LoyalSoldier Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I thought I would come back and visit here. It is a long offseason. It was a nice board to be around and I can proudly say I avoided Bronco Billy during the week you played the Broncos. Any rate I was currious of what you guys thought of the trade. Our first round last year for yours this year. Do you think it was a good deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Well considering we had to make a decision with Ramsey this offseason, and Brunell's not getting any younger. Getting Campbell a year under his belt so that this season he should be waiting in the wings, and when the opportunity presents itself hopefully he'll be ready to take the reigns, was probably the best decision to make. Having said all that, I think it was a good move for us, and you guys definitely, because we don't have to set ourselves back a season by trying to draft a QB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Can't really say until we see Jason Campbell in some real-time game experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonef1de Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 We'll I'd say the jury is still out until we see Campbell on the field in the regular season. It's not like we gave a 1st rounder away we just took our QB a year early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonef1de Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I thought I would come back and visit here. It is a long offseason. It was a nice board to be around and I can proudly say I avoided Bronco Billy during the week you played the Broncos. Any rate I was currious of what you guys thought of the trade. Our first round last year for yours this year. Do you think it was a good deal? Bet you thought that pick was gonna be a top 10. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.M.F. Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Too early to tell, we don't know who you will pick and JC looks good but is hardly tested yet. Ask again in 2 years... You guys getting our fourth pick as well might tip the scales in your favour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 too early to tell, though i would venture to say that the broncos fans, and more than likely the broncos management that made the deal, were probably counting on at least a top 15 pick, probably top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Any rate I was currious of what you guys thought of the trade. Our first round last year for yours this year. Do you think it was a good deal? It looks like a good deal for both teams. Just like the Bailey for Portis trade was a good deal for both teams. We needed a young QB to groom and you guys are sitting pretty with two #1 picks in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpnasty Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Bet you thought that pick was gonna be a top 10. :laugh: i know right :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Ok lot of touchy feely diplomacy going on here. Bottomline, Denver can't be too happy with this trade now. At the time of the trade it slightly favoured the Skins, them going on to the play-offs and lowering the pick all the way to 22 really unbalanced it. As has been pointed out, Bronco's management may have believed they would be getting a top ten pick (I know for a fact their fans thought that) and #22 has to be a big disappointment. BTW who we drafted has nothing to do with it we traded our picks for Denvers pick (not Jason Campbell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Seems like an excellent trade for the Skins. Brunell is on his last legs. Gibbs clearly didn't like Ramsey. So we got our QB of the future a year early and you got a pick this year that was pretty much in the same exact spot you gave us. I'm sure at the time you all thought it was going to be a top 5 or top 10 pick. Too bad. By the way, how's Tatum Bell working out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 With the benefit of hindsight, it was a solid move. The Skins got their man last year and gave up a mid-late 1st rounder to get him. Of course this could be revisited if Campbell never pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscmtp Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 it was a VERY good move for the Skins. If/When Campbell starts this year, he has the benefit of a full year learning how the NFL works, both on and off the field. And as said, I'm sure Denver thought they were getting a top 10 pick. I couldn't be happier with how things turned out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicealot Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 This was definitely a good move for the Broncos. Not so much b/c of the frst round placement, but because of the depth of the draft this year; particularly in the early rounds. HOPEFULLY, it will turn out to be a bonanza for the REdskins but the jury is still out b/c J. Campbell hasn't taken a snap yet... :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I am anticipating seeing Campbell in action...so hurry up preseason! We don't know what you guys are going to get yet. It's looking like the draft is going to be a bit heavy on the defensive side so what do you think you might go for? I would think you'll need a new safety to start grooming. Lynch has always been impressive but he is getting a little long in the tooth. I am guessing another dlineman is also going to be on your list. Otherwise you guys will be in that dreaded CAP HELL next year right alongside us! :laugh: Let's resurect this discussion after draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 If we had not made the trade not only would we not have the QB we wanted with a year under his belt but we would have to trade up this year to get one of the top 3 QBs available which in all likelyhood would take as much or more than we gave up last year. And for the record I like Campbell a whole lot more than Jay Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 guys have we forgetten that we gave up more than a 1st round choice to get jason campebell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 guys have we forgetten that we gave up more than a 1st round choice to get jason campebell. We did not give up a first round pick for Jason Campbell. We gave up a 3rd and a 4th rounder to use this year's first rounder a year earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnhnyy Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 And for the record I like Campbell a whole lot more than Jay Cutler. I would not go as far saying that. Jason Campbell was never menetioned as a first-rounder in major sources before draft while Jay Culter is a sure top-10 pick in this draft. I would take Jay Culter over JC anyday. It is a good trade for Denver (#25 for #22 plus a No.3 and a No.4). The value of Our three pick is 1060 while the value of #25 is only 750. Had we kept the pick, we could possibly move up to top 10-15 (if J Culter or Vince Y falls) by trading our No.1 and NO.2 together. For No.3 pick last year, we could select Canty or Foxworth (CB)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 for the time being- yes. both teams greatly benefited from the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would not go as far saying that. Jason Campbell was never menetioned as a first-rounder in major sources before draft while Jay Culter is a sure top-10 pick in this draft. I would take Jay Culter over JC anyday.It is a good trade for Denver (#25 for #22 plus a No.3 and a No.4). The value of Our three pick is 1060 while the value of #25 is only 750. Had we kept the pick, we could possibly move up to top 10-15 (if J Culter or Vince Y falls) by trading our No.1 and NO.2 together. For No.3 pick last year, we could select Canty or Foxworth (CB)... I really don't get the love for Cutler by a lot of people. He actually reminds me quite a bit of Patrick Ramsey coming out of college. Even if we hadn't taken Campbell I would rather not take him if he fell to the 2nd round. I just don't think he will be a great NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would not go as far saying that. Jason Campbell was never menetioned as a first-rounder in major sources before draft while Jay Culter is a sure top-10 pick in this draft. I would take Jay Culter over JC anyday.It is a good trade for Denver (#25 for #22 plus a No.3 and a No.4). The value of Our three pick is 1060 while the value of #25 is only 750. Had we kept the pick, we could possibly move up to top 10-15 (if J Culter or Vince Y falls) by trading our No.1 and NO.2 together. For No.3 pick last year, we could select Canty or Foxworth (CB)... Just so everything is clear, Cutler is by no means asure top ten pick. Secondly, your math as it concerns the trade are way off. Washington got 1st(25)=720 pts Denver got 1st(22)= 360 pts(future picks are devalued by one round(54) 3rd(76)= 210 4th(119)= 30 (value of pick 155) Based on the way picks are valued by the chart we made out like bandits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grundle Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would not go as far saying that. Jason Campbell was never menetioned as a first-rounder in major sources before draft while Jay Culter is a sure top-10 pick in this draft. I would take Jay Culter over JC anyday.It is a good trade for Denver (#25 for #22 plus a No.3 and a No.4). The value of Our three pick is 1060 while the value of #25 is only 750. Had we kept the pick, we could possibly move up to top 10-15 (if J Culter or Vince Y falls) by trading our No.1 and NO.2 together. For No.3 pick last year, we could select Canty or Foxworth (CB)... I'd bet money that Campbell turns out to be a better pro than Cutler. Stellar career at Auburn vs. stellar career at Vanderbilt? Come on now. Cutler is a mirror image of Patrick Ramsey with how his draft stock rose after his senior year at a crappy school. I'd be horrified if we picked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 we wont know until we see how good jason is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I think the Broncos have to be happy with the deal either way. I'm sure they were banking on a top 15 pick, however with two 1st round picks it gives them more room to make deals. maybe the texans will trade for two 1st round picks (not likely) but I'm just throwing out scenarios. BTW, Denver got damn lucky in week 4 of last season. A couple of bad calls (like Patten's interferance) and we would have won that game. So how are you guys liking The Snake now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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