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1 minute ago, redskinss said:

You know what I just realized I've been doing to myself unconsciously. 

 

I keep thinking to myself are we being too high on this draft class, are we over valuing our late picks like we always do?

 

Then It hit me, I'm not used to our 6th pick being a 3rd rounder, I can't remember that ever happening and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how many players we just brought in that have a realistic shot of being big time contributors and not just camp crushes.

 

What a great feeling.

Yeah, usually you expect to get eventual starters from your first 3 picks (1st, 2nd, and 3rd round) and maybe a coin flip on the rest if they are contributors.

I think it’s reasonable to expect this class to net 4-5 starters.

Listening to take command podcast and Logan said if you check out his 2022 film he looked pretty damn good at OT. Overall in his career he played way more LT than guard.

I watched 2022 TCU vs Texas and he looked great at OT.

7 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said:

I think we got very lucky he couldn’t run at combine. His speed and quickness jumps off the film. I would assume high 4.7’s-low 4.9’s. May be an adjustment period for him but I love the pick.

He’s definitely 4.7-4.8 at the slowest. He was chasing QBs down. I love it.

2 hours ago, method man said:

Slater is one example. I can’t name many tackles with 33 inch arms who are studs at the position in the example. Year after year, there are college tackles with short arms who the draft community pushes as tackles in the pros and, more often than not, they move inside. Alijah Vera Tucker is a great recent example of this.

Yeah, it’s the exception versus the rule. That’s one reason I was excited to see Coleman has 34.5 inch arms and big hands.

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/brandon-coleman-2024

On 4/29/2024 at 7:12 AM, Always A Commander Never A Captain said:

 

I wasn't as enamored about Suamataia as most here, but for reference here's the RAS compare.

 

That’s wild. I didn’t even realize he was that athletic, thanks for sharing.

36 minutes ago, Conn said:

The OL isn’t good. 
 

The QB play has been bad here for most of 30 years, lots of the bad OL play has actually been 50% due to bad QB play. Including last year. 
 

The OL isn’t horrible. 

Just like when the oline was getting RG3 killed, everyone said how bad they were. Kirk came in and they looked fine.

25 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

I haven’t written off Forbes yet. I actually think he’s got major potential still, but he does need to be worried from the standpoint that he’s not this regimes pick and needs to step it up quick to impress.

Not only is he not the regime’s pick, but he doesn’t seem to fit the type of “run and hit” violent player we want. I hope we can find a role for him due to his ball skills, but it’s not going to be easy for him. He needs to make an impact quickly.

3 hours ago, BayouBrave86 said:

I think the combo of Terry and JD5 being workaholics is really going to rub off on the offense and competitiveness/desire to be the best as cliche as all that sounds. Obviously JD5 isn't going to win the vets over immediately, but when they see him putting in all the time and effort this offseason leading into training camp, etc. it's going to reinvigorate everyone and lead to a big culture shift with the coaching staff, etc. Man I'm so stoked. 

Sinnott and LMC are also big time workers. It’s  super exciting.

6 hours ago, Going Commando said:

 

Maybe.  But I think Terry is who he is at this point in his career: a bankable 1,000 yard receiver who brings superior intangibles to the table and can fit in almost in position and scheme.  That's a big piece to have, but I would be surprised if he busts out into 90 something grade territory next year, just due to having better coaching and QB play.  Ideally, guys like Terry are your second best weapon, not your only good one.

 

The book isn't written on Jahan yet... but it almost is.  If we're being realistic, it's not likely that he has the kind of breakout third year that Nico Collins had.  Third year breakouts are pretty rare for receivers.  And if Jahan doesn't significantly improve this year and give us a ton more production, then we probably need to move on.

 

Barring a surprise trade for someone like Deebo or Aiyuk, he's going to get the chance to break out though.  We don't really have anyone else to keep him on the bench or steal targets from him.

If the drops persist and/or he doesn’t grasp the offense quickly I could see lots of targets going to Sinnott, LMC and Ekeler.

6 hours ago, The Consigliere said:

Med red flags, or off the field red flags? 

My impression was something like football isn’t the most important thing to him, maturity, etc. not that he’s a criminal or a bad guy but maybe he’s not “a dude” if that makes sense. Which would make sense that we weren’t interested.

Standig on a different podcast said he thinks they liked Mimms, Morgan and Guyton and tried to trade up but couldn’t find a partner. For the next group of guys, they liked Coleman at OT. 

This is a situation where we only solve this SF problem for them if the compensation is really low like a 5th.

Old Snyder Redskins would have sent them our two seconds lol

1 hour ago, goskins10 said:

 

I think what's clear is they didn't have the same grade on Cooper as others. I know a lot of people liked him but it's clear this regime does thier due dilligence and they didn't value him as much. It may have been a cultural fit. 

Yeah, between the major injury, possible concern he can’t play CB and would be a FS, scheme fit, play style, etc. they may have had Sainistril with similar grade. Obviously, if they LOVED him they would have taken him. 
 

7 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

I only found one game of cut ups for Jordan Magee, and I didn't think his reps were that good.  I definitely didn't see "most instinctive LBer in the class" or anything even remotely close to that.  I saw a lot of false steps and late keys in coverage, and I didn't see much of an ability to sift through and avoid trash, or get off/around blocks quick.  I want to give him the benefit of the doubt because of how athletic he is, and how good SF was at picking LBers, but I'm not sure this guy is good.

Emory Hunt had him as his #3 OLB (WLB). I think he’s a blitzer and a guy to develop in the mold of Luvu. I think we need a instinctive MLB prospect to develop.

”Strengths:
- Really good athlete, very twitched up prospect who has a lot
of good tools in his toolbox. Does an above average job in
scrapping across the formation in pursuit of the ball carrier.
- Plays with an aggressive mindset that yields itself to him
making a lot of big plays on both ends of defense. Has the
acceleration and the burst to chase the run going away.
- Does a good job of fighting through contact from blockers,
while working his way to the ball. Puts a lot of strain on
offenses because he can destroy leverage.
Areas of Improvement:
- While he works through blocks well, there’s room for him to
get better at taking them on. Has to get more consistent in
using his hands as a buffer between he and the lineman.
- Still has room to expand his game in zone coverage moving
forward.”

2 hours ago, Going Commando said:

 

I wish Standig would specify what the concerns were.  It's too vague to judge whether or not we were justified in passing over him based on them without knowing the nature of the concerns.  I heard a rumor that he was homesick at Oregon and that's why things didn't work out there, but if that's the concern, that would not have kept me from picking him.

I don’t think he’s a bad guy but I’m not sure he had the mentality we were looking for. Most of our picks were team captains and/or guys that played a ton of college football as well as RAS monsters.

The reports that we tried to trade into top 15 for an OT, and when that failed didn’t try to trade into late first, makes it likely they wanted a guy like Fuaga or Fauntanu.

Listening to Peters and Newmark I think they had a pretty clear archetype.

From Ben Standig via the Athletic:
 

BYU’s Kingsley Suamataia  garnered some late first-round chatter, but three team/league sources told The Athletic they lowered their grades after concerns emerged during the pre-draft process. Suamataia was selected by the Kansas City Chiefs at No. 63.

5 minutes ago, justice98 said:

I'm not gonna grade the draft, but there's nobody that I'm particularly enthused about seeing outside of Daniels.  I was hoping for another starter somewhere, but I don't really forsee that.  But we'll see.  

Interesting. I’m really excited about Sinnott and Sainristil. They were some of my favorite players but since we had Quan I didn’t think we were going Slot CB. And I wasn’t sure Sinnott was a fit in the offense, even though he reminded me of Chris Cooley, and had truly ridiculous combine numbers combined with some nice production.

31 minutes ago, e16bball said:

I’m not watching any longer, but if no one on the draft broadcasts made a Harold Carmichael reference when the Eagles took Johnny Wilson just now, they’re all fired.

They did 

Just now, MartinC said:

With our relative weakness at DE I can see Jon Allen sliding out a bit to play some DE in base. 

 Newton also played some snaps out wide. 
 

It’s going to be a fun “problem” figuring out how to rotate/scheme these guys but I love the pick. 

53 minutes ago, MartinC said:

Mathis will struggle to make the 53 IMO. 

Agree. He’s shown nothing positive on the field, he’s been hurt, and was drafted by previous regime. He needs to flash in camp/preseason or I think he gets cut.

Dane Brugler from the Athletic:

STRENGTHS: Looks and plays like a brawler ... refrigerator-wide shoulders with natural thickness and outstanding length ... efficient out of his stance and moves light on his feet (has a field day on GT counters and climb blocks) ... handles space well in pass protection with mirroring quickness to cut off edge speed ... stays on schedule with his strike timing ... flashes a surge in the run game when he keeps his block centered and fire lit ... seals with massive latch hands and understands body positioning...commendabletoughnessandfoundawaytoplaythroughmultiplenagginginjuriesin2023...TCUcoachesmixedandmatched on the offensive line, because theyfeltcomfortablewith Coleman at bothtackle andguard (logged snapsat every offensive line position at TCU except center) ... posted exceptional numbers at the combine.
WEAKNESSES: Often caught excessively leaning with his upper half overextended ... can be pressed into the pocket due to tall pads, leaving him susceptible to speed to power ... his recovery maneuvers are delayed and underdeveloped ... technique must improve to keep him from falling off blocks ... anchor showed cracks in the foundation on the 2023 tape (wasn’t as much of an issue in 2022) ... drew three false start flags in his first two games at left guard in 2023 ... he is admittedly a reserved person by nature and is working to maintain an alpha attitude to impose his will ... will be 24 years old as a rookie ... missed most of his first season at TCU after tearing ligaments in his left wrist (October 2020), requiring surgery; battled through knee and ankle issues throughout the 2023 season.
SUMMARY:Athree-yearstarteratTCU,ColemanbouncedbetweenlefttackleandleftguardasaseniorinoffensivecoordinatorKendalBriles’ zone-based scheme. After moving to the offensive line as a senior in high school, he cut his teeth at the juco level and put himself on the NFL radar as the Horned Frogs’ left tackle in 2022 (hisbesttapewasthe2022NationalChampionshipGameagainstGeorgia).Althoughhis2023seasondidn’tgoasplanned,hewasplayinghurt,andhis2022tapeisa better snapshot of his talent. In pass protection, Coleman has engulfing size and moves with balance in his feet, although that balance will dissipate at contact, because of his tall pad level and inconsistent recoveries. Although not a road-grader, he is well-versed as a run blocker and uses his extension to grip, torque and control. Overall, Coleman needs to improve his technical consistency, but his ease of movement, spatial awareness and length are the building blocks that offensive line coaches covet. He has the traits to stay outside at tackle while also offering position flexibility at guard.
GRADE: 2nd-3rd Round (No. 66 overall)

3 hours ago, DWinzit said:

The team labeled Brandon as a G when drafting him but in an interview Peters called him a T competing to start. No real mention of G, just that he has an incredible amount of college snaps.

His arms are long enough and athletic testing looks good to try him at tackle. I would start him at backup LT and let him develop from that side- if it looks like he won’t cut it then shift him inside to LG to upgrade from Allegretti

Jayden is chatting with Logan Paulsen and Smoot and he’s wearing sunglasses inside, again. I saw him doing it before also. 
 

I wonder if he has any light sensitivity or social anxiety or something. No judgement, just sort of interesting.

I wonder if he wears a tinted visor. That would look bad ass and be super marketable along with the VR stuff to make him seem like some sort of cyborg.

10 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I liked Daniels's press conference. He's not a polished public speaker by any means but he's real and authentic. I respect that.

I agree, and he talked about all the work he wants to do repeatedly, it doesn’t seem like an act. I think he’s a football junkie.

13 minutes ago, Idaho fan said:

Ok.  2nd round.  Pick 36 & 40.  

 

Who is everyone wanting at 36?  Im hoping it's AD Mitchell or Cooper Dejean. 

Some other options:

 

Kool-Aid

Edgerrin Cooper

Kingsley Sumatra

Ennis Rakestraw

AD Mitchell is extremely talented but I’ve read he’s a typical diva WR, not a great team player, and sort of a douche overall.

Regardless, we have a big time in with Sark at UT and some others on their staff so we should have a good idea about his football character as well as a bunch of other Texas guys.

I know Johnny Newton is listed as BPA in the early second and was seen as a first rounder. He looks like he makes a lot of plays and he’s quick and energetic, uses hands well, and plays with a lot of hustle. But is anyone concerned about his body/measurables?

His spider chart is pretty poor.  I can’t find athletic testing either. Is he an everydown DT or is he going to be in sub packages as a pass rusher?

5 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

Had a very "while you were out partying, I studied the blade" uber dork energy.

This is the kind of peak content that keeps me coming back to this forum and wading through “but he’s a winner!” **** posts.

God bless you.