LD0506 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So should we consider having a program to get guys laid to alleviate / short circuit their impulses that get subsumed into violence ? And before anyone makes a snarky reply, would that really be the worst idea you've heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Yes it's the worst idea, because you'll have to somehow convince females to have sex with whomever or hire prostitutes. Either way degrades women. And even further, inculcates male entitlement to sexual activity. No one is entitled to sexual activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 minutes to respond? What took you so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I wanted to insert a meme, but it has a banned obscenity. Male on FB: Female privilege is getting to claim a headache to avoid sex. Female response: Female oppression is having to claim physical illness to avoid sex because men won't take a simple ****ing "no" for an answer. Female oppression is men being so entitled that they think being denied sex is oppressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Waiting until your married and being faithful and devoted eliminates a lot of this entitlement mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 That's bull****. Married people are unfaithful all the time. Humans weren't meant to be monogamous. That's a fundamentalist religious thing and really meant to keep females under control and determine paternity before DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If I say no there’s zero chance my wife accepts that. I mean it’s only happened once but it was sure as hell not accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I don’t have any sources because I believe I heard this on the news, in passing, but is this the actual account of what happened??? Boy walks into school and shoots girl in the head and then the bullet deflects and goes into another student. Then boy shoots himself fatally in the head. No police officer shooting at all? Just checking because of all the right wing nutting about a good guy with a gun and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Springfield said: I don’t have any sources because I believe I heard this on the news, in passing, but is this the actual account of what happened??? Boy walks into school and shoots girl in the head and then the bullet deflects and goes into another student. Then boy shoots himself fatally in the head. No police officer shooting at all? Just checking because of all the right wing nutting about a good guy with a gun and all. That is the official account Except the officer shot the boy... in the hand. So the question now bad guy realizes he was bad and now becomes good guy with a gun? https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Great-Mills-High-Shooter-Shot-by-School-Officer-Killed-Self-Police-477984883.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Springfield said: I don’t have any sources because I believe I heard this on the news, in passing, but is this the actual account of what happened??? Boy walks into school and shoots girl in the head and then the bullet deflects and goes into another student. Then boy shoots himself fatally in the head. No police officer shooting at all? Just checking because of all the right wing nutting about a good guy with a gun and all. Pretty much the story I've been told. I also heard that the SRO's shot actually struck the gun in the Austin's hand. Not sure if he was a crack shot and trying to remove the gun from use or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 A hand with a gun with the potential of moving is a harder target than torso/body mass. It's why torso shots are taught for self defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: A hand with a gun with the potential of moving is a harder target than torso/body mass. It's why torso shots are taught for self defense. Yeah... the whole shoot the gun out of the hand is a movie thing. Unless you’re a well trained sniper with tons of time to analyze the dude in the chair outside the whitehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, tshile said: Yeah... the whole shoot the gun out of the hand is a movie thing. Unless you’re a well trained sniper with tons of time to analyze the dude in the chair outside the whitehouse Then what do you think he was aiming at? The guy is going to kill himself anyway, what, are you gonna kill him first? Why shoot at all then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Because he can change his mind quickly and shoot others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Then what do you think he was aiming at? The guy is going to kill himself anyway, what, are you gonna kill him first? Why shoot at all then? I would assume the only thought going through his mind was to eliminate the threat. Meaning kill the boy in this case. He probably just missed. I doubt very seriously he was aiming at the gun and I doubt even more he was aware the boy was about to shoot himself. He was just thinking of not getting shot - and if we are lucky - saving as many lives as he could. Just now, twa said: Because he can change his mind quickly and shoot others Xactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 43 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Then what do you think he was aiming at? The guy is going to kill himself anyway, what, are you gonna kill him first? Why shoot at all then? You're operating on a different level with hindsight information. This is the biggest problem I have whenever there's a police shooting, people seem to forget they have such a benefit. Officers are, generally speaking, trained to shoot when there's a thread that justifies deadly force, and to shoot until the threat is stopped. You don't shoot to kill. You don't shoot to injure. You shoot to stop a threat that has justified deadly force. Full stop. Shooting a handgun is hard enough when there is no pressure. Add in the pressure of the other person having a gun, having already shot someone... oh and by the way you're in a school hallway... and we have an issue with school shootings... that's a lot of pressure. You're trained to only aim for the biggest target possible - the torso. There's no shooting them in the legs to keep them from fleeing. There's no shooting them in the hand to drop the gun. There's no shooting them in the head. There's no guessing that he's just going to off himself, or guessing anything. He's a threat. He has a gun. He already shot a student (that later died). You aim for the torso and you shoot until the threat is neutralized. The fact that he hit him in the hand/gun is just how it happened. We have examples of snipers shooting guns out of hands - like the guy in front of the white house when I was young. Those are rare and require very specific circumstances (a long stand off with a clear shot and a sniper who had all day to evaluate the shot and take it when he felt the most comfortable) Also worth pointing out - you're trained to care more about what's behind the target than the target. The target was in a school hallway. You take zero chances. In fact, you prefer not to shoot at all. But he felt he had to, and based on the info I have I agree with that assessment (i'm just dumb regular dude on the internet so that doesn't really mean much.) Asking anything more is ridiculous to me, because to me asking more requires being completely unrealistic about what it takes to fire a hand gun with precision and the severity of the situation, the speed at which everything is happening and moving, and the immense pressure I would think any normal human feels when they have to pull a gun on another person and move for the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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