Ryman of the North Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 DO WE EVEN NEED TO DRAFT THIS YEAR? Ok point 1-we dont draft terribly well after the second round anyway. Point 2- We havent just signed Old vets near the end of the line instead we signed young guys with lots of upside. free agency was like an awesome draft for us this year. Point3-If we trade Ramsey for abraham our only weakness is depth at corner and one more dominant Olineman who are tough spots to draft for anyway. I am normally a huge Draft guy and I believe that bulding thru the draft is the best way LONG term, however, Gibbs has always been awesome at evaluating NFL talent and at trading and signing guys who will fit (2 best trade in NFL history are Schroeder for Lachey and Oliphant for Byner.) God its good to be a skins fan again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash22 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I think they need the draft for depth perposes. If you can get some linebackers, Olinemen and a corner then this team is looking good (maybe D'well jackson in the 2nd round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Myself, I would give up most if not all pics in the draft. I much rather get a proven player then a crap shoot with new players commin into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Fully agree. why waste a pick on a crap shoot. Besides, you can find just as many gems in the undrafted rookies. If it means giving up our picks for a proven player who still has many yeahs left, then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 We still need some young dlinemen, and developmental backup guys. I think the balance of free agency to draft importance is tilted too heavily towards free agency. Shows either a lack of patience or a lack of faith in their ability to evaluate college guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 damn i guess u forget about tom brady, jerry rice and all the other hof who fell near the bottom of their drafts. i mean i would not want any of those players. Drafts are were u get HOF that potentially change a franchsie for years to come. Maybe for the good or the bad of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 so what do you propose we do with our picks? sure, if we can get a proven vet for our picks, i'd take it, but we don't have a lot to offer. maybe we could just give them to denver? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autographcollector Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I'd prefer to be in the playoffs every year....buying guys in free agency hasn't exactly won us any championships....it hasn't created a team environment. I am as happy as anyone else on this board but come on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Okay. Well. This whole thinking thing at this time of the morning, ( MST thankyou), is a bit of a request,( Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean this time of am? ), but I can give it a try. * Then again..... :yawnee: The guys being signed, for the most part, are pretty young themselves. Consider if the Skins had drafted them. Most would be coming into their own over the past year or so. Still have alot of football left in them, ( read future). I like the idea of drafting some players as well, some homegrown talent if you will. That and it sure makes draft day a little less boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaldeje Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 damn i guess u forget about tom brady, jerry rice and all the other hof who fell near the bottom of their drafts. i mean i would not want any of those players. Drafts are were u get HOF that potentially change a franchsie for years to come. Maybe for the good or the bad of the team. Right, along with all the other late round picks that are huge sucess stories. I have often wondered this myself: why not draft the guys you would normally draft in the late rounds in the first round? I mean, Tom Brady and Jerry Rice MAY be exceptions, but why take chances? I think you may have revolutionized the entire drafting process. To the point of this thread. I agree, why draft? As long as we can fill in some O-line depth and CB depth, go for it. If we trade our 2nd rounder for Abraham, we will have got a player in return who should be better than most rookie projects. This makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan978 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 If Cedric Griffin from Texas is still there in the draft I say we should draft him, and pick up a OL in the 5th round and mold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You need to draft players in the later rounds if for no other reason than to field your practice squad. You can't put together a scout team full of veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwebst1 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I'm a big proponent in the draft because finding a 3rd rounder, like Cooley for example, is far cheaper than going out and paying every free agent 10 mill guaranteed money and 5.5 mill per season. You have to have some young, lower priced guys on your team in order to not have to worry about restructures and getting money back from guys like Lavar every year. If our players would have said no, we would have been screwed. I'd rather play it safe so you don't have to rely on those type of things. But I can understand the other side too..... as long as we are not setting ourselves up for the dreaded cap hell that all of us have heard about for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Honestly, I would give serious consideration to packaging up all our picks for additional picks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeenzfan Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You need a balance between Free agency and draft. The lower rounds of the draft can yield players who can contribute to the team while only consuming 300K or so of the salary cap. I think the 2nd,3rd and 4th round are the most important rounds as you can get starting caliber players for cheap. Smoot, jansen, betts, cooley, dockrey are good examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsunami001 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Signing people you drafted (for the depth we need) is much cheaper than doing it soley through free agency. Though it may seem like we work the cap, there still is a cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsman4u Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 DO WE EVEN NEED TO DRAFT THIS YEAR?Ok point 1-we dont draft terribly well after the second round anyway. Point 2- We havent just signed Old vets near the end of the line instead we signed young guys with lots of upside. free agency was like an awesome draft for us this year. Point3-If we trade Ramsey for abraham our only weakness is depth at corner and one more dominant Olineman who are tough spots to draft for anyway. I am normally a huge Draft guy and I believe that bulding thru the draft is the best way LONG term, however, Gibbs has always been awesome at evaluating NFL talent and at trading and signing guys who will fit (2 best trade in NFL history are Schroeder for Lachey and Oliphant for Byner.) God its good to be a skins fan again. And the last and final: We'll score some points in the up coming season We don't have any depth at pretty much any position--espeacially OL/DL/LB/CB, depending on what they do with Clark and Taylor's trial out come; We better win the SB in two years, no I don't see that happening, but if we don't then we'll be about 40m over the salary cap. If it takes SB aspirations to keep you as a fan then you aren't--at least a real Redskin fan. I see Philly standing in the way and possibly NY Giants/ Panthers of any SB Our spending habits are not Randle EL won't see the end of his contract...not to mention some of those other big tickets that's out there...so we'll end up paying folks salaries that are no longer currently with us---"agaain". So let's hold off those SB thoughts for a while like 30yrs. THE LA Curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyparris63 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 you need the draft because i dont think your veterans enjoy playing special teams and just for the depth. and occasionally you find an Antonio perce in the bunch and a cooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I agree with the logic you have. I think you trade whatever assets you can (including draft picks) to get the established players you want as long as they are still in the prime of their career. Then, you draft special teams and depth guys with whatever draft picks you have left over. Good thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimFolk Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yes we need the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yes we need the draft Right, but can't it be more of a supplement than the main way we acquire talent and still be successful? Why can't the draft simply fill out our roster and provide us with depth and special team players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 We don't need to draft for this year, but we should. The Skins need to develop some players. Letting them play under the good vets for a couple years helps develop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Myself, I would give up most if not all pics in the draft. I much rather get a proven player then a crap shoot with new players commin into the league. that's exactly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I thort that teams in the NFL had to draft players....isnt it a rule or something Hail all things redskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 The best thing to come out of the draft is BEER. Take the proven player if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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