China Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 This kind of stuff pisses me off. The idiot should be jailed for life at a minimum. Dad Boxed With 3-Year-Old, Mom Says In Murder Trial By BEN MONTGOMERY Published: Jul 13, 2005 TAMPA - Even though the boy would shake and wet himself, his father, Ronnie Paris Jr., would box with the 3-year-old, slapping him in the head until he cried because he didn't want his son to grow up to be "a sissy,'' the boy's mother testified Monday. Others corroborated Nysheerah Paris' testimony as the prosecution built its case during the first day of the capital murder trial of Ronnie Paris Jr., 21, accused of abusing 3-year- old Ronnie Paris until the boy slipped into a coma Jan. 22. He died six days later with swelling on both sides of his brain. "He was trying to teach him how to fight,'' said Shanita Powell, Nysheerah Paris' sister. ``He was concerned that the child might be gay.'' Even Sheldon Bostic, who was Ronnie Paris Jr.'s Bible- study friend, said he warned the father several times not to play so rough with his son. "He really did what other fathers do - slap box,'' Bostic said. "He always said he didn't want his son growing up to be pushed around.'' "Did Ronnie use a term for that?'' asked Jalal Harb, an assistant state attorney. "He didn't want him to be a sissy,'' Bostic said. The prosecution's witnesses portrayed Ronnie Paris Jr. as a man who wanted more of his wife's attention, who complained about not having enough sex since the child was around and who openly questioned whether the boy was his. Witnesses also testified he lost his temper when the child was ill. The boy was sick often while in his parents' care. In 2002, the Florida Department of Children & Families placed little Ronnie in protective custody after he had been admitted to the hospital several times for vomiting. He was returned to his parents Dec. 14, five days after his third birthday. He had been with them six weeks when he died. The defense tried to shift the blame to Nysheerah Paris, who testified she was so scared someone would take her baby away that she never called police or her caseworker to report what she perceived to be abuse by Ronnie Paris Jr. It wasn't until Feb. 1, four days after little Ronnie was taken off life support, that Nysheerah Paris told police of the alleged abuse. She is charged with felony child neglect and faces a maximum of 15 years in prison. She testified that she witnessed Ronnie Paris Jr. being rough with the child several times, including once when he ``slammed'' the baby against a wall because the child was vomiting. But she said she didn't take the baby to the hospital immediately after the incidents. "I just didn't want my baby to get tooken away from me,'' she said. "I thought he was going to make it.'' Kenn Littman, an assistant public defender, asked Nysheerah Paris why she never reported the alleged abuse. "You thought that the cops were gonna put this on you if you didn't say anything?'' Littman asked. "Yes,'' she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 :doh: this is horrible. the mother should be punished for not saying anything, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Right now, as I type this the local police are searching for a 4 year old that the parents say is missing, but the police think they killed the child because there is a history of abuse. They are searching the ditches and swamplike areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Yeah, this kind of stuff makes me sick to my stomach. Its unbelievable that someone would treat a 3 year old that way because he was afraid the kid was a sissy. And the mom is equally liable, in my opinion. They said she faces up to 15 years in prison; I hope she gets every last day of it. The father should get the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by jrockster77 The father should get the needle. I don't know if he should get off that easily. How about he gets beat to death by a bunch of 3-year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 It's a real shame parents can't take better care of their kids or bring them up the right way. This guy should be in jail for a real long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 How sad....that poor kid...man, that's just sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 My stomach hurts. How sad. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I have a 3 year old and I cannot even grossly imagine doing that to my boy. This sick **** deserves a long brutal death. This rattles me to the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 This is one of the worst things that I have seen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by China I don't know if he should get off that easily. How about he gets beat to death by a bunch of 3-year olds. Hey, if the punishment is getting beaten to death by a bunch of 25 year olds, I'll be the first to sign up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 "He was trying to teach him how to fight,'' said Shanita Powell, Nysheerah Paris' sister. "He was concerned that the child might be gay.''Even Sheldon Bostic, who was Ronnie Paris Jr.'s Bible- study friend, said he warned the father several times not to play so rough with his son. "He really did what other fathers do - slap box,'' Bostic said. "He always said he didn't want his son growing up to be pushed around.'' Ok, I'm not a dad, so I was wondering...how many of you dads out there slap-box with your toddler? And if you do, does your bible-study partner say anything to you about it? Not to be glib here, but passage quoted above disturbs me greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Thats horrible, take him outside and stone him w/ small jagged rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by E-Dog Night Ok, I'm not a dad, so I was wondering...how many of you dads out there slap-box with your toddler? And if you do, does your bible-study partner say anything to you about it? Not to be glib here, but passage quoted above disturbs me greatly. Ahh... the fear of having a gay child... better toughen him up.... Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 People like that should not even be tried... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama Ahh... the fear of having a gay child... better toughen him up.... Sad. I didn't realize that continual beatings were an effective method for de-gaying infants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by E-Dog Night I didn't realize that continual beatings were an effective method for de-gaying infants. Didn't you know that beating the snot out of a kid until he cries can cure just about anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 "Ok, I'm not a dad, so I was wondering...how many of you dads out there slap-box with your toddler? And if you do, does your bible-study partner say anything to you about it? Not to be glib here, but passage quoted above disturbs me greatly." I have 3 kids. I never "slap box" with any of them, though they like to play rough. 3 year olds are for kissing and hugging on, not slapping around. The excuse that he wanted to toughen him up or make him not be gay was just an excuse. This was pure physical abuse. He ought to be restrained while his head is slapped until his brain swells and his head explodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by stevenaa This was pure physical abuse. Yep... and I'm sure that there is much more to that story then what we see here. I'd bet dollars to donuts that: (1) the parents were teenagers when they had the child (2) they are under-educated (3) they have history of abuse in the family, perhaps with both the Mother and the Father. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by E-Dog Night Yep... and I'm sure that there is much more to that story then what we see here. I'd bet dollars to donuts that: (1) the parents were teenagers when they had the child (2) they are under-educated (3) they have history of abuse in the family, perhaps with both the Mother and the Father. Very sad. You forgot to add that they were severe homophobes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama You forgot to add that they were severe homophobes. Yeah, but that falls under the under-educated part. We fear that which we do not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Well that made me lose my appetite. It seems like only stupid people are breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dks1240 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 wow, that is just horrible. that literally made my stomach sick to read. poor little guy : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg28daman Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Thats absolutely horrible. The guy should get the death penalty for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 "I just didn't want my baby to get tooken away from me,'' she said. "I thought he was going to make it.'' :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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