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  1. 20 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

    Be nice to Baltimore.  I hate the ravens but the town is great and people are good.  I do a lot of business up that way. 

     

    And, if it takes an ass kicking to motivate you, that's a problem. 

    Be nice to Baltimore?  Maaan, that's against the rules!

     

     

    And yes, sometimes it does take an ass kicking to motivate you.  Such is life.

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  2. And now for your kool-aid-drinking-unreasonably-optimistic moment:

     

    The benefit of that no-show in the landfill known as Baltimore is motivation.  What I mean is that this humbling Preseason flop should not only motivate The Players, but most importantly it should motivate The Coaches.

     

    Yes, I know they should have been motivated already.  But there are times when a good ass whuppin' achieves the best results going forward for all parties concerned.  

     

    I personally believe that this will be one of those times.  Skins'll be alright.

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  3. 29 minutes ago, Redskins Reparations said:

    Today, while I was signing Hail to the Redskins to my lovely wife, I had a flashback to my childhood while living in Virginia I remembered fans singing "fight for old dixie" instead of D.C. So I searched the internet to verify if this was the original version or just Virginians displaying their southern pride. I came across an ES thread from 2004 submitted by gridironmike asking the same question. 

     

     

    I loved the second post by Coach Williams when I realized the sarcasm on ES has always been prominent:

    "hmmm....there was another thread talking about the dixie thing.....Try to search maybe?"

     

    While reading the thread I came across some high profile members like bubba9497[[ghost]]OldskoolBoss_Hogg, and SlinginSammy HOF '63 to name a few. It got me thinking...what are some of the classic threads that have been posted but have been lost through the years. Paloffs is now, Cult of Colt?, etc... I would love to go back and read some of those old threads that made ES what it is today. Maybe this deserves its own thread but then I reconsidered...this was a random thought after all. 

    Those are...interesting thoughts.

     

    Yup.  The dixie thing is definitely on the money.

     

    Anyhooooo....

     

    shouldn't The Team be wrapping up Training Camp, or are they going back to Richmond for another couple'a days?  I seem to remember that they end Camp to begin the Preseason schedule.

  4. 1 hour ago, CTskin said:

    Random thought crossed the mind and figured this would be the proper place for it. 

     

    1) We could have been so good right now if we would have taken a/some chance(s) on players who dropped in the draft due to character concerns... A few that come to mind- Honey Badger, Lael Collins, Joe Mixon, Vontaze Burfict, LeGarret Blount, Caleb Brantley... I'm not saying we could have landed all of them, but infusing one or two of these studs on cheap rookie contracts is the perfect way to build a team. None of the aforementioned players have had issues since entering the league. Maybe I'm just not remembering the studs that had red flags at the draft who then dropped and never ended up panning out?

     

    Uhhh....I dunno about that one dog.  

     

    Now don't get me wrong here: in my opinion, a case could be made for Burfict being the best Middle Linebacker in The League - but that comes at a cost:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/low-hit-by-vontaze-burfict-leads-to-heated-fight-at-bengals-training-camp/ (2017)

    http://deadspin.com/vontaze-burfict-shamelessly-flops-gets-steve-smith-in-1789401858 (2016)

    http://deadspin.com/nfl-will-review-vontaze-burficts-latest-dirty-hit-1787874962 (2016)

    http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/steelers-move-on-after-winning-field-goal-set-up-by-att-1752062446 (2015 Post Season)

    https://twitter.com/CharlieBatch16/status/676109712107159552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw (2015)

    http://deadspin.com/vontaze-burfict-is-back-to-committing-post-play-misdeme-1645592298 (2014)

    http://deadspin.com/vontaze-burfict-draws-a-penalty-with-a-ball-tap-1367347719 (2013)

     

    While I understand the point you're trying to make here @CTskin, I would argue that we're better off not being the type of Organization that constantly brings in problem guys, troublemakers, & malcontents.  Would you really want The Redskins Players behaving like the Cincinnattis of The NFL?  I wouldn't.  

     

    Besides...we've got Ballplayers here too.  And they don't go out like that (be advised, I'm sure we'd agree that Norman gets singled out but is NOT a troublemaker).  

     

    I'm glad.

     

     

    6 minutes ago, CTskin said:

    All of the guys I mentioned were steals of their drafts, but we've always shied away from players with red flags. I think we need to change that.

    I strongly disagree.  I wouldn't want to bring in guys that have the potential to bring those kinds of headaches to DC.

     

    My regards to Ashburn for steering clear of low character guys.

  5. I stole this from the comments section of a story on The Skins in The Post:

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    No_Punt__lntended
     
     
     
     
    Interesting tidbit: 
     
    Starting this week (Thursday) there will be Redskins football each week for the next 20 of 21 weeks
     
    YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ...more
     

    I'll take it! :815:

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  6. 23 hours ago, redskinss said:

    After the way last season ended and our typical offseason shenanigans i wasn't really expecting a whole lot from the redskins but im a little surprised by how much less is expected of them by the media.

    The pft preseason rankings put them at 25th.

    I just saw an article predicting 5 and 11.

    I've seen a bunch more with about the same predictions.

    Maybe these are all true but with cousins still coming back and no real reaosn to think we won't still have a very good offense that has for the most part been together for several years.

    Combine that with all of the seaming improvements on defense im a little surprised that we arent at least expected to still hover around 500 style mediocrity. 

    I'm coining a new term for this - Redskins Bias. :angry:

     

    There's no other way to explain it.  Taking a step back would be a reasonable call from a national press outfit due to this or that factor.  

     

    But 5-11???

     

    That's pure nonsense!  I expect us to be competitive again this year - but of course we get poormouthed by the Football Press.

     

    ...in other news, scientists predict that this summer will continue to be hot & we can expect chilly temperatures this coming winter.

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  7. 5 hours ago, PokerPacker said:

    (not quoting the whole thing)

     

    We cannot let our society be held back just because there is a small subset of people benefitting from its inefficiency.  What we do need is a retraining program to help people who's jobs have been lost to improved efficiency.

    While I do agree with the highlighted portion, there can be no doubt that massive job elimination in any industry can not only cripple certain segments of the society, but also affect specific communities - as well as erode the tax base of an entire state. (examples would be the [former] industrial Midwest & the Appalachian states of Kentucky, West Virginia, & parts of Virginia - after the collapse of the coal economy). 

     

    Retraining programs typically don't reach the most affected workers, ie those older workers that have developed and honed an obsolete skill set.  The younger workers typically move on more easily, since they weren't as heavily invested career wise.  In other words, some have the ability and wherewithal to move on, but not everyone can be saved.  Previous instances of economic dislocation have proved this.

     

    As I have said before, there is a cascading effect.  My intent is not to cry gloom & doom, but to illuminate a serious issue that most of us don't know is coming.

  8. 2 hours ago, PeterMP said:

     

    The assumption is that the automation results in the eliminating the job vs. keeping the job and the automated system or finding something new for the worker to do.

     

    Your assumption is that the banks fired tellers after the adaption of ATM machines.  Right, if ATM machines cost jobs that means banks fired those people.

     

    And they didn't keep the same number of tellers which shortened lines to get a teller or turned those tellers into something else that allowed them to offer more/new services in a more effective manner.

     

    The data we have disagrees with your assumptions.

     

    It is certainly possible that in the future that automation and AI will cause wide spread unemployment.  That doesn't appear to have happened in the past and does not appear to be happening now.

    It looks as though we disagree on this issue.  And that's fine with me - I have my beliefs and you have yours.  That is simply the nature of things.

     

    However...

     

    1) In your response, you mentioned that the data disagrees with my assumptions.

    2 hours ago, PeterMP said:

    The data we have disagrees with your assumptions.

    Thing is, those weren't MY assumptions!  They are the comments of a poster in the comments section of the link that YOU shared.  Here they are again, for your convenience:

    23 hours ago, Diehard Otis said:
     
    Stan Sorscher · 
    Robot are not the issue. The issues are where are new jobs created, and who gets the gains from productivity?

    ATMs replaced bank tellers. Online airplane check-in replaced gate agents; telephone operators were replaced by electronic telephone switches. Online shopping replaces retail clerks. Longshore workers were replaced in droves by containerized shipping.

    Only Longshore workers were able to claim their share of gains - today, the few remaining longshore workers are paid handsomely to load and unload containers from giant (robotic) structures at the port. Longshore workers have a strong union, fierce solidarity, and their jobs are hard to export to Mexico.

    You are taking issue with HIS remarks, in your post; not mine.

     

    2) As I mentioned earlier, you are free to disagree with me as you see fit.  Obviously, you do not need me to tell you this.  However, I must ask you respectfully - did you bother to read any of the links I shared in any of my posts?  Because speaking honestly, it appears doubtful that you have (based upon your subsequent commentary).  

     

    The link you provided was an opinion editorial of the author's views on the subject--specifically 'robots'.

     

    But of the 11 links in my posts that I have shared to buttress my argument, 

    -1 was to another ES thread on a separate topic, but showed the effects of a local economy that collapsed due to the erosion of jobs from a defunct industry.  I personally felt it was relevant to the discussion.

    -1 was an article that refers to an Op-Ed by Stephen Hawking, whose views on the matter I concur with. 

    -1 was a report from Technology Review, an M.I.T site that...well, discusses technology based (and related) issues.

    -5 were articles pulled from standard press outlets--that are generally agreed upon to be credible--that have done serious reporting on this issue.

    -1 is a report from the Global Center for Digital Business Transformation, in partnership with Cisco that details the conclusions from their joint study (in PDF form, although it can be read through your browser - no need to download anything).

    -1 is a piece by an industry group that quotes Google on this issue.

    -1 a quote from the Op-Ed that Hawking wrote himself

     

    Here are those links again for your perusal:

    http://es.redskins.com/topic/414355-wp-disabled-and-disdained-plus-all-things-white-rural-america/

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/the-real-reason-for-disappearing-jobs-isnt-trade-its-robots.html

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/515926/how-technology-is-destroying-jobs/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/upshot/the-long-term-jobs-killer-is-not-china-its-automation.html

    http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-hawking-ai-automation-middle-class-jobs-most-dangerous-moment-humanity-2016-12

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/upshot/as-robots-grow-smarter-american-workers-struggle-to-keep-up.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/01/stephen-hawking-dangerous-time-planet-inequality

    http://www.businessinsider.com/robots-will-steal-your-job-citi-ai-increase-unemployment-inequality-2016-2?r=UK&IR=T

    https://www.fowcommunity.com/blog/future-work/5-industries-being-most-affected-artificial-intelligence

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/17/man-vs-machine-ai-could-put-you-out-of-a-job.html

    http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/industry-solutions/digital-vortex-report.pdf

    (and this excludes the 3 links referenced in a quote used in one of those prior posts)

     

    In summary, my point in this is to prove that there are many well placed & prominent people, organizations, educational institutions, and press outlets that believe this to be a legitimate issue going forward in the modern information-based economy (that means that it will also be an issue in other countries besides ours).  I believe this to be the case as well.

     

    And here in my post, I have provided some proof to validate my claim(s).

     

     So my question to you is, where's your proof?
     

     

  9. 4 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

    For now, at least :P 

     

    it was understandable why Morris was cut and replaced by Jones though. At the time, Morris hadn't had a good season in like two years, and jones was supposed to be a very good RB. 

    Going purely by memory here...

     

    I believe that Alfred didn't have a "good season" his last year here because he was never allowed to get into a rhythm during ballgames.  I remember several times that during that season, The Skins would give him the ball between the Tackles, and he'd get like a 2 Yard Gain, then get pulled to the sidelines for 10 or 15 plays.  It was crazy!

     

    But I am definitely not bitter about it.

    -----------------------------------------

    I almost forgot-

     

    Thank you @Cooleyfan1993 for answering my question.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Elessar78 said:

    I work for a company that creates machines that, essentially, replaces people. Has done so for at least 30 years, if not longer. 

     

    In the past two years, automation replacing people has been a steady topic of lunch time conversation. We've read books on the topic, in fact. There has to be a shift. A shift in governance and taxation. A shift in mindset. 

     

    One of the more positive outcomes that we've discerned is the rise of the creative class. If people are going to be truly unemployed by machinery they'll need to become productive somehow—possibly creating content for all that leisure time. 

     

    No, it probably won't be painless. Big wars have broken out coinciding with the big societal shifts. In fact, we're in the midst of one now (Information Age) and the metrics for things like this don't look great that there WON'T big a big, global war. The big extinction event has been on the table since the guys at Los Alamos figured things out. 

    Thank you for sharing @Elessar78.  And I cannot quibble with your views above much, if at all.  

     

    And as you note yourself, we must be aware of the costs that are associated with the benefits.  That's where I am.  

     

    Again, I am no Luddite!  In fact, I believe that the ultimate security is achieved when everyone (that wants to) has equal access to opportunity and prosperity.  Given that belief, I wouldn't mind keeping some inefficient processes in place if it meant that my neighbor could keep his job & maintain his standard of living (and his field remained a net contributor towards economic productivity).  

     

    Yet I know that this will not be the case going forward.

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    1 hour ago, PeterMP said:

     

     

    http://cepr.net/publications/op-eds-columns/the-data-defying-job-killing-robot-myth

     

    "The story of mass displacement of workers by robots is a story of rapid productivity growth. Robots are supposed to be doing the work formerly done by people. This means that we should be seeing far more output for each hour of human labor. This is something we can easily check, since the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) puts out data on productivity growth every quarter.

    Rather than going through the roof as the robot story would imply, productivity growth has fallen through the floor. It's averaged just 1.2 percent annually in the last 10 years and 0.6 percent in the last five years. By comparison, productivity growth averaged 3 percent in both the decade from 1995 to 2005 and the long Golden Age from 1947 to 1973.

    It's possible to point to many great advances in technology. It's also possible in future years that innovations like driverless cars will lead to mass displacement of workers, but to date the data are very clear: this mass displacement is not happening. Insofar as people are seeing job opportunities disappear, it is due to factors other than robots.

    It actually would be a good thing if we did see more rapid productivity growth. The period from 1947 to 1973 was a period of low unemployment and rapid wage growth. Workers were able to capture the benefits of rapid productivity growth in higher pay."

    I disagree with Dean Baker here (the author of this Op-Ed).

     

    In fact, one of the posters in the comments section wrote this:

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    Stan Sorscher · 
    Robot are not the issue. The issues are where are new jobs created, and who gets the gains from productivity?

    ATMs replaced bank tellers. Online airplane check-in replaced gate agents; telephone operators were replaced by electronic telephone switches. Online shopping replaces retail clerks. Longshore workers were replaced in droves by containerized shipping.

    Only Longshore workers were able to claim their share of gains - today, the few remaining longshore workers are paid handsomely to load and unload containers from giant (robotic) structures at the port. Longshore workers have a strong union, fierce solidarity, and their jobs are hard to export to Mexico.

    @PeterMP

     

    Although I specifically mentioned 'robots' in my earlier post, it was a colorful way of referring to the automation taking place in the modern economy due to technological improvements.  Saying robots is just easier.

     

    In that light, there are a great many individuals that have expressed varying degrees of reservation, including:

     

    Steven Hawking
    "the automation of factories has already decimated jobs in traditional manufacturing, and the rise of artificial intelligence is likely to extend this job destruction deep into the middle classes, with only the most caring, creative or supervisory roles remaining."
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/01/stephen-hawking-dangerous-time-planet-inequality

     

    Erik Brynjolfsson (M.I.T. economist)
    "This is the biggest challenge of our society for the next decade."

    &

    Lawrence H. Summers
    "This isn’t some hypothetical future possibility.  This is something that’s emerging before us right now.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/upshot/as-robots-grow-smarter-american-workers-struggle-to-keep-up.html

     

    In fact 

    -- A report put out in February 2016 by Citibank in partnership with the University of Oxford predicted that 47% of US jobs are at risk of automation. In the UK, 35% are. In China, it's a whopping 77% — while across the OECD it's an average of 57%.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/robots-will-steal-your-job-citi-ai-increase-unemployment-inequality-2016-2?r=UK&IR=T

     

    -- According to recent research from the Global Center for Digital Business Transformation, executives across 12 industries predict an average time to disruption of 3.1 years.
    http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/industry-solutions/digital-vortex-report.pdf

     

    -- Google estimates robots will reach levels of human intelligence by 2029, and IT research firm Gartner estimates that by 2025, one-third of jobs will be replaced by robots and smart machines.
    https://www.fowcommunity.com/blog/future-work/5-industries-being-most-affected-artificial-intelligence

     

    -- As technology and artificial intelligence (A.I.) advances, jobs in banks and offices are set to be replaced by automation, according to industry experts.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/17/man-vs-machine-ai-could-put-you-out-of-a-job.html

     

     

    I think you get the idea.  With all due respect, we disagree on this issue my friend.

  11. Don Quixote lives!  I like the spirit of worrying about the poor displaced, and yet we live with much more free time, more disposable income, and higher quality of life than any time in history. This is due to the march of history and increases in technology.  The march of tech allowed us to prove Malthus wrong. We need technology to continue to advance. I celebrate it while still worrying for the displaced.

    I can get with this to some extent - thank you @gbear.

     

    Obviously, my lifestyle involves taking advantage of modern conveniences (I am discussing this issue on the internet in the comfort of my air-conditioned home).  Please don't misunderstand me; I like gadgets, and going places and self checkout lines too.  But I am mindful of their cost.  That is my main point.

     

    24 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

    This. We must wage war against technology and changing demographics.

     

    Also, don't forget about all of the damage being done by institutions of higher education.

    Go ahead and laugh.  But those that have studied this issue know full well what I speak of.

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  12. 1 minute ago, Elessar78 said:

    Automation is just going to accelerate. It's been happening since the industrial revolution. Jobs and needs will evolve as they'll always have. People will find ways to live productive meaningful lives. Don't fear the future.

    I agree with the highlighted portion of your comment.  There is no disputing that, since it is a fact.

     

    But I think you're being a little too dismissive here.  Automation does have a litany of social benefits.  But by the same token, there are some serious societal costs that need to be understood along with it.  When jobs get eliminated by technological improvements, they do not come back.  To wit, this excerpt from The New York Times article I referenced earlier:

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    Over time, automation has generally had a happy ending: As it has displaced jobs, it has created new ones. But some experts are beginning to worry that this time could be different. Even as the economy has improved, jobs and wages for a large segment of workers — particularly men without college degrees doing manual labor — have not recovered.

    Even in the best case, automation leaves the first generation of workers it displaces in a lurch because they usually don’t have the skills to do new and more complex tasks, Mr. Acemoglu found in a paper published in May.

    Robert Stilwell, 35, of Evansville, Ind., is one of them. He did not graduate from high school and worked in factories building parts for tools and cars, wrapping them up and loading them onto trucks. After he was laid off, he got a job as a convenience store cashier, which pays a lot less.

     

    What concerns me is that most people don't understand what far reaching effects this will have.  What scares me is how the steady erosion of jobs in this economy will affect social cohesion.  

     

    The question is, what happens to these people after their jobs disappear?  Yes, some do find other work.  Typically they find worse work (ie, lower wages and inferior benefits).  And there is a reliable spike in social welfare benefits recipients in those communities most affected.  And that is a big deal.

     

    But not to be outdone, automation is an equal opportunity job killer.  And since you guys think I'm being too paranoid, consider Stephen Hawking's views on this topic:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-hawking-ai-automation-middle-class-jobs-most-dangerous-moment-humanity-2016-12

     

    I submit that if you were to look at the available data, you may see things a bit differently.

  13. This news genuinely frightens me.

     

    My sentiment is motivated by by the damaging ripple effect it will have on the domestic economy.  

     

    If this project does indeed come to fruition and is put online, how many jobs will be permanently eliminated due to a more efficient mode of transportation (here in the most populous corridor of the country)?  And we're talking about quality, good paying, living wage jobs.  The kinds of jobs that people not only support their families with, but transportation is a field that many individuals build productive careers in.

     

    Think about it.  

     

    (For those of you that live in the Northeast) if you were to travel to New York tomorrow, how would you do it?  Would you fly?  Take a train?  A shuttle bus?  Hell...an Uber?  Well even if you drive, the very act of you travelling supports commerce and contributes to economic productivity.  Someone has been trained to fly that jet, or engineer that train, or drive that bus.  And besides, there are support jobs that must be competently filled in order to facilitate your journey.  There is a ripple effect.

     

    Now say this hyperloop is an option.  Sure, not everyone travelling to NY will consider that option, but what happens if 15% of the market does?  How many jobs will be eroded by its existence?  Will that dip in tax receipts make a noticeable difference to the states and local governments along that route?  Or would it be more of a hidden cost?

     

    Our shifting economy does have benefits.  Of course!  But there are tangible costs as well:
    http://es.redskins.com/topic/414355-wp-disabled-and-disdained-plus-all-things-white-rural-america/
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/515926/how-technology-is-destroying-jobs/
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/the-real-reason-for-disappearing-jobs-isnt-trade-its-robots.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/upshot/the-long-term-jobs-killer-is-not-china-its-automation.html

     

    Technology kills jobs.

     

    This development, along with the country's changing demographics, and the structural fragility of the economy are the most critical issues of our lifetimes.

     

    Think that's hyperbole?  Okay.  But how do you envision whole segments of our population behaving when there simply aren't enough jobs in our economy to employ folks at 2017 levels?  And to be clear here, I'm talking about people that not only want to work but participate as labor or management in our economy presently.  

     

    I fear social dislocation.  Because the robots are coming.

     

    Let me end with this: ever find yourself in the store ready to check out & you gravitate to the self-checkout line - because it's easier?

     

    Think about that.

     

  14. 1 hour ago, skinsmarydu said:

    No doubt!  I'm trying to plan a vacation so I can watch one of the preseason games with my mom in NOVA...with us at the ages we are, and having survived what she has, (****, what we both have)...well, ya never know.:dallas_sucks:

    Hail!

     

    Funny, I'm going to the Preseason Packers game with a bunch of work buddies myself.  

     

    Heck, enjoy the game!  (as always, right?)

  15. I have been lurking in this thread for a little over a day now and have decided to get off the sideline.

     

    1) As for the Minneapolis fiasco, as tragic as it is, my hope is that this latest shooting tragedy will spur some serious motivation to tackle police brutality in this country.  When I first learned about it, my instinctive reaction was anger.  And as the details trickle in, my anger has morphed into apprehension.  Speaking plainly, a Black Muslim cop killing a White Woman unjustifiably in America can transform a hot-button issue into a nuclear one.  Particularly in that local community.

     

    2) As a result of this latest scenario, I expect that the issue of officer-involved shootings to get far more intense scrutiny going forward.  From my vantage point, it seemed that the general consensus (outside of the Black Community) on these types of shootings has been one of uncomfortable indifference, in the manner of "it's terrible how they're treated, but whaddiya gonna do?"  Until now.  In fact, I agree with what Shaun King of the New York Daily News wrote in his latest Op-Ed.  Perhaps now the general public will be in reform minded mood.

     

    3) As for Black Lives Matter, I support them.  And I also generally agree with @Llevron, @grego, & @BenningRoadSkin at various points throughout the discussion (wassup Benning Road? Iverson Mall, Silver Hill & all o dat!! :)).  But frankly speaking, the out-of-control behavior of police departments throughout the country led to the creation of BLM.  The phenomenon of (typically) Brothers getting sparked on video over and over again is painful and infuriating.  I refuse to watch it.  And in addition to those videos, I've had my share of bad dealings with the  badges too.  That is, I've experienced aggressive police behavior and seen it - several times over the years.  In different states.  And it's typically done with a ****-you-what're-YOU-gonna-do? brand of arrogance.  Before AND after the cellphone camera.

     

    And I don't have a criminal record.  Furthermore, I've never committed a felonious crime, nor have I even been tried for one.  But them boys have sure been on my back.  Just like they've hassled neighbors of mine, coworkers, homeboys...you get the idea.  So when a group folks stand up & shout Black Lives Matter - I know where they're coming from.  And I support 'em.

     

    4) Lastly, I appreciate the dialog taking place in this thread; I really do.  For better or worse, it is on the various message boards on the net where the real conversations take place.  And we can all agree on this, or disagree on that.  But the bottom line is it's largely my demographic that is literally in the crosshairs every day.  

     

    For instance, have you ever woke up in the morning or gotten off work that evening and thought  I could lose the lottery today.

     

    I have.  And that's the difference.

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  16. Just now, PokerPacker said:

    Wait, seriously?  They went with a ****ing Desert Eagle to pull this off?!  No wonder Darwin stepped in.

    YES!  It is truly ridiculous, but read it for yourself here.

     

    And I quote:

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    She fired from about a foot away with a .50-caliber Desert Eagle handgun while he held the book to his chest. It did not stop the bullet, and paramedics on the scene said Ruiz died from a single gunshot wound to the chest.

    Truly defies reason & common sense, doesn't it?

  17. On 6/29/2017 at 9:33 AM, Riggo-toni said:

    https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fmorning-mix%2Fwp%2F2017%2F06%2F29%2Fhe-thought-a-book-would-stop-a-bullet-and-make-him-a-youtube-star-now-hes-dead%2F#pt0-429988

     

    He thought a book would stop a bullet and make him a YouTube star. Now he’s dead.

     

    “Our Vlogs will show you the real life of a young couple who happen to be teen parents,” the description on their channel reads. “From highs to lows. Achievements to struggles. Join the fun, Follow our journey!”

    In a Facebook post last week that included the vlog post from their trip to the fair, Perez wrote that they were in the process of making Ruiz his own YouTube channel. His would focus on “all the crazy stuff,” she wrote. La MonaLisa would be about their “family life.”

    I saw this one a few weeks ago.  The really interesting part of the story is that the gun in question was a Desert Eagle!!!

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    (for the uninitiated, that's a .50 caliber handgun - that thing has the power to pierce through a refrigerator to destroy its target!!)

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    Yup.  This firearm shoots those LARGE rounds.

     

    And those kids thought that an encyclopedia could stop that round.  It's simultaneously comical and sorrowful.

  18. 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

    Soon man, very soon! Close, but yet so very far away ?

     

    For us, vets and rookies report on the same day, the 26th. So a week from this upcoming Wednesday. Hey, that's in 10 days isn't it....

    I don't know if I can handle it! :drooley:

     

    Over the years, I have managed my Football withdrawal pretty well (baseball helps - a lot!)

     

    But I'm starting to get that feelin' again...

  19. @RedBeast Well...let me be the 1st to set it off.  

     

    As always, I'm feeling good about The Skins this year.  I confess that I haven't kept up on too much this Offseason (some of the cringeworthy stuff had me burying my head in other sporting leagues).  But from what I've come to understand, the sky hasn't fallen.  

     

    So as is the norm, I'm optimistic.

     

    When do Veterans report to Bon Secours again?

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