Kosher Ham Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I don't even believe Diana Ross is in as a solo artist. How can that be? I think she made it in because she was the only one to really have a significant career after the Supremes. I recall one...name escapes me at the moment was very pretty, but Ross was doing the damn thing making her name known. Mary maybe ? I'll have to look it up. EDIT: Yep, Mary Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Chic ??? Really ? ehh... Chaka Khan...hell no. Unless it for length of career...I don't think she even had one platinum song. I know that album was platinum back in the 80's but ... so. I think it was Prince that wrote the big hit. Geez, these HOF things are getting a little too much these days, If you are going to go by album sales, you need to pull out Lou Reed and The Faces and The Ramones and Patti Smith and a whole bunch of people. And you need to put Poison in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 If you are going to go by album sales, you need to pull out Lou Reed and The Faces and The Ramones and Patti Smith and a whole bunch of people. And you need to put Poison in today. please not by album sales. That's Def leopards only ticket it. The RRHoF is really just diluted. Should be limited to game changers. But no. It's now essentially any group that was popular. I swear, someday Credd will be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 please not by album sales. That's Def leopards only ticket it. The RRHoF is really just diluted. Should be limited to game changers. But no. It's now essentially any group that was popular. I swear, someday Credd will be in there. Def Leppard still sells out arenas to this day. 3 critically acclaimed albums don't get you in? Tell me how should The Cars get in and not Def Leppard? please not by album sales. That's Def leopards only ticket it. The RRHoF is really just diluted. Should be limited to game changers. But no. It's now essentially any group that was popular. I swear, someday Credd will be in there. Just wondering. Do you think Ringo Starr should have been indicted last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Def Leppard still sells out arenas to this day. 3 critically acclaimed albums don't get you in? Tell me how should The Cars get in and not Def Leppard? just because they're popular, doesn't mean they're worthy. what have they done that sets them apart? No. Ringo by himself isn't worthy. Still so popular? I can get 5 tickets to their concert 1 week away, basically right next to the stage. Sold directly from the arena Or 5 to their concert in 2 days. Right next to the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 He got indicted ? Damn, rock stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Seriously, half the people in should not be. Not to mention calling it R&R HOF. I do agree that the Cars are not worthy. Just call it the Music hall of fame. Is Scott Joplin in it ? Yet we have these random folks... Maple leaf rag is a staple of music. Most of the stuff is not even close to comparison as far as depth/talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 just because they're popular, doesn't mean they're worthy. what have they done that sets them apart? No. Ringo by himself isn't worthy. Still so popular? I can get 5 tickets to their concert 1 week away, basically right next to the stage. Sold directly from the arena Come on, You can probably get seats to just about any concert you want to go to. Along with Van Halen, they were the biggest rock band in the 80's. You're telling me they weren't influential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Come on, You can probably get seats to just about any concert you want to go to. Along with Van Halen, they were the biggest rock band in the 80's. You're telling me they weren't influential? Yes. I can get tickets via the secondary market. I was clicking ticket links directly from DL's own website. Look, I'm not arguing they weren't a very popular band at one point with a lot of fans and record sales. But so were hundreds of other groups I wouldn't elect to the RnRHoF. Like Backstreet boys. Def Leppard didn't do anything out of the ordinary that sets them apart from other hard rock groups in that era. They are like Clinton Portis. Very good at what they were, and what they did, but not heads and shoulders better than their contemporaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I assume that Cheap Trick's performance would just be 10 minutes of Rick Neilsen throwing customized Hall of Fame guitar picks into the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 But they still pack arenas over 20 years past their peek. Plus, no one sells out "every" show. And you guys are pumping up The Cars, what exactly made them so influential? They went as commercial as Def Leppard did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 But they still pack arenas over 20 years past their peek. Plus, no one sells out "every" show. And you guys are pumping up The Cars, what exactly made them so influential? They went as commercial as Def Leppard did. Pearl Jam sells out every show. :-P I don't think the Cars should really be in either. but that's a genre of music i never really got into. Their songs are fine and all. Ric Ocasik belongs in. But moreso as a producer than a musician. This is the beauty of RnRHof. We all have our opinion of who sucks and who doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Do you think Ringo Starr should have been indicted last year? What did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'm kind of surprised there is any interest in this. The idea of a Hall of Fame for artists is, in and of itself, crass and objectionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 What did he do? Geez. I'm sorry. Inducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I just think The Cars' first album is unfreakinbelievably good. Plus they were weirdly good at everything randomly associated with rock music - album covers, videos, marrying models when you look like a serial killer, dying too young, etc. I'm kind of surprised there is any interest in this. The idea of a Hall of Fame for artists is, in and of itself, crass and objectionable. In fairness, we're talking about pop music here. This may be my favorite ongoing thread here. People really care about this stuff, and I find it amusing. I also like making fun of the weirdo prog rock people who show up here. Though they all appear to be underground lately. My guess is that the collapse of Radio Shack really shook their world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 I just think The Cars' first album is unfreakinbelievably good. Plus they were weirdly good at everything randomly associated with rock music - album covers, videos, marrying models when you look like a serial killer, dying too young, etc. In fairness, we're talking about pop music here. This may be my favorite ongoing thread here. People really care about this stuff, and I find it amusing. I also like making fun of the weirdo prog rock people who show up here. Though they all appear to be underground lately. My guess is that the collapse of Radio Shack really shook their world. We're going by album covers now? Plus, Def Leppard had a member that died young also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Is Def Leppard really a band or just a metal version of the Spice Girls but instead of hot chicks, the producers went chose skinny unemployed alcoholics? I kid because I love, of course. Hair metal is really really really really under-represented considering how huge it was. Like everything else, I just blame Jann Wenner. He dug New Wave so he's going to keep pushing until The Motels and The Waitresses get in. Meanwhile, no one who had a video on MTV in 1988 has a chance. We're going by album covers now? Plus, Def Leppard had a member that died young also. I'm old school. Album covers are at least 30 percent of the reason why I like certain bands. Def Leppard probably should have addressed their font-related issues when they had the chance. They didn't. I have no sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This man is seriously talking album covers... What in the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Come on, You can probably get seats to just about any concert you want to go to. Along with Van Halen, they were the biggest rock band in the 80's. You're telling me they weren't influential? No. They were popular. They sold a lot of albums and tickets. But they weren't "influential" or innovative. They were entirely derivative of the arena rock that dominated music at the time they appeared, and they were just another one of the innumerable hair metal/pop metal acts like Poison and Motley Crue that arena rock was gradually morphing into. Just a bit more successful than most, but not more influential. Led Zeppelin was influential. Jimi Hendrix was influential. Black Sabbath was influential. Van Halen and Aerosmith and Metallica and Deep Purple were influential. Def Leppard was popular, not influential. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This man is seriously talking album covers... What in the... Are we denying the importance of album covers? Granted, today, they are meaningless. But once upon a time, they were probably the second most important thing a band could create next to songs. Though in the case of Boston that may actually be debatable. No. They were popular. They sold a lot of albums and tickets. But they weren't "influential" or innovative. They were entirely derivative of the arena rock that dominated music at the time they appeared, and they were just another one of the innumerable hair metal/pop metal acts like Poison and Motley Crue that arena rock was gradually morphing into. Just a bit more successful than most, but not more influential. Led Zeppelin was influential. Jimi Hendrix was influential. Black Sabbath was influential. Van Halen and Aerosmith and Metallica and Deep Purple were influential. Def Leppard was popular, not influential. IMO. They did have a one-armed drummer. I would vote them in on that basis. But I think I view rock music differently than a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 They did have a one-armed drummer. I would vote them in on that basis. But I think I view rock music differently than a lot of people. What has 8 arms and suckers? An octopus. Then what has 9 arms and sucks? Def Leppard. That joke was a big laugh-getter back in 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Here is a totally stupid and one hundred percent legit argument. I think I've listened to two Iron Maiden songs in my life. I just did not hang out with the type of people who would have gotten me to listen to Iron Maiden. I also don't know if Iron Maiden is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I doubt that they are. But they one hundred percent should be in it based on t-shirts alone. (I probably made the exact opposite argument when it came to Kiss, but the reason for that is simple: **** Gene Simmons). What has 8 arms and suckers? An octopus. Then what has 9 arms and sucks? Def Leppard. That joke was a big laugh-getter back in 1991. I was 13 when Pour Some Sugar on Me came out. That meant that I was 100 percent the target audience for a band with a one-armed drummer. I would watch that video and think, "He's amazing man." Mutt Lange did all the programming and he basically just hit a snare on the two and four, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 There aren't many metal bands in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 There aren't many metal bands in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. A few of the early ones are in, because, you know, influence. But I agree that there should be more. Certainly Deep Purple and Judas Priest are long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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