J33Edwards Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I apologize if this has been posted but I couldn't find it in a search. http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2333142 It goes from 1989 - 2002 and says who was picked and who think should have been picked. 2001 - Washington Redskins Taken: Rod Gardner, WR Clemson Should Have: WR Steve Smith (3rd), Utah Gardner has shown flashes of greatness, but Smith is the better receiver who blossomed into a key playmaker for the Super Bowl bound Panthers. -------------------------------------------------- 2000 - Washington Redskins Taken: LaVar Arrington, LB Penn State Should Have: QB Tom Brady (6th), Michigan The Redskins needed some consistency at quarterback. It might take a year or two, but Brady would turn out to be a much better option than Tony Banks and could flourish under Steve Spurrier. Washington Redskins Taken: Chris Samuels, OT Alabama Should Have: OT Chris Samuels (1st), Alabama There are a ton of great pass rushers on the board, but Samuels has worked out well for Washington so Samuels isn't a bad pick up. It this a reach at the number three? Possibly with Shaun Alexander still on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Is this to suggest that the skins should have taken Brady with the number 2 overall pick? If so thats ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 yeah, that was interesting but....man. Some of that was dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFischer37 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Spurrier would have destoyed Brady..also he wasnt flashy enough for Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 They have the Colts taking Randy Moss instead of Manning :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 ...and then they go on to say we should have taken Ricky Williams instead of Champ full well knowing we have Stephen Davis in full swing at that point. ...and THEN they go on to say that the Ravens should have picked Shaun Alexander over Jamal Lewis. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X-Factor Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 :doh: Just :doh: FoxSports has got to have some of the worst writers ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 God...the more I read this the worse it gets! Instead of taking Dan Morgan the Panthers should have taken Michael Bennet???? UGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 What a ridiculous premise. Using hindsight in this manner is absurd. It ignores the reality of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by scottb What a rediculous premise. Using hindsight in this manner is absurd. It ignores the reality of the moment. That's not even my problem...some of the stuff they're doing WITH hindsight being 20/20 is just absurd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 They're just trying to kill time during the offseason. It's an interesting idea, but not very well thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by Henry They're just trying to kill time during the offseason. It's an interesting idea, but not very well thought out. Good point. If they had gone by “should have taken ___ in round 4 versus ___ in round 4”, it would have been a much better article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaSkinsNut Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I'm still not convinced that Tom Brady is that great of a QB. Yes he's been on 2 teams that won superbowls, but he is by far not the most gifted QB. I think its more a matter of coaching and talent around him than Tom Brady leading a team like he was Elway or Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Wow. Brady would be horrible for anyone but the Pats right now. That system made him and it could break him just as fast. He is perfect for that system though, he knows exactly what to do, which makes him great. But any other system he's awful. I'd still take Lavar over him anyday. Brady would have been TERRIBLE under Spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Chad Johnson is better than Steve Smith anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 i wuld not trade lavar for brady right now. i wouldnt even think about it. are they crazy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romberjo Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 What about this one: 32. Washington RedskinsPatrick Ramsey, QB Tulane Should have taken: RB T.J. Duckett (1st), Michigan State Atlanta Falcons Duckett isn't Stephen Davis, but he'd be a good backup and a great insurance policy when free agency when Davis went off to Carolina. Now that's insightful analysis. I just wish we'd drafted Duckett instead of Ramsey, but I guess we have to acknowledge the draft is a crapshoot and we didn't know then what we know now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Tom Brady would have been the 2K pick which means he would have been in year 2 under Shot. So the question would have been when George failed, would he have gone to Brady or gone outside the organization anyway? I think the offense that Shot ran (except for the OC problem, which is a biggie) may have worked as well as the Patriots one did for Brady. So we may never have had the SOS fiasco. Of course, I would not trade Lavar for him now since both Brunell and Ramsey are better fits for the offense Joe Gibbs will probably want to run (though if he had Brady, I'm sure he adjust) and Lavar is not the one who we'd be trading if we could go back to that draft. 'What-if' historical analysis cannot generate analysis with solid 'truth' values, this would be just a fun starting point. For example, Shot uses Brady, Brady performs (not as well as with the Pats but good enough) and we go, say 10-6 or 9-7 (remember, we'd still have both Brady and Lavar). Shot gets another shot and is able to go 11-5. We're a playoff team with SB desires. What Joe Gibbs doing this year? What about SOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miragv Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Dumb idiots, Brady sucked then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Here's a much better analysis: 2000 Taken: Lavar Samuels Lloyd Harrison Should Have Taken: Traded down the #2 for an extra 2nd rounder and taken Brian Urlacher and Chad Clifton Used the #3 for Corey Simon Lavaraneous Coles w/ 3rd rounder 2001 Taken: Rod Gardner Should have: Traded down for an extra 2rd rounder and drafted Chad Johnson and Shaun Rogers 2002 Taken: Ladell Betts Should have: Packaged the 3rd rounder to move up a few spots in the 2nd and take Clinton Portis, or not trade down for the extra pick and taken Weaver 2003 Taken: Taylor Jacobs Should Have taken: Anquan Boldin, or Mike Doss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by miragv Dumb idiots, Brady sucked then Maybe you should speak for youself Brady has never sucked in this league. The first year he started the won the superbowl :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Saw this one: 3. Detroit Lions Drafted :Joey Harrington, QB Oregon Should have Drafted : RB Clinton Portis (2nd), Miami Joey Harrington isn't working out for the Lions proving to be a horrible decision maker. To be fair, he has the worst running game in the league not helping him out. Portis quickly turned into one of the NFL's elite home run hitters. and this: 19. Denver Broncos Drafted: Ashley Lelie, WR Hawaii Should have drafted: CB Quentin Jammer (1st), Texas Lelie might eventually be a star after two mediocre seasons. If the Broncos had gone with a cornerback here, they might not have had to trade away a franchise back like Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschlesi Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Give me a break. its like all the people now that say how they knew Leaf or Shuler were busts. Any team or expert had those guys at the top of the draft and would have grabbed em in a kentucky minute. Think about it with as much Coke as LT did when he played he could have been a bust or busted. Instead he was the baddest outside LB ever. Everyone now talks about what great draft pick he was. He was in the top of the draft and the top of college LB. He should of been good. He became great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section 130 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 :bong: = Fox sports writers on lunch break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmac1577 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 who wrote this article max kellerman :laugh: who ever wrote it is a complete jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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