Cooked Crack Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Quote A New Jersey man is facing several charges after authorities say he intentionally crashed his vehicle into a police station --- all while blasting "Welcome To The Jungle" by Guns N' Roses. The incident happened on Wednesday, Sept. 20. Surveillance video from the Independence Township Police Department shows the vehicle slamming into the building. The song was not captured in the video, but in a statement, police said the man's stereo was "blaring" the song. Quote The man, identified as John Hargreaves, then gets out of the car with his hands up before he was arrested by officers. He now faces several serious charges, including terrorism, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. Police say earlier that day, Hargreaves intentionally crashed his SUV into the garage door of a home in Liberty Township. https://abc7.com/new-jersey-car-crashes-into-police-station-guns-n-roses-song-welcome-to-the-jungle/13849472/ Terrorism charge seems excessive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Terrorism charge seems excessive NJ defines terror as "menace or fear of death or serious bodily injury". One of the anti terror law subsection is "to cause by an act of terror the impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public or private buildings, common carriers, public utilities or other public services". Seems to me that it falls squarely within the definition of the law. Aside from the legal definition, anyone intentionally ramming a car into a building deserves to have the book thrown at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, bearrock said: NJ defines terror as "menace or fear of death or serious bodily injury". One of the anti terror law subsection is "to cause by an act of terror the impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public or private buildings, common carriers, public utilities or other public services". Seems to me that it falls squarely within the definition of the law. Let's be for real. If he crashed into a Walmart there wouldn't be a charge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Boy's gonna learn about that Nightrain in the slammer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Let's be for real. If he crashed into a Walmart there wouldn't be a charge. If he intentionally drove his car into Walmart with welcome to the jungle blaring? Pretty sure there would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Let's be for real. If he crashed into a Walmart there wouldn't be a charge. I assume you mean there wouldn't be a terror charge. Because there would absolutely be a laundry list of very serious charges for intentionally ramming a car into a building full of people like Walmart. See https://www.walb.com/2023/03/17/police-deadly-thomasville-walmart-crash-was-intentional/ And attempted first degree murder in NJ is up to life in prison, so it's not like the perp here would have gotten off easy under that route. People get charged with terror threats for threatening to shoot up or crashing a plane into a Walmart. If someone intentionally rams a car into a Walmart, they should (and would) have the book thrown at them too. While it may not be weapon of mass destruction terror, it's terror nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Let's be for real. If he crashed into a Walmart there wouldn't be a charge. Walmart has money; there'd probably be charges. Now if he crashed into protestors, then he'd get an award. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Shocked this wasn’t Florida or Texas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Sisko said: Shocked this wasn’t Florida or Texas. Or Georgia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Video of the incident: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 This was the most gentle arrest I’ve seen. I guess GNR kinda telegraphs that you are fully white. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now