justice98 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said: I mean...where is Melo trimble projected to go? He would of been a nice get He's expected to go undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757SeanTaylor21 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Really? Wow. I remember a few years ago in his freshman year he could of cAme out and been probably a late first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abdcskins Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Tim Frazier seems like a worthless acquisition imo. Another nobody off the bench. What happened to possibly targeting Frank Mason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So much for buying a pick to get Josh Hart. Figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CRobi21 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) If he can play just a speck of D, he needs to make the team.. Looks like a right handed IT Edited June 24, 2017 by CRobi21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 LIstening to Brooks interview with Sheehan the other day, its a mortal lock that Porter gets resigned. I'm okay with it, I think he'll continue to develop and be a damn good #3 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: LIstening to Brooks interview with Sheehan the other day, its a mortal lock that Porter gets resigned. I'm okay with it, I think he'll continue to develop and be a damn good #3 player. paying a #3 player like a #1 seems backwards to me i am truly amazed at how Grunfeld has managed to construct this roster that Otto Porter, a nice piece, but otherwise non-descript player, has all the leverage of a multiple time all-nba player i find it hard to get excited for the coming season knowing that team who eliminated us are improving their team while we are forced to stand pat and hope for "leaps" from our core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: paying a #3 player like a #1 seems backwards to me i am truly amazed at how Grunfeld has managed to construct this roster that Otto Porter, a nice piece, but otherwise non-descript player, has all the leverage of a multiple time all-nba player i find it hard to get excited for the coming season knowing that team who eliminated us are improving their team while we are forced to stand pat and hope for "leaps" from our core. I mean its just the way the NBA salary structure is right now. Its a bit of a broken system. If we don't pay Porter someone else will. We have no choice but to resign him because the alternative is significantly worse. I do think there is still room for internal growth. Wall and Beal will both get better as well. Hopefully Mahimi can stay healthy and Satoranski will be better, and hopefully Frazier is an upgrade over Burke/Jennings. Lot of hoping but, that's kind of what being a DC sports fan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I see we're blaming Grunfel for the CBA now. Good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: I see we're blaming Grunfel for the CBA now. Good times! not for the CBA, blaming him for never seeming to think past the next year its like he's allergic to flexibility 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: not for the CBA, blaming him for never seeming to think past the next year its like he's allergic to flexibility We do have flexibility. We can walk away from Otto if we'd like. It would be foolish to do so, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, TryTheBeal! said: We do have flexibility. We can walk away from Otto if we'd like. It would be foolish to do so, tho. i dont really count that as flexibility because we still would not have cash to do anything meaningful if we let him walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 8 hours ago, StillUnknown said: not for the CBA, blaming him for never seeming to think past the next year its like he's allergic to flexibility In fairness to Grunfeld, he did do what most of us wanted in setting us up with cap space in the Durant FA year. Unfortunately the team dropped off too much and he and Leonsis just aren't good enough salesmen to bring in someone of that caliber. Then of course he messed it all up by blowing all the money on Ian freaking Mahimi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I wouldn't care if we traded Mahimi, Gortat, and Sato in a package... for anything really. Cleanse us of some contracts. We aren't going to win because of any of those players, but their combined money sure as hell hold us back. Use the money to resign Bogs, give Noel a contract (no way he approaches anything close to a max). Attempt to sign Porter under his max (he certainly isn't worth a max) Sign Zaza, and Mo Speights Wall-Beal-Porter-Morris-Noel Frazier-Bogs-Oubre-Speights-Zaza Possible.... I have no idea but I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler74 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Noel with the mavs.....then will be free agent but Dallas probably going to offer max to him. That being said we do need a big man..Gortat maybe the most uncoordinated coordinated player if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Porter is a max-contract player in TODAY'S NBA, but he is in no way the 3rd piece (of a "big" 3) on a championship contending team. Got no problem with retaining him, but if he can be moved either via S&T or in January/Feb when he's able to be traded after signing his contract this summer, then by all means do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Everyone is telling me that the sign and trade is dead. Otto wouldn't agree to it because he'd have to walk away from tens of millions of dollars. So the only option is to sign Otto and then make a deal in six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Okay so we max Porter..... he better learn to finally hit the gym. Hell I am in shape but still skinny, Otto is 9 inches taller than me and weights about 20-25 pounds more than me... that is sad. Porter needs to be playing with about 15 more pounds of muscle on him. So really this goes back to my previous post. Wall-Beal-Porter-Morris...... That can be very good but we need a productive bench, We had a bottom 3 (maybe the worst) bench in the NBA last year. In the playoffs it destroyed us. Frazier should help he can make his own a bit and make for others a lot. Again, I am for trading Gortat, Mahimi, and Sato in the same package for anything for a 2nd round pick if need be. Sign Bogs, Zaza, Speights, Dedman Mix those signings with Frazier, Oubre, and Smith and you got a good bench, and team. Hell even just start Dedman for rim protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Nobody wants Mahimi. He represents negative value. I could see someone wanting Gortat but I don't think he's that bad. I know he was poor in the playoffs but he's still a double double per game and he's great in the pick and roll with Wall. I wouldn't just give him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: Nobody wants Mahimi. He represents negative value. I could see someone wanting Gortat but I don't think he's that bad. I know he was poor in the playoffs but he's still a double double per game and he's great in the pick and roll with Wall. I wouldn't just give him away. I'm willing to include Sato and a 2nd round pick just to get rid of Mahimi. Gortat is awful at defense now but is tradeable. You don't make the Mahimi trade in some sense of getting value in the trade. You do it to give the team more financial flexbility to become a better team. Again we aren't going to win anything because we kept Mahimi, Sato, a 2nd round pick and Gortat. But we can win by trading them away and building a productive bench. By the way Gortat was an 8 pts, 8 boards per game guy after the break. Trade them away, trade Sato, and a 2nd to just get rid of Mahimi. Trading Gortat opens up more touches for Porter to get (since it looks like he will be a max player now. Just sign s guy like Dwayne Dedmon to play down low and rim protect, and build the bench. That is a far more productive route to take at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 4 hours ago, Skins199021 said: I'm willing to include Sato and a 2nd round pick just to get rid of Mahimi. Gortat is awful at defense now but is tradeable. You don't make the Mahimi trade in some sense of getting value in the trade. You do it to give the team more financial flexbility to become a better team. Again we aren't going to win anything because we kept Mahimi, Sato, a 2nd round pick and Gortat. But we can win by trading them away and building a productive bench. By the way Gortat was an 8 pts, 8 boards per game guy after the break. Trade them away, trade Sato, and a 2nd to just get rid of Mahimi. Trading Gortat opens up more touches for Porter to get (since it looks like he will be a max player now. Just sign s guy like Dwayne Dedmon to play down low and rim protect, and build the bench. That is a far more productive route to take at this point. Sato and 2nd will get us laughed at before they hang up the phone it took a 1st round pick to get rid of Nicholson's deal, gonna take alot more to move Mahinmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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