DCchillin89 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 SI Special Report: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2 SI report about UCLA Bruins Coach Ben Howland losing control of his prima dona basketball team. Pretty crazy, but at this point nothing like this surprises me anymore. Here is the cliff notes Version: http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncb/story/_/id/7629031/ucla-bruins-coach-ben-howland-lost-control-highly-recruited-players-according-report Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 How big is Reeves Nelson? Someone should have just hauled off and kicked his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 What kind of college basketball coach is like "I just let the players police themselves...." First of all, that's guaranteed to end up exactly how this ended up. Second, a LARGE component of your job is to actually HELP these kids turn into good citizens off the court, and you just abdicate? Wow. John Wooden must be doing backflips in his grave (Yes, i realize he isnt TECHNICALLY dead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow. John Wooden must be doing backflips in his grave (Yes, i realize he isnt TECHNICALLY dead). He isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He isn't? Ok, he IS technically dead. 2010, age 99. My mistake. RIP John Wooden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Good article and good reporting from a non-ESPN entity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 The part where Reeves punts a basketball and tells a manager to "fetch" it is especially maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'm sure there's plenty of legitimacy to a lot of this but I also know how little I trust the media and I know how butthurt some of the anonymous sources sound. I take it with a grain of salt but interesting none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The part where ReevesNelson punts a basketball and tells a manager to "fetch" it is especially maddening. I agree. Howland should have come down on him hard for treating staff like that. The kid sounds like an arrogant douchebag, and Howland made no effort to turn him around. In fact, given this quote from the article, it sounds like Howland often acted the same way: "Each of the players who spoke to SI said they found Howland socially awkward and disapproved of the verbal abuse they say he directed at his staff, the student managers and the weakest players." and "Nelson frequently talked back to the assistant coaches. When they told him to stop, he would remark, 'That's how Coach Howland talks to you.' Many players say Howland degraded his assistants, but only Nelson used that as license to treat the assistants with disrespect." Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/index.html#ixzz1np0yaNBy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 How big is Reeves Nelson? Someone should have just hauled off and kicked his ass.6' 8", 235 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 6' 8", 235 lbs yeah, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sounds like a story about punk basketball players who don't want to grow up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 6' 8", 235 lbs yeah, no thanks. So you mean to tell me if you are on the team and you are 6-6 and at least 200, you wouldn't confront the guy and at least defend yourself? I'm not 6-8 and 235, but you can't tell me there isn't one guy on that team that wasn't willing to get in his grill? I've got an Irish attitude and I had my "Ralphie" moment with a bully back when I was a kid and I tell you what, if I were on that team (especially if I were a senior) that ***hole wouldn't be pulling that **** with me. The whole team is a bunch of p***ies if you ask me. So does his tatoos scare you two or what? Sounds like he just needs his clock cleaned one time. Let him pull that bull**** in the NBA and see if he doesn't come out of the lockeroom with some teeth missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Well, yeah, except I'm like 5-10 and 120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Well, yeah, except I'm like 5-10 and 120 I'm 5-9, 180 and 44 years old so right now I wouldn't confront him, but it seem weird that a 7 foot 250lb teamate wouldn't jack his ass up to a locker. Bullies should always remember this. No matter how "big and bad" you think you are, there is always, ALWAYS somebody "bigger and badder" than you that will kick your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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