punch a guy's head off. He just can't land the damn things because his arms are stumpier than he is. I'm not holding out judgment on this fight, because BJ has some wicked grappling techniques - however long it takes him to implement them in a fight. The problem for BJ is that Sherk is way more wild and strong than Pulver or Stevenson. He will be able to get off of the ground if BJ just wants to lay there and make 50 attempts to cut his forhead with a glancing elbow. I find it hard to believe that BJ would have any chance against GSP at Welterweight now. It just doesn't seem like BJ is on that level. Penn beat an aspiring featherweight and a TUF guy. Sherk is another level but you guys wanting to see GSP and Penn...goodness gracious. I'd put some money down on GSP.

the "TUF fighter" argument is pretty much deaded with all the successes they have had :2cents:

i just wonder how Sherk will react if he has problems taking BJ down. BJ has some of the best takedown defense in MMA. he stuffed Hughes, and GSP has to fight like hell to get him down. Both are stronger than Sherk, i think the fight only goes to the ground if BJ wants it to.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

the "TUF fighter" argument is pretty much deaded with all the successes they have had :2cents:

i just wonder how Sherk will react if he has problems taking BJ down. BJ has some of the best takedown defense in MMA. he stuffed Hughes, and GSP has to fight like hell to get him down. Both are stronger than Sherk, i think the fight only goes to the ground if BJ wants it to.

I dunno about successes. We're talking about champions here. Aside from 400 year old Serra, who was on the comeback show, and had the upset of the year - TUF fighters are still amatures learning how to be a pro. BJ is the damn Prodigy. One day TUF fighters may make the majority of the upper rankings, including champs. Hughes from years past, GSP, Sherk or Stevenson? Sorry, but you can sum up that comparison by saying Stevenson is a recent TUF fighter. TUF is a great idea for a sort of minor-league draft system. Give those fighters a few years and some of them will make noise. I wouldn't be surprised if within 10 years TUF fighters make up the majority of champions. But not right now.

I just can't see BJ taking on GSP now. GSP judo-threw Hughes like he was sparring a child. Hughes may not have it anymore, but GSP looks like he should get the part for Terminator 4. Discussion for another day, but at least the lower ranks are getting interesting.

Now, as far as heavyweight...hopefully Mir or Lesnar can shake it up a little. Sad division, IMO. Cro Cop nearly finished, boring Arlovski on his way out, Sylvia is an oaf who's going to fight pitty-pat Kongo. Werdum is decent but not exciting, kick-master Gonzaga just lost. If anything they DON'T need a LHW TUF, moreso a HW TUF. It's getting sad up there.

[Samuels]

the "TUF fighter" argument is pretty much deaded with all the successes they have had :2cents:

i just wonder how Sherk will react if he has problems taking BJ down. BJ has some of the best takedown defense in MMA. he stuffed Hughes, and GSP has to fight like hell to get him down. Both are stronger than Sherk, i think the fight only goes to the ground if BJ wants it to.

Ding,Ding we have a winner. Sherk has nothing but lay-n-pray he can't finish fights and will struggle to take BJ down, honestly do you even wanna be on top of BJ in guard?.

I honestly don't see this fight being that great unless BJ completely gasses and Sherk can win the later rounds winning via a decision. All BJ has to do is win the 1st 3 rounds even if he gasses bad Sherk will win the last 2.

I hate people making fun of the tuff guys who cares all these guys were fighters before the show. The show is designed to get these fighters exposure and see if they can find a hidden star. Even the UFC vets have been on the show. I don't care if you fight on tuff or some underground shows you made it to the UFC because your good. Stevenson is a top 5 lightweight period it don't matter where he came from the kid is talented. You guys try to make it out to beating a tuff guy is nothing. Look at Forest working the supposed greatest fighter in the world Shogun lol or atleast Sherdog said so..

[StillUnknown]

I dunno about successes. We're talking about champions here. Aside from 400 year old Serra, who was on the comeback show, and had the upset of the year - TUF fighters are still amatures learning how to be a pro. BJ is the damn Prodigy. One day TUF fighters may make the majority of the upper rankings, including champs. Hughes from years past, GSP, Sherk or Stevenson? Sorry, but you can sum up that comparison by saying Stevenson is a recent TUF fighter. TUF is a great idea for a sort of minor-league draft system. Give those fighters a few years and some of them will make noise. I wouldn't be surprised if within 10 years TUF fighters make up the majority of champions. But not right now.

I just can't see BJ taking on GSP now. GSP judo-threw Hughes like he was sparring a child. Hughes may not have it anymore, but GSP looks like he should get the part for Terminator 4. Discussion for another day, but at least the lower ranks are getting interesting.

Now, as far as heavyweight...hopefully Mir or Lesnar can shake it up a little. Sad division, IMO. Cro Cop nearly finished, boring Arlovski on his way out, Sylvia is an oaf who's going to fight pitty-pat Kongo. Werdum is decent but not exciting, kick-master Gonzaga just lost. If anything they DON'T need a LHW TUF, moreso a HW TUF. It's getting sad up there.

the problem with a HW TUF is that there just arent enough prospects to hold a show. remember they tried before, the only ones that emerged from that season were Rashad and Keith, and they both dropped down to LHW.

Mir hasn't been the same since the motorcycle accident sadly. i don't ever see him competing for a title, which i why i'm pulling for Lesnar to have an exciting showing against Mir. If nothing else, Lesnar can add some spark to a division that badly needs it.

i'll be praying to the high heavens that Nog defeats Timmay, i can't stomach another reign of Timmay refusing to take off his title.

as for TUF itself, i think its shown itself to be more than amatuer fighters. sure the majority of the fighters on the show will never be anything of consequence, but they have produced a number of top 10 fighters. Jardine, Forrest, Rashad is just outside the top 10, and thats just the lightheavyweight division.

Koscheck may be boring as hell, but he is still top 10. Diego was top10 before his losses.

[herrmag]

i'll be praying to the high heavens that Nog defeats Timmay, i can't stomach another reign of Timmay refusing to take off his title.

:laugh: I was thinking the same thing. Sadly, as boring as big Tim can be, he is a great HW. I don't think anyone can argue against that. Sure, he got his ass kicked by Randy, but Randy may very well be the #1 HW in the world.

[Samuels]

:laugh: I was thinking the same thing. Sadly, as boring as big Tim can be, he is a great HW. I don't think anyone can argue against that. Sure, he got his ass kicked by Randy, but Randy may very well be the #1 HW in the world.

Agreed. Nog was very unimpressive in his last fight. Herring had him out if he woulda just pounced that fight was over. I think Big Tim wins that fight pretty easily. I think Lesnar is the type that could win the title he is that good of a wrestler with great size and strenght at the least he can win alot of fights just by lay-n-pray.

[StillUnknown]

Agreed. Nog was very unimpressive in his last fight. Herring had him out if he woulda just pounced that fight was over. I think Big Tim wins that fight pretty easily. I think Lesnar is the type that could win the title he is that good of a wrestler with great size and strenght at the least he can win alot of fights just by lay-n-pray.

i don't think Nog was unimpressive in the herring fight, he got caught with a stiff shot, other than that he controlled the entire fight

[StillUnknown]

this is why Rampage is the man:

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[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

this is why Rampage is the man:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LOL. This is the video that he impersonates Chuck. It's at the end, he does Chuck's fighting stance, too. Classic.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida Confirmed - Tito Lashes Out at UFC

http://www.thefightnetwork.com//news_detail.php?nid=6048

Disrespected “Bad Boy” Lashes Out at UFC, Confirms May Bout with Machida

By Loretta Hunt (loretta@thefightnetwork.com)

Another UFC champion is speaking out against the promotion he once called home.

In an interview on Sirius’ Fight Network Radio on Monday, a disgruntled Tito Ortiz cited money as a primary point of contention with Zuffa LLC, the Las Vegas-based company that purchased the mixed martial arts’ brand in early 2001 and turned it into a $200 million-plus industry over the next five years.

“They don’t want the fighters to get as big as a 'Tyson' or a 'De La Hoya' or one of those types because all of a sudden, they’ll be expecting to see a lot more payment,” said Ortiz. “The UFC makes about 99 percent of the money, and the rest goes to the fighters. That one percent ain't nothing compared to what they make on merchandising, on pay-per-view, and everything else they make around the world.”

Ortiz is not the only marquee fighter to take Zuffa to task. UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture resigned from the organization on Oct. 11, citing compensation and poor treatment within the company as his main motivations. Couture walked away from his title, two contracted fights and a separate employment contract for commentating and promotional duties. Zuffa filed suit with Couture last Monday for breach of his employment contract.

A polarizing former UFC light heavyweight champion, Ortiz confirmed he will face Lyoto Machida (12-0) at a UFC event on Saturday, May 24 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The bout will satisfy the final fight of his UFC contract.

Expecting a rematch with “The Ultimate Fighter 2” winner Rashad Evans, Ortiz (15-5-1) said he begrudgingly accepted the bout with the Japanese-Brazilian fighter who toppled PRIDE sensation Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou with a second-round submission at UFC 79 “Nemesis” on Dec. 29 in Las Vegas.

“I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight,” said Ortiz. “I got pressed into it, and all of a sudden, it’s all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won’t fight Machida. I’m just looking to get my final fight over with the UFC.”

Ortiz has headlined 17 of his 20 UFC appearances since he stepped into the Octagon at UFC 13 “Ultimate Force” in May 1997. Energetic and captivating, Ortiz became the UFC’s light heavyweight champion after his victory against future PRIDE Fighting Championships star Wanderlei Silva at UFC 25 in April 2004. A poster boy for the promotion, he lost the title to Chuck Liddell (21-5) via a second-round TKO at UFC 47 four years later.

Ortiz’s rematch against Liddell at UFC 66 in December 2006 remains the largest UFC pay-per-view to date, with a reported 1,000,050 buys. The event also holds the North American record for paid attendance, with 12,191 fans shelling out $5,397,300 to see the former friends rumble. The 33-year-old said he’s banked over $ 1 million per fight in his latest outings, but that half those wages go to taxes and training expenses.

Money has always been at the root of a rocky relationship with Zuffa officials. In 2003, Ortiz held out on a pay raise from the Las Vegas promotion in favor of a supporting movie role in a sequel to “The Crow." Ortiz eventually returned to the fold, but the relationship remained strained.

Ortiz’s troubles with the promotion have become public fodder, particularly with his former manager turned UFC president Dana White, who has belittled the fighter and his girlfriend, Jenna Jameson -- the world’s most recognizable porn star -- in numerous interviews.

The clash between promoter and fighter came to a head last fall, when Spike TV aired a special documenting a regulated boxing session the two were to have had in a Las Vegas gym. Ortiz said he pulled out of the bout ahead of time, claiming compensation for the publicity stunt was never agreed upon. The cameras rolled with White waiting at the scales.

Nearing the end of his contract last year, Ortiz opted to go back to the table with UFC majority owner Lorenzo Fertitta. Subsequent negotiations stalled.

“They said I wasn’t worth the money,” said Ortiz. “I was worth no more than what I’m getting paid now, and I’m not a commodity to them anymore. I’m not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect.”

Ortiz also believes White's ill feelings towards him will most likely prevent the fighter from getting a shot at the UFC title again.

"With Dana in charge, I don't think that fight will ever happen for me," said Ortiz. "Dana has bad blood for me and nothing but bad blood. They're going to try and ruin me."

Often at the center of controversy in the sport, bleached-blonde wrestler Ortiz, 33, has managed to stay in the spotlight despite his inactivity. After his heated July 7 draw with “The Ultimate Fighter 3” reality TV series winner Rashad Evans (11-0-1) at UFC 73 “Stacked” in Sacramento, Ortiz (15-5-1) landed a stint on NBC’s “The Celebrity Apprentice,” alongside KISS frontman Gene Simmons and actor Stephen Baldwin. The show is now in its third week, with Ortiz donating his earnings to the St. Jude’s Children's Hospital.

“UFC is caring so much about the brand itself,” said Ortiz. “They could care less about the fighters. Fighters are a dime a dozen. They’ll keep coming. Dana is really out for himself and the company. He doesn’t give a s--t about the fighters.”

[herrmag]

Tito is ****ing? Wow, there's a surprise. He should be happy anybody is paying to see him fight. It'll be fun to watch Machida GnP him.

That being said, Tito's probably correct in his gripe. Unfortunately, I just can't stand that whiny piece of ****.

[Chachie]

Tito is ****ing? Wow, there's a surprise. He should be happy anybody is paying to see him fight. It'll be fun to watch Machida GnP him.

That being said, Tito's probably correct in his gripe. Unfortunately, I just can't stand that whiny piece of ****.

I think Jenna's calling the shots now.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

I think Jenna's calling the shots now.

I bet she's still taking the "shots" too.

[Chachie]

I bet she's still taking the "shots" too.

LOL!!!!

[mvisit1]

I agree with Tito and Couture. I always got the feeling that they weren't getting paid as much as boxers and now we have confirmation. I think I heard De La Hoya and Mayweather each made something like $10 million for their last fight? The UFC is bigger than boxing now! More excitement, more viewers: PPV and regular TV (Ultimate Figher reality show), more merchandise, more students (pretty much every martial arts school is adding an MMA program now), etc...If it's the giant that we all know it is, wouldn't you like to see your favorite fighter getting a bigger cut instead of Dana White making all the $$$???

[StillUnknown]

UFC 80 gifs:

Rivera vs. Grove:

^^^^Grove has one of the weakest chins in MMA, he's been the victim of a few highlight reel KO's

Gouveia vs. Lambert:

^^^you couldn't see that angle in the live fight. that is a perfectly placed shot

Davis vs. Liaudin:

^^^^time to give Davis somebody in the top10 to see where Davis really stands. He's one like 11 straight but not against quality comp.

BJ Penn vs. Stevenson:

^^^alot of blood

Penn is a vampire:

Mother approved: