lumpy35 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Ramsey will start by the end of the season, not because of poor play but because fo injury. He will have unlearned all of Spurrier's stuff, he will know what it is like to have protection, he will check down quicker, and he has the mad arm to gun it deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 With that contract Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Ramsey stays unless we decide to trade him. He can't be upset at not starting given his performance to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by Shakermaker I think he'll see that Brunell really only has a year, maybe 1.5 seasons MAX he can start. Then Ramsey will be into the system and comfortable. That plus a nice new contract will keep him in Washington for awhile. I dunno, Brunell is 34, same age as Thiesman when he was going to his second Super Bowl. He played two more seasons after that until he was 36 and was out only due to injury. Hell Sammy Baugh played till he was 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 If PR has a mediocre game, the probability he will be on our roster goes up because he'd have no trade value. If he has a great game but MB also has a great game, PR's trade value would go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 He will get his chances this year and anything else will be based on his performance. That's the way Joe works. Man - I love football season! :jump: :party: :party: :jump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X-Factor Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Most likely he will be around, but I just have a bad feeling about his situation. I would not be too surprised if he was put on the trade block. I hope this is not true, because he still has a lot of promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txkid Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Brunell will start the season, but given his recent injury history; and the "poorus line" from the bang cartoon in front of him. He will be in IR by midseason. Ramsey will then get his shot, and will do better with Portis and Kozlowski around this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzie Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 i think he needs to get back how he did on the opening night against the jets he did good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSurina Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Ramsey will need a year to adjust, then watch out. He's no Heath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I wouldnt be surprised to see him traded next year depending on his attitude after riding the bench this season. he may self destruct and want out, who knows. i doubt that will happen, but being a Redskin isnt for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Here we go again.. Ramsey isnt going anywhere. Sure he looks like warmed over dogpoop but he's learning a new system, his 2nd in 3 years. Mark will be gone within 3 years time max and Pat should probably start way before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Here's an idea... Trade Ramsey for Eli. Trade Eli for McNabb. Trade McNabb for Carter. Trade Carter for Henson. Cut Henson, draft a new guy. Meanwhile, in Dallas, Carter can say, "I'm bAAaack!" Not much more silly than the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthro Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 It's way too early to even say one way or the other. If Ramsey improves, he'll be a Skin. If he doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I am curious if San Diego did at one point offer us the #1 for Ramsey as it was reported. I agree his value has declined I still think he will be a good qb but how good is what is in question now. I remember last year someone was trying to tell me Ramsey was better then Leftwhich, sorry to say but they aren't close. The best thing for his career right now is to wait, learn, and then take advantage when he has the chance. Brunell won't play the entire year, it is very rare so he will have a chance to show what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma I remember last year someone was trying to tell me Ramsey was better then Leftwhich, sorry to say but they aren't close. Jbooma, if Ramsey played in the same simplistic offense that Leftwich plays in Jax then he'd be starting too. Both are good QB's but Ramsey makes better reads than Leftwich does. At least thats what I saw of them both in college as well as so far in the pro's. Dont go homer on Byron just cos he's a D.C. boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 didnt gibbs sa that ramsey was teh future of the redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Oldskool Jbooma, if Ramsey played in the same simplistic offense that Leftwich plays in Jax then he'd be starting too. Both are good QB's but Ramsey makes better reads than Leftwich does. At least thats what I saw of them both in college as well as so far in the pro's. Dont go homer on Byron just cos he's a D.C. boy. sure keep believing Leftwhich can make all the throws look easy, you will be hearing great things from him this year since he was WR's to throw too. He also beat out Brunell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoRevs Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Oldskool Jbooma, if Ramsey played in the same simplistic offense that Leftwich plays in Jax then he'd be starting too. Both are good QB's but Ramsey makes better reads than Leftwich does. At least thats what I saw of them both in college as well as so far in the pro's. Dont go homer on Byron just cos he's a D.C. boy. I think your wrong. I dont think your reads can be that good when your on your ass 30 times a year. Some was the O-Lines fault, yes, but he does hang on to the ball, 90% people agree with that I would say. If your holding onto the ball to long, then your not making the right reads. Unless you can say holding onto the ball is another one of Spurriers things he did to ruin Patrick, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma sure keep believing Leftwhich can make all the throws look easy, you will be hearing great things from him this year since he was WR's to throw too. He also beat out Brunell He didnt beat out Brunell. Brunell got hurt, the Jags werent going to the playoffs anyway so they decided to keep the rook in when Brunell was OK again. It was common knowledge that the Jags were going to get rid of Brunell at the end of the season anyway so why start him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by lolhahaha He didnt beat out Brunell. Brunell got hurt, the Jags werent going to the playoffs anyway so they decided to keep the rook in when Brunell was OK again. It was common knowledge that the Jags were going to get rid of Brunell at the end of the season anyway so why start him? They got rid of him because of his salary and leftwhich, if they didn't have Byron on that team Mark would be in Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I think Ramsey is going to open up a can of whoop A$$ on the Rams and really make it a QB controversy. Ramsey is a slow starter but I'm convinced that once he learns the new system and gets Spurrier's system out of his head, he will take the job from Brunnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway66 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 If TH keeps outplaying PR at what point do we call a spade a spade?? Remember 3rd string castoff Trent Green who made a habit of impressive 4th Qtr mop up jobs while he was behind heath and Gus and Hostetler. Green was 3rd string and all along he was better than the whole bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by Highway66 If TH keeps outplaying PR at what point do we call a spade a spade?? Remember 3rd string castoff Trent Green who made a habit of impressive 4th Qtr mop up jobs while he was behind heath and Gus and Hostetler. Green was 3rd string and all along he was better than the whole bunch don't sleep on Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newera Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 How's this: Perhaps this is Ramsey's showcase. For two reasons: He's in a competition. He needs to play well because his play has been medicore to bad at best. Hasselbeck has been more consistent. If Patrick does play well his trade value goes up and we could probably get more for him then we could for Tim. I think the Redskins brass knows what they have in Tim. And, are trying to figure out what they have in Ramsey. Ramsey certainly has more upside. But that means nothing without the intangibles to play the position at the NFL level. Tomorrow is Ramsey's time to shine. Tim so reminds me of Trent Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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