DM72 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 You see why these guys aren't as great as they're made out to be. In back to back games these guys forget that they have teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Howard will get as much blame as Harden if they get bounced. Fair or not, it goes with the territory of being arguably the best at his position.How do you figure? Howard has been outstanding. He deserves no blame. And he didn't deserve any last year either. He had no one around him.If Houston loses this series, it's on Harden. He's been AWFUL. And blame McHale as well, for not coming up with any semblance of defense on Aldridge. Edited April 25, 2014 by Bubble Screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Griffin has really improved and he's getting to that point that Chuck and Shaq always talk about where he can't be guarded by just one man. The league seems to be full of really good power forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Howard is not the problem. He wasn't the problem on the Lakers (which is painfully evident now) and he's certainly not the problem in Houston's two playoff losses. James Harden is MIA on both sides of the floor. This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How do you figure? Howard has been outstanding. He deserves no blame. And he didn't deserve any last year either. He had no one around him. If Houston loses this series, it's on Harden. He's been AWFUL. And blame McHale as well, for not coming up with any semblance of defense on Aldridge. Aldridge has been hitting shots that have no business even being attempted in today's nba game. No coach is going to send a double team to prevent a turn around 18 foot contested jumpshot attempt. You WANT guys taking those shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Lemme just put this out there... Jeff teague is a top 3 PG right now. And, This years playoffs are wide open. The title is up for grabs. Why not, Wiz? Come on, man. Not even close. George Hill would make YOU look good out there.Aldridge has been hitting shots that have no business even being attempted in today's nba game. No coach is going to send a double team to prevent a turn around 18 foot contested jumpshot attempt. You WANT guys taking those shots.I was mainly referring to Game 1, when he had a 6'8" guy guarding him. And often no double even came. That's not good coaching. Even LA commented after the game that he was surprised they didn't double him more. Edited April 25, 2014 by Bubble Screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Got tell it like it is. I like Durant (he's a Redskins and Pacquiao fan), but he's gotta take some heat for this loss. If Westbrook had missed this many 3's, he would get crucified for it. And the second game in a row that OKC lost in OT. Plain and simple, Brooks is being outcoached. Brooks is definitely being outcoached. OKC got thoroughly outplayed in both games IMO. They shouldn't have been in either game towards the end but Durant and Westbrook have such deadly shot making capability that a 4 or 6 point lead very late in a game is not safe. Also Memphis is just not that clean in execution. They make a ton of mistakes and it's kept OKC around when they should have been put away comfortably in regulation both games. I have less of an issue with Durant missing shots as I do with the quality of shots he was taking. This whole series, both he and Westbrook have been chucking and settling for lousy shots. It's like they know they've got no chance to run a decent set play that results in a quality look so they fire away. The biggest problem for OKC IMO is how they play such long stretches of 1 or 2 on 5 basketball. Memphis has a great defense but you can beat a great defense with a balanced offensive attack. That's something OKC does not look capable of. Brooks is a lousy coach. Randy Wittman looks better than him. And now I think Sam Presti is overrated as a teambuilder. He's built a three man team. Nobody else looks impressive at all. And I think a big part of that is ownership. They're flat out cheapskates and it is undermining OKC's ability to win a championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 That is a very accurate post Steve. Thanks man. As I was reading it I got...BOOM...that's what I am thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Griffin has really improved and he's getting to that point that Chuck and Shaq always talk about where he can't be guarded by just one man. The league seems to be full of really good power forwards. The NBA has always had lots of great PFs. Deepest position historically. This era is really keeping up the tradition. I think Griffin became the best PF in the league this year. Clippers have the best PG and PF. Rockets have the best SG and C--by default. There are actually other elite PGs and PFs in the league today. I think it's going to be a back and forth rivalry for best PF between Griffin and Davis and Love and Aldridge for best PF status similar to the way it was with Dirk, Duncan, Amar'e and KG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 OKC have a great team and solid from top to bottom. Ibaka- defensive stopper and solid offensive game KD- Stone cold beast Perkins- Defensive stopper Sefolosha- Defensive stopper Russell Westbrook- The mini Black Mamba Collison- every team in the league can use a hard worker like him Caron Butler - Solid player Reggie Jackson- can start on some teams Lamb- played good at times but don't get many minutes. can use another big man. Thats a good playoff rotation, coaching is killing them I used to like Brooks but this 1 on 1 play enough is enough. Everyone stands around and watch Westbrook and Durant, even Westbrook and Durant stand still and watch the other go one on one and take tough shot after tough shot. Theres barely any floor movement at all its crazy. Westbrook usuaully sholders the blame he doesn't run the offense or has this low BBIQ but really theres no offensive, OKC has to have the smallest playbook in the league from what I see. At the end of the day its blame Westbrook that Durant doesn't get enough shots they both get way to many shots I don't understand you want Durant to shoot the ball 35 times a game? This team needs a coach and its instant championship imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka are all great. But nobody else on OKC would even be a rotation player for the Wizards. That team is not solidly built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka are all great. But nobody else on OKC would even be a rotation player for the Wizards. That team is not solidly built. Jackson is better than the whole Wizards Bench Butler will have a spot over Webster Perkins offensive is very limited but defensive hes much better than Booker on anyone else Thunder doesn't run a offensive its one on one for 75% of the game, My 2 favorite Thunder plays is Westbrook runs up and shoot the quick three LOL, and Westbrook walks up the court and pass to Durant who is posting up at the 3 point line for his iso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Perkins is useless. When OKC finally cuts him, he may be out of the NBA. Sefolosha is apparently good at defense because everyone says he is good at defense. But if you are going to be that useless on offense, you need to be Tony Allen good at defense. And he is not. There is a reason that OKC's starting five puts up truly abysmal numbers despite having Durant and Westbrook. It's because they play 3 on 5 on offense and all Ibaka can do is hit a 15 footer from the baseline. When Steve Kerr calls OKC games, I often find myself wondering if Steve Kerr today would be more useful to them on offense than Sefolosha. I actually like their bench guys, but it's not a terribly deep team. But I don't think that would be a problem necessarily if they ran an offense other than just running plays. You can stop plays, and Memphis seems designed by God Himself to stop OKC's plays. Anyway, I still think OKC wins this series because they have been abysmal and are still forcing these games to OT. I just find it hard to believe that you can lose a series when you have the two best players in the series on your side unless the other team is a perfectly calibrated machine - and Memphis is not that at all. But unless he wins a title, I would fire Brooks and get someone in there who is known for offense. Jackson is better than the whole Wizards Bench Butler will have a spot over Webster Perkins offensive is very limited but defensive hes much better than Booker on anyone else Thunder doesn't run a offensive its one on one for 75% of the game, My 2 favorite Thunder plays is Westbrook runs up and shoot the quick three LOL, and Westbrook walks up the court and pass to Durant who is posting up at the 3 point line for his iso. Have you watched Kendrick Perkins play basketball in the last three years? He can still kind of defend one on one in the post if the guy in the post doesn't face him - which means he really doesn't even defend the post well anymore except against Dwight Howard. I honestly don't think he should be in the league any longer. I'm not going to get into a Wizards' bench versus Thunder bench argument, because I don't see what value it brings. OKC is a championship contender. They shouldn't be involved in a player to player argument with the East's five-seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Brooks is part of the NBAs rich tradition of coaches succeeding almost entirely because of a superstar on their roster. See mike Brown for another example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Perkins is doing a great job on Z BO, I wouldnt have him starting but hes a great guy you want on the bench, he is also an enforcer you need those on your team. Offensively he is terrible and for that contract he has theres no way I would want him but hes still solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Griffin has been dominant. Bogut. Lemme just put this out there... Jeff teague is a top 3 PG right now. And, I like Teague, but c'mon now son. Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Steph Curry, Rajon Rondo, Damien Lillard, John Wall, Mike Conley.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Jeff Teague a top 3 PG? In a league with CP3, Curry, Wall, Westbrook, Parker, Lillard, Conley Dragic, Bledsoe, D-Will, Irving, and Lowry? And these are only those who I could think of at the top of my head. Edited April 25, 2014 by Ozymandias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The best thing that ever happened to Blake was David Stern killing that Lakers trade and basically gift-wrapping Chris Paul to the Clippers. The second best thing that ever happened to Blake was Chris Paul missing a bunch of games this year and being forced to use all these other gifts that I'm not sure he even knew he had. Blake is just ridiculously good right now. A lot of people are still hung up on the "He's just a dunker" thing, because no one really likes Blake. But he has basically turned into Karl Malone with a better handle. Anyone making any judgments from this Pacers-Hawks series is an idiot. Right now, we are watching something like the 23rd and 24th best teams in the league playing a frist round series for some unknown reason. I think the league should send both teams home and let the Suns and Timberwolves have their spots. The Pacers are probably going to win in an ugly 7th game, because...come on.....But both these teams are awful. I'm not sure if a team has ever fallen as far as fast as the Hawks in the history of professional sports? The 1996 Redskins had a ridiculous season, but that team stunk the year before. This is not a normal collapse where a shaky team gets hot and then remembers that it is not actually good. This is a team that nearly went to the Finals last year, came in with high expectations, exceeded those expectations for months, and then became one of the worst teams in the league because it traded its 8th best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 How do you figure? Howard has been outstanding. He deserves no blame. And he didn't deserve any last year either. He had no one around him. If Houston loses this series, it's on Harden. He's been AWFUL. And blame McHale as well, for not coming up with any semblance of defense on Aldridge. How do I figure? He's a star player, that's why. Is it fair? Not always. But it's the narrative that's surely to follow if the Rockets come up short. It's the same reason why there will be questions about KD's makeup if OKC loses in the first round. Yes, guys like Brooks/McHale will shoulder a lot of the blame...but so will the players. Jeff Teague a top 3 PG? In a league with CP3, Curry, Wall, Westbrook, Parker, Lillard, Conley Dragic, Bledsoe, D-Will, Irving,is and Lowry? And these are only those who I could think of at the top of my head. Man, who said this? LMAOOOOO! That statement is only applicable if you snacked on some paint chips before hitting the post button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Jeff Teague is playing at a very high level right now. But it's not something you really expect him to sustain. And I think Indy is also making him look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm not sure if a team has ever fallen as far as fast as the Hawks in the history of professional sports? The 1996 Redskins had a ridiculous season, but that team stunk the year before. This is not a normal collapse where a shaky team gets hot and then remembers that it is not actually good. This is a team that nearly went to the Finals last year, came in with high expectations, exceeded those expectations for months, and then became one of the worst teams in the league because it traded its 8th best player. The demise of the Pacers is like the stock market crash of 1929. Went from looking like legit contenders to scrubs in a matter of weeks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm not sure if a team has ever fallen as far as fast as the Hawks in the history of professional sports? The 1996 Redskins had a ridiculous season, but that team stunk the year before. This is not a normal collapse where a shaky team gets hot and then remembers that it is not actually good. This is a team that nearly went to the Finals last year, came in with high expectations, exceeded those expectations for months, and then became one of the worst teams in the league because it traded its 8th best player. Obviously you meant Pacers, not Hawks. Otherwise I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I said it then and I'll say it again. As soon as Paul said he would go to LeBron for advice, I knew this team didn't have the mental makeup of a champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I said it then and I'll say it again. As soon as Paul said he would go to LeBron for advice, I knew this team didn't have the mental makeup of a champion. Ummm because Lebron's not a champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ummm because Lebron's not a champion? It showed a sign of weakness on Paul's part. He pretty much admitted to the world that he's not on LeBron's level. I bet you he lost some respect in that locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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