jbooma Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Because of the debacle of all of last year how important is it for Gibbs to show much of the revamped O in the preseason this year, and how long do you think he needs to have Ramsey play to make sure he is ready?? I posted last year I though one of the problems in the season was the fact Gibbs didn't show anything and the team used the first month as an extended preseason. This year I think he has to show much of it, not all of it but a nice chunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I would agree with you. Its not that he has to "show" it, its that the team needs to practice under live fire game conditions. HOF44 Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by jbooma I posted last year I though one of the problems in the season was the fact Gibbs didn't show anything and the team used the first month as an extended preseason. That's what I thought last year too. As it turned out he did show it...we just didn't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAVENS_SUCK_HUN Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm fine with him not showing the offense in preseason. We need all the advantage we can get. I know Gibbs and he will be "vanilla" as much as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I want Neopolitan with sprinkles and oreos and heath bars..., no more Vanilla. j/k *lol* Whatever Gibbs decides to do, I'm good with/agree with his methodology, he'll get er done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm on the fence with this one. Of course, I see the logic in holding back until the first game of the season. However, I think Gibbs has always had an evolving, gameplan-type offense where he puts new things in to exploit specific matchups. I wouldn't mind them running some of the plays since it would be good to face live bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Good question. I expect to see the adjusted running and passing game as it would fit into a vanilla offense. In other words, I think we'll see some of the new blocking schemes used on basic plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I just hope he doesn't show his O face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBig_E Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think Coach Gibbs will be pretty basic with the pre-season gameplan. I do believe that he will show some stretch plays...basic GO routes for the fans to confirm that the offense is going to take more shots down the field. His more elaborate formations and motion schemes will stay under wraps until opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 He needs to show it, he needs to test it. We can't wait until week 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, to find out if our offense works. If we can't move the ball against the panthers and the steelers, even though they are very good defenses, we've got problems, and need to fix them asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by Monte51Coleman That's what I thought last year too. As it turned out he did show it...we just didn't have one. hahaha, how true. i can remember being at the last pre-season game last year, and saying, "man, i can't wait till they open this up"...then saying that after every game. i think we will see more offense in the pre-season this year and more of Ramsey. Now we have a starter and he needs to get the reps in a live game type situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by E-Dog Night I just hope he doesn't show his O face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I don't think they need to show much at all, but what they should do is run some post patterns to try and get some good reps in with the deep ball in GAME SITUATIONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think it might actually work into the skins favor if he didn't show much in preseason just so teams would underestimate us the first couple games of the season...just my opinion though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAVENS_SUCK_HUN Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by arkowi THAT'S GREAT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Well I think he will. We thought he wasn't showing anything last preseason, but as it turned out he was. I think we'll do the same this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachSkinzFan Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I could go either way on this one. On one hand I think they need to practice the new offense in game conditions on the other hand I don't want the same thing to happen that seemed to happen with Spurrier. His Offense looked awesome in the preseason but considerably worse in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross3909 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 We will see new blocking schemes, new routes, and a good amount of new plays. What we will not see is game planning until the reg season. Gibbs will throw in this new stuff like the shotgun so his guys can get reps in live fire situations before it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 You'll certainly see some of the new stuff. But I wouldn't expect to see the whole offense rolled out with the preseason. They'll mix in new stuff with the vanilla. You have to practice somewhat with the opposition. MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaylor22 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 no he shouldnt show his O during pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think it's simply going to be necessary to test it all out against players that aren't on our team. Practice speed is NOT game speed. Practice defenses are NOT game defenses. Just exercising the offense at preseason speed is very necessary, IMO, to get the offense ready for season speed. Probably just in the first quarter, but we are gonna have to show something to know something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think he should run it in preseason. Not running it only gains you a couple of games before your opponents see it anyway. Execution is more important than surprise, IMO. That will only come through repitition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 No doubt he will test the waters a little bit to get a feel for whether the backups have got the playbook down and for executing it. Of course season planning and preseason planning are like day and night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Excellent topic here. I agree that its not so much the question of whether or not we should show it, but rather a question of us questioning it. Our offense was bad last year. Not good. Not even okay. Until such time as its "good" and proven as such, then I think we need all the live game-condition practice we can get. I feel the same way with Ramsey. I'm the biggest Ramsey fan in the world, but right now he's still just a young QB with little experience, nice potential and alot to prove. If I'm the Colts and we're talking about Peyton Manning than there's nothing to prove. Play him a series or two each preseason game to shake off the rust and then sit him down. The extra work is not going to help all that much and you risk losing a truly great player. With Ramsey, we don't risk losing a truly great player (yet, hopefully). Further, that extra practice can really help him as he's still relatively young and considering Spurrier's crazy system the guy barely has any experience playing in a more traditional system. There's much more to gain here. We're not good enough on Offense to worry about showing too much and giving things away. Even if the other team doesn't know what we are running, I'm afraid we're still not good enough to run it effectively. First, get some practice. If and when (hopefully next season or so) our offense is a top 7 or 8 offense then I think we can think about not showing too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTalon Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 If I'm the coach, then preseason is more about players than it is about the plays. Obviously, they're interrelated, but I think Gibbs will be more concerned about getting the player chemistry right and making sure he has the best possible player combination. You can't help but to show some of your offense (and defense, for that matter) in the preseason. But there will be a lot held in reserve, as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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