Sekhmet187 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 why am I not surprised there are fans here that seem to think they can come up with a more "logical", "reasonable", "likely" timetable on RGIII's return than his doctor and the guy who did the surgery? I mean I've come to expect everyone to assume they know the personnel better than the coaching staff, or the play calling better than the coordinators. thats a given. But now recovery time with an injury better than a world renown specialist who performed the surgery himself? Man, thats a PhD in armchair quarterbacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If he comes back and is fully healthy week 1, I will no longer believe he is human. He will be in AP's status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 RGIII is the same guy who turned himself into the best deep-ball QB prospect in a generation by throwing passes to his dad in a wheelchair after his LAST ACL injury. What did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 It might seem like a 9-12 injury to us, but from what I heard, is that the patella fusion from his first ACL was torn ...Not a new tear persay, but where they fused the patella grant on his first ACL is what tore.. Quite possible the recovery time is different than if it was a "normal/original/new" tear. Also, he should look into stem cell treatment like AP did as well. That is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akorn22 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 12 mo. is my predictions as well. But, with our current medical staff he will probably play in the Pro bowl and be cleared to go skiing the next day. Hahahahaha. my sides hurt right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Really? You cannot be serious? Alfred is a beast and won the last games of the year for us. I love Alfred and I think he's awesome but I dont think he's a 1,600 yd back without RG3 and the read option. His success is more a result of Shanahan's zone blocking scheme...not because of RG3. All those successful Denver backs didn't have an RG3 and the read option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3553 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 aside from AP, what other skill position players have come back from a surgery like this and been as good or better than before? i'm not being pessimistic. just an honest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedup2 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 aside from AP, what other skill position players have come back from a surgery like this and been as good or better than before? i'm not being pessimistic. just an honest question. Willis Mcgahee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Wes Welker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 aside from AP, what other skill position players have come back from a surgery like this and been as good or better than before? i'm not being pessimistic. just an honest question. Terry Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Any players that tore the same ACL twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3553 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 anybody else think he should just get robot legs? it's a risky procedure, but i think it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braindx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 why am I not surprised there are fans here that seem to think they can come up with a more "logical", "reasonable", "likely" timetable on RGIII's return than his doctor and the guy who did the surgery? I mean I've come to expect everyone to assume they know the personnel better than the coaching staff, or the play calling better than the coordinators. thats a given. But now recovery time with an injury better than a world renown specialist who performed the surgery himself? Man, thats a PhD in armchair quarterbacking. Agreed. Basically, the doc saw what the damage was and did the repair and estimated based on the particular repair/damage done. That's the best estimate if any. I'm in physical therapy and I'm not worried about him being ready for the start of the '13 season. True, he may not have 4.3 speed in 6-8 months, but he can be an effective quarterback throwing the ball in 6-8 months. Hopefully closer to 6 so he's ready for the beginning of training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs56 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Any players that tore the same ACL twice? That's a good question. I know Gore tore the ACL in both knees in college and came back to do what he did in the NFL. but that's the left and the right as opposed to the right and the right ---------- Post added January-9th-2013 at 01:22 PM ---------- aside from AP, what other skill position players have come back from a surgery like this and been as good or better than before? i'm not being pessimistic. just an honest question. Frank Gore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverboatGambler Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Agreed. Basically, the doc saw what the damage was and did the repair and estimated based on the particular repair/damage done. That's the best estimate if any.I'm in physical therapy and I'm not worried about him being ready for the start of the '13 season. True, he may not have 4.3 speed in 6-8 months, but he can be an effective quarterback throwing the ball in 6-8 months. Hopefully closer to 6 so he's ready for the beginning of training camp. Agree wholeheartedly. As long as he can plant, make accurate throws and evade pressure in the pocket to buy some time, I don't care if he cant take it to the house on foot. The most important thing is can he plant, make throws and take standard hits that every QB takes with the occasional awkward hit that applies torques to his knee and not suffer for it? If yes then I am 100 percent happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhmet187 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Missing in this discussion is that even WHEN athletes lose a step because of an injury like this, its usually because the difference between a 4.3 or 4.4 40 and a 4.5-4.6 40 at speed positions become readily apparent when theres always a supply of younger and faster guys. At the QB position, a 4.3 40 dropping to even a 4.6 40 equates to having a QB similar to Russel Wilson (4.55 40 time). While no one wants to see RGIII lose any of his blazing speed, its not like he still wouldn't be one of the fastest guys at his position even IF he loses a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Skins Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 anybody else think he should just get robot legs? it's a risky procedure, but i think it's worth it. Nice "Grandma's Boy" reference ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Terry Allen Yep, the thing that amazed me is that Allen tore his in both knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btubes18 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 No, it was Mark Adickes the first time, who is actually a former guard for the Redskins. Not surprising, really. College athletes from smaller schools don't always have access to the top medical professionals in the world. That's pretty crazy it was a former Redskins who originally did his first surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakerskinz Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 That's a good question. I know Gore tore the ACL in both knees in college and came back to do what he did in the NFL. but that's the left and the right as opposed to the right and the right---------- Post added January-9th-2013 at 01:22 PM ---------- Frank Gore Didnt Thomas Davis have 3 ACL surgeries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 ^ This. Robert will not accept not starting for this team in 2013. He will rehab his ass off and will be ready to go. Beef up the o line a little bit and let's capture the East. If he's healthy, great. But Robert not accepting being out of the game is why this thread exists, so he's not the ultimate decision-maker for when he returns. I really hope he takes this seriously and doesn't rush back. I have NO doubts that he'll work his ass of, but he can't stop time. So, if he needs to miss some games, he has to realize he isn't letting anybody down in doing so. ---------- Post added January-9th-2013 at 01:47 PM ---------- At the QB position, a 4.3 40 dropping to even a 4.6 40 equates to having a QB similar to Russel Wilson (4.55 40 time). While no one wants to see RGIII lose any of his blazing speed, its not like he still wouldn't be one of the fastest guys at his position even IF he loses a step. I think that's a good point. He should still be able to perform all of his QBing duties fine. If his 76-yard runs become 30-yard runs, we'll live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In 93 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Did you not read the article? 6-8 months. If this is true, KC won't be starting. If this is accurate and he's 100%, he will play. However, I have my doubts considering the way they disclosed the previous injury. If he can't run smoothly and explosively, then he needs to sit. ---------- Post added January-9th-2013 at 09:36 AM ---------- I agree they need to protect him better in the sense that they shouldn't let him play hurt. However, RG3 needs to protect himself better by playing smarter. Both times he got hurt this season were on scrambles where he didn't get down soon enough (the baltimore hit is debatable but he should have headed for the sidelines IMO) I honestly don't see him coming back in 6 months, I'd actually be a tad bit angry if he came back before earlier than schedule. After the way he came back in the eagles game any early recover just going to look like hes being rushed back. Interested to see what we have in Cousins, since I assume hes going to be the #1 QB for most of the offseason, I think he can hold down the team fine while griffin recovers properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 aside from AP, what other skill position players have come back from a surgery like this and been as good or better than before? i'm not being pessimistic. just an honest question. Not many apparently. I was just listening to the radio and a doctor stated that two-thirds of NFL players don't come back from this kind of surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhmet187 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Not many apparently.I was just listening to the radio and a doctor stated that two-thirds of NFL players don't come back from this kind of surgery. Was it 106.7 the fan? Seriously though, that number seems off considering it flies in the face from every other source that mentions the injuries. Plus, a lot of these details don't take other things into consideration, like if they were even a good player to begin with. I read an article mentioning Dominique Foxworth as an example of a guy who was out of the league because of a surgery like that, as opposed to him being out of the league because he was an overrated bum who had a flash in the pan season in Denver. But thats another point. Everything I've read about these injuries are that the chances of a return to full speed is around 65%ish, so that claim sounds highly dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I hate to say it, but in my mind I've already moved on. I think it's far more likely that the RG3 we know and love is gone, than he returns and plays 16 games next year...or any year for that matter. This one has the "Greg Oden" stink all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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