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3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Pick 36 + 100 to go up to 29 is my optimal spot. The last of the 1st rounded graded OTs should be available and we leapfrog three teams that are good candidates to take one. And we don't have to give up a top 70 pick to move up.

This would definitely be optimal, and the loss of 100 would be well worth getting a OT we covet.

13 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

Trade up for a LT then also take Patrick Paul in the 3rd anyone ?

I’m fine with taking two OTs as long as one of them as some positional flex to compete at guard. 

2 hours ago, Conn said:

You are certainly confused, because that trade did not happen 

Haha you’re right 

32 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said:

LOL. He said 2 days ago this was pretty much confirmed. Lets pause on posting so many of some anon on X's takes.

 

 

I’m confused, the opposite of what Schefter was reporting below would be that the trade WAS happening, and it did.

So wasn’t SearsTower correct?

With our needs at CB, and assuming we will be playing more press-man coverage (bigger, longer armed and physical CB). Any thoughts on a few CBs who would seem to fit?

Here are some guys I read about that would seem to be a fit if we are looking for that type of player:

Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri

T.J. Tampa, Iowa State

Jarvis Brownlee Jr., Louisville 

Cam Hart, Notre Dame

Khyree Jackson, Oregon

26 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

So Davis has been described as a depth guy, a reclamation project, or an absolute baller.  Having a hard time understanding just what we got here. 

@RWJ posted a great video from 2022. Would seem he is a starting press man corner. Not sure what happened last year, whether he is aging early, scheme change, etc. but if we play to his strengths and he operates in that role he should start for us (how well he does remains to be seen).

30 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I am a BPA guy.  But LT is a premiu, position and two things about this draft...

 

A.  Unusually deep for LT in the first

 

B.  Need to keep a rookie QB upright

 

Also if we skip on LT in this draft or go with a project who fails, it adds some urgency to draft LT next draft because of need considering LTs don't tend to ht the market in FA.

 

 

 

I’m fine with trading up to attack LT but I think I would prefer trading a mid round pick for Bolles if Denver makes him available and taking more of a developmental LT in the 3rd.

Just now, The Consigliere said:

I'd pay him as a FA, when I knew I had a franchise QB, and not before. Also worth noting, the '20 and '22 WR classes were fantastic, so tons of potential WR's could be out on the market the next two years, the '21 class was more hit and miss, but also had some guys. I'm fine with dipping in for guys when they are free agents, I do not want to pay trade comp, like our 2nd round pick, or anything else, AND pay them out a huge contract to boot. No thank you. 

Agree, he’s awesome no doubt but big time #1 WRs can be huge pains in the ass and if our rookie struggles initially we don’t need that WR in his ear or getting disgruntled. If the rookie QB hits big then a lot of FA WRs will want to come here and we can sign whoever we want or try and trade for a guy.

Not  a lot of Mariotta videos from last year out there lol. He didn’t play. But in preseason he still looks very fast. I don’t want him getting on the field next year but I still thought it was worth sharing.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/marcus-mariota-shows-speed-on-14-yard-run-for-first-down

33 minutes ago, philibusters said:

 

I think Forbes is a much better prospect than Noah Igbinoghene.  Noah Igbinoghene highest PFF grade in 4 seasons is 52.2.   Forbes had a 50.9 last year so whether he can become a starter remains a question, but Igbinoghene is probably the last corner on your team who makes it due to special teams if he makes it at all.   He was a developmental prospect that didn't really develop.  He was only 20 years at the start of his rookie season with decent physical tools.   But he is a case in point of why it can be dangerous to take players who were not great in college and assume you can mold them in the NFL in the first round.   Day 2 it makes sense, but day 1, it is a gamble.  A gamble that did not pay off in Miami's case.

Agree. I watched his college “highlights” which include pass breakups that could have been picks, not locating the ball in the air, and a kick return. Doesn’t look like a good CB, honestly. But as a ST guy? Sure, he’s a big time gunner, and maybe he improves.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if we took two OTs and let them compete at OT and guard.

36 minutes ago, Lovi said:

 

Eh if that’s what it took I’m not sure. That plus a big contract is a lot to swallow for this team right now, and we don’t know anything about the guy or how he wouldn’t fit on the team (lack of familiarity with coaches, etc. true mercenary). It’s a good trade for the Colts where they are but I’m not sure I would have loved it if we made that same move and big extension.

1 minute ago, NOLA2DC said:

McNabb was more of a passer than a runner. 11 seasons, 6 Pro Bowls, and a Super Bowl appearance sound like a pretty good career to me.  

Plays nothing like McNabb (or Russell) guys that ran around and made time to make throws. It’s no pressure, clean pocket, throws to wide open guys on the perimeter not in tight window, or escaping pressure eyes not downfield for throws and  running up the middle. I’ve seen the one highlight where he looks like he has the capability, so no need to link to that one throw.

This thread can be painful and then @Going Commando @Voice_of_Reason @Conn and others come through with Maye defense/ JD take downs that make me smile.

Bravo.

The only way I like the move is if their evaluation of the QBs has them liking Bo Nix or something and not liking the consensus top guys.

But it would be pretty shocking, and I think it would be terrible.

1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

Detroit at 29 could be the ideal trade partner for a LT. Based on the draft value chart, our 36 + 100 is equal exactly to #29. On top of that, its a good spot because the teams that pick 30-32(Baltimore, San Fran, and KC) are all legit OT candidates. 

Also Detroit doesn’t need a OT.

27 minutes ago, Kalu44 said:

Maybe a Garrett Bolles trade is a possibility? Was mentioned earlier in this thread (not by a reporter). Denver needs draft ammo to move up for a QB. Not sure what Bolles would fetch in compensation?

Makes a ton of sense for both sides, assuming Denver approached him about an extension and he isn’t interested. He has a big cap hit.

I would definitely check in with Denver. If they are amenable to a trade then we could reach out and try and figure out an extension for him with his agent.

I would probably trade a 5th or 6th rounder or some sort of pick swap. I actually thought we might trade Howell there.

40 minutes ago, RWJ said:

So, Coach DQ was in Tarheel Country watching today's game!  Due diligence. Hmmmm

 

 

 

 

 

Worse I think the game was in DC…

2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

The thing I like most about JD is that if you take away Daniels X factor, he's still a good prospect. Mechanically refined, progression proven, wildly prolific and great decision making as a passer. Gimmie that all day.

I agree with you.
 

Any concern that he hasn’t been weighed or measured? What height/ weight is disqualifying for you to not want him to play for our team?

At 6’3 1/2 or 6’4 what is the minimum weight you think he needs to be? 
 

And being that his is already 23, and played football at a powerhouse program, how much more weight, if any, do you think he can gain?

8 minutes ago, NOLA2DC said:

I don't disagree that arm strength is important, but I just remind folks that many great QBs don't have canons. Leaf had a bigger arm than Peyton, and Brady wasn't known for having one, either. There is a reason that most QBs are warned against throwing to the other side of the field while scrambling. It is almost like saying I want the biggest, most powerful engine, but you don't care about how the car handles in the turns. A hellcat or sact pack will dominate an M5 in a drag race but get embarrassed on a twisting track. Purdy doesn't have a big arm but almost always makes the right decision to go with the ball, so the arm strength thing,to me, is not as important as the ability and decision-making.     

But he didn’t say that. Who are you feeling the need to “remind” that arm strength isn’t the most important thing?

1 minute ago, DogofWar1 said:

I keep seeing Newsome's name, there's some smoke there.  Dunno about fire but he'd be a good grab.

Yeah we need a starting CB- if you can get one you like who is young on a LTD makes tons of sense. For them, probably tried to extend but he wants to go to FA or asking for more than they want to pay. We have the cash to extend on a LTD with nice bonus this year.

3 minutes ago, mhd24 said:

He sucks.  If Tennessee (who had as bad an OL as we did) cut him after signing him in FA to some money, then why would anyone else?

OG reclamation project?

2 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

Keep in mind the 2 overall pick holds far more currency than any other single asset others would have to offer.

Yes. Unless they like a QB later if they like one of the big 4 no guarantee they get the one they like. If they traded with us, they can be more sure.

10 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

So according to WalterFootball's latest mock, Olu Fashanu is slated to go 18 to the Bengals. I would not be opposed to sliding up to 17, if he was there.

Trading up to draft him and also signing Smith would be perfect for me. Fashanu is only 21 and needs work as a run blocker apparently but the tools (even if they aren’t top end elite) are there to be a good starting LT.