ZkinsFan Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Dr Z continues to hate the Skins, at least thats been consistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What kills me is that the skins get no credit and Gibbs gets no respect. Gibbs wouldn't have it any other way. Someone brought up the Patriots before the 2001 season. I'd love to see a preview for Dick Vermeil's Rams before the '99 season, too, after finishing 4-12 the previous year. Last season, alone, most predictions for the Steelers and the Chargers were pretty dismal. I want to see Dr. Zzzzz and Len Pastarelli eat lots and lots of crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 People tend to forget that our defense dealt with a massive amount of injuries last year. Our best defensive player is back and we are healthy (so far anyway) across the board. Name a better defensive staff in the league.I can understand pundits not picking us for the playoffs, but 4-12 with Joe Gibbs( the 3rd worst team in the NFC) is a farce. The same thing happened to our defense, yet people are talking crap about our defense anyway. I know how it feels. I've never said anything bad about your coaching staff. You have one of the best. As for defensive staff, the Eagles have a great defensive mind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 :laugh: I'm curious what the Cowpies did this off-season to launch them from 6-10 to 10-6:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 :laugh:I'm curious what the Cowpies did this off-season to launch them from 6-10 to 10-6:rolleyes: Let's see...we added two good defensive backs in Henry and Glenn. We signed a vet quarterback that is better than any one of your quarterbacks. (At the moment, anyway.) We signed a solid DT and had a great draft and for once have decent depth throughout the whole team. We added a solid Pro Bowl calibur guard. We have everyone coming back healthy. This team is better than the team that actually went 10-6 two years ago. Roy Williams is going back to his true position. And if you actually consider preseason games meaningful, the Cowboys have the #1 ranked scoring defense this preseason and are ranked 5th in total defense. (I don't consider preseason to be any indication to how the regular season will play out.) If you can't see how the Cowboys have improved, than you just can't see past your burgandy and gold glasses. I can see that your team has improved, but I guess your just a little peeved at our ownership of your team at the current moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2thegibb Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 It doesn't matter what your record could have been had your team been better. It doens't matter what you did during a glorified scrimmage, either. The only thing that matters is what you team does between the Week 1 and Week 17.Same goes for every team. Your missing the point COWGIRL. what i'm getting at is how close they are to getting over the hump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Your missing the point COWGIRL. what i'm getting at is how close they are to getting over the hump How do you know this? It's all speculation at this point, even for you. Your team was supposed to be over the hump four years ago, at least you guys. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 we will have to see what happens during the season, but my take is that Drew Bledsoe is on the down elevator in re his career while Ramsey may finally be on the way up. Ramsey started the last half of last season and posted decent numbers and for the first time in his 4 year career received NFL caliber coaching. He is in essence starting his second real season in the NFL. That is what people miss. Steve Spurrier basically wasted his first two years in the NFL yanking him in and out of the lineup while focusing more on the 'talents' of Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews, two players that didn't have what it takes to succeed at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2thegibb Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 How do you know this? It's all speculation at this point, even for you.Your team was supposed to be over the hump four years ago, at least you guys. :doh: that's not true. I never thought Spurrier had any business being in the NFL. What Gibbs is doing is adding structure and disipline to this team. Everyone around the NFL, including fans like to blame Synder for all this mess and yes it is partly his fault but only because he wants to win. He bought the team but didn't understand how to run a football team. All he wanted to do was win. Ya you can call it speculation but last year we lost a lot of games because of stupid FIXABLE things which Gibbs will fix and the cowboys will go back to the cellar were they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2thegibb Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 we will have to see what happens during the season, but my take is that Drew Bledsoe is on the down elevator in re his career while Ramsey may finally be on the way up. Ramsey started the last half of last season and posted decent numbers and for the first time in his 4 year career received NFL caliber coaching. He is in essence starting his second real season in the NFL. That is what people miss. Steve Spurrier basically wasted his first two years in the NFL yanking him in and out of the lineup while focusing more on the 'talents' of Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews, two players that didn't have what it takes to succeed at this level. EXACTLY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEJ2200 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Sorry if this was posted, couldn't find it.From the SI NFL preview: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/preview/2005/scout.report/ NFC East Projected 1 Eagles 10-6 2 Cowboys* 10-6 3 Giants 5-11 4 Redskins 4-12 How Dr. Z Ranks 'em 1 Indianapolis Colts 17 Detroit Lions 2 Carolina Panthers 18 Denver Broncos 3 New England Patriots 19 Buffalo Bills 4 Pittsburgh Steelers 20 Cincinnati Bengals 5 Philadelphia Eagles 21 New Orleans Saints 6 Atlanta Falcons 22 Arizona Cardinals 7 Baltimore Ravens 23 Houston Texans 8 New York Jets 24 Tampa Bay Bucs 9 Dallas Cowboys 25 Oakland Raiders 10 Kansas City Chiefs 26 Miami Dolphins 11 Jacksonville Jaguars 27 New York Giants 12 San Diego Chargers 28 Cleveland Browns 13 Minnesota Vikings 29 Washington Redskins 14 St. Louis Rams 30 Tennessee Titans 15 Seattle Seahawks 31 San Francisco 49ers 16 Green Bay Packers 32 Chicago Bears Casey Jones - watch your speed! I'm sure Jerry is rolling over right now wishing he could have had some of Dr Z's special out of mind stash. PULEEZ Try again Dr. - more to the tune of 9-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Miami and Cleveland won't end up with more victories than the Redskins in 2005 in fact they probably won't end up with as many combined :laugh: well, they might but you get my drift................ Miami (5 wins?), Cleveland (4-5 wins).......I think the Redskins can get to 10-6 in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb mul-key Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 we are going to suprise a lot of folks who need to eat crow, we do have the tough, tough sched and injuries could hurt us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 4 Redskins 4-12 RB: Our feature back is getting to run the way he wants Betts has shown he can do 100+ by himself, not 3rd down only. QB: Ramsey is going from start to finish not 3-4 from game 9...(hint almost the record for all 16 this year and there were GOOOD teams in there...) Brunell is playing better than he did last year. OL: They are giving more time than chess players: I could do well in there. Defense: nuff said. WR: They are doing better than our star WR last year and are faster .. etc.. AND: We are going to do worse... o.k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEJ2200 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Let's see...we added two good defensive backs in Henry and Glenn.We signed a vet quarterback that is better than any one of your quarterbacks. (At the moment, anyway.) We signed a solid DT and had a great draft and for once have decent depth throughout the whole team. We added a solid Pro Bowl calibur guard. We have everyone coming back healthy. This team is better than the team that actually went 10-6 two years ago. Roy Williams is going back to his true position. And if you actually consider preseason games meaningful, the Cowboys have the #1 ranked scoring defense this preseason and are ranked 5th in total defense. (I don't consider preseason to be any indication to how the regular season will play out.) If you can't see how the Cowboys have improved, than you just can't see past your burgandy and gold glasses. I can see that your team has improved, but I guess your just a little peeved at our ownership of your team at the current moment. Well now...Let's not get too excited. Yeah - that guard you 'stole away' from the Packers - You sure he'll make it through the season?! Speaking of your O-Line, you'll need it because your aging and immobile QB will be relying on them to protect his assets. By the way, how IS Larry Allen doing???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The media's predictions on this year reminds me of how bad they missed on Virginia Tech last year. Tech was picked at best 4th in the ACC. Frank Beamer was a washed up coach. It was a very bad offseason with the Marcus Vick incidents and he was gone for the year. The QB had shown flashes but was mediocre at best coming into 2004. Lack of depth, and a poor system that other teams had figured out. Tech put in the locker room the predictions from the preseason as motiviation. As the year went on, the players crossed the names of teams they beat and that they had jumped in the standings. 3 months later the college football media world was eating all sorts of crow as VT found itself in the Sugar Bowl. Same thing will happen this year with our Redskins. Just replace Sugar with Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDannyBoy Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Gibbs didn't get any respect the first time around. He just keep winning as the underdog. Esp. in the playoffs! Only four wins is laughable. I am looking for good things this season. I think we have decent depth and hopefully we win a few more games. Once in the playoffs all bets are off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I still have yet to see it explained how the Cowboys are in any better of a position than we are, much less six games better. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Thought it was cocaines a helluva drug. I'm happy with the prediction. This is perfect clipboard material and it keeps the SI curse away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Funny, Vegas has the line set at 7.5 wins for the year. 4 wins is just a insult to Gibbs and the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaDRoc Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well fellahs, looks like the Browns and Dolphins are gonna be better than us. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 4-12 isn't that far to fall...i mean we were 5-11 and 6-10 the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Sweep over Dallas and Philly. Hey if we're only going to win 4 we might as well make them count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 You've got to be kidding me!!! 4-12 huh Just ask him how much money he wants to put on that!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 They're Not! Sure they've improved their D but their offence is STILL nothing to write home about!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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