Boss_Hogg Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/28686/tryon-says-caldwell-was-overruled Tryon Claims Caldwell wanted to start him at CB, however the Colt's FO overruled the coaches' wishes: Jim Irsay responds: If, in fact, coach Jim Caldwell wanted to play Tryon more and felt pressure from above preventing him to do so, Tryon's stance won't matter. While he's calling for support of the coach, he's also revealing Caldwell can be handcuffed and overruled. And a handcuffed coach isn't likely to gain or retain the support of his players or the team's fans when things are going badly. Caldwell doesn't care about public perception. He should care about how he's regarded in the locker room. Is this a bitter player lashing out? Is it an isolated incident? All we can do is keep an eye out for further evidence. I do think if there was nothing to it, Irsay wouldn't have touched it. Read More: http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/28686/tryon-says-caldwell-was-overruledTyron signed with the Giants earlier today: http://online.wsj.com/article/APa42b1bd722404789b3e6ef804a8afd51.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanindallas88 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well he'll probably be a starter in NY...but with their injuries, I could probably start there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm sorry. But the fact that the Colt's owner is constantly tweeting things like a 14-year old girl, l33t-slang and all, and actually responded to Tryon's accusations through twitter, makes me believe Tryon. I think that Indy FO is a mess right now. I believe that the DC, or Caldwell, wanted to start Tryon (he's a pretty good fit in that defense), and wasn't allowed to, for whatever reason. I also believe that Caldwell wanted to start Painter (as most of the team did, as well), but had Collins and his large salary forced on him. Caldwell is a puppet HC. The Colt's haven't needed a HC with Peyton there, and now that Peyton is injured, ****'s falling apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcordNCSkinsFan Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Anyone who thinks Caldwell has any real say with the Colts is delusional. The Indy chain of command goes like this Irsay-Polian-Manning-Groundskeeper-Janitor-Cook-Caldwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 I agree, the Colts owner needs to step away from the Twitter. We would be up in arms if Snyder was tweeting like a middle school kid about former players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 LOL Irsay! R U 14 yrs old? Dwe U have sleepovers w/Caldwell? ROTFLMFAO! That's GR8. Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptr77 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 A coach who is not allowed to determine who plays and who starts? That's beyond ridiculous. I know there are GMs that draft and sign guys without any input from coaches (which is idiotic) but to handcuff the coach from playing who he feels should play is beyond stupid. Basically Caldwell is the D and O coordinators boss, maybe not even that. The Colts, for all the accolades the get about great drafting in all actuality suck at drafting and free agency. Without Manning they are nothing and all they do is draft offense and smaller defensive players to fit a scheme that gets dominated often (notice the bears run a cover 2 but actually have some size on their D). They never have depth and their defense is consistently atrocious. They didn't even sign a viable backup even when they knew Manning was coming off a very serious surgery months and months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Very happy that Justin Tryon is now a Giant. The Giants' backup CB's are trash. The second I heard he got cut by Indy, I was hoping the Giants would make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Anyone who thinks Caldwell has any real say with the Colts is delusional. The Indy chain of command goes like this Irsay-Polian-Manning-Groundskeeper-Janitor-Cook-Caldwell lol at caldwell being in charge of anything. manning ran that entire offense, their defense was run by god knows who, caldwell is just a guy with a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Anyone who thinks Caldwell has any real say with the Colts is delusional. The Indy chain of command goes like this Irsay-Polian-Manning-Groundskeeper-Janitor-Cook-Caldwell caldwell is like some figurehead. i mean he obviously has no control of the offense, since even when peyton is hurt he still is in charge of it. in fact they had to bring back their coordinators after they were forced to retire for pension reasons as consultants. the bigger problem is Irsay. he has brought so much attention to himself this year and none of it for good reasons. as the owner of the team you shouldn't respond to some CB that you just cut because it makes him look like he's telling the truth whether he is or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Smith Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Amazing to think that the Redskins now have a more professional front office than Indy, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 An owner responding to a 2nd-string CB via twitter?!? The wheels are gonna come off that bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Amazing to think that the Redskins now have a more professional front office than Indy, lol. I never really thought that Indy had a good FO to begin with. They lucked into Manning, and Peyton would make any group of receivers look good. His ability to make everyone around him look like world beaters is unmatched. Granted, Wayne and Clark ARE good, but I wouldn't exactly call the rest of their offense outstanding. Draft speed rushers, get out to an early lead, drop 7 into coverage. Not exactly that hard a concept to master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 When Caldwell called that time out in the playoffs last season, that was the end of him having any control whatsoever lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I don't even think Caldwell's headset is on during the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Jim Caldwell has the easiest job in the NFL. He gets to stand on the sidelines with an expressionless face. He doesn't even have to fill Gatorade cups. I wonder if the Colts front office even requires him to attend practices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I don't even think Caldwell's headset is on during the game :ols: me and my friend were laughing so hard at this other day ... dude is a MUTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Irsay is a complete fool but Bill Polian is damn near a certified genius. Now when / where is our undisclosed draft pick for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Now when / where is our undisclosed draft pick for this guy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_Draft 7 224 Washington Redskins Markus White DE Florida State ACC from Indianapolis [R7 - 10] ^ #224: Indianapolis → Washington (PD). Indianapolis traded this selection to Washington for cornerback Justin Tryon.UNIQ426686563d0bb9c7-nowiki-00000298-QINUsource 58UNIQ426686563d0bb9c7-nowiki-00000299-QINU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks Ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks Ghost. No prob. We actually have decent CB depth his year, so I'm hoping Marcus White can be at least a contributor in a couple of years. That way we got something for a wasted 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Irsay is a complete fool but Bill Polian is damn near a certified genius. Now when / where is our undisclosed draft pick for this guy. Well, he's not a team building genius. This dude has had over a decade to build a juggernaut around Payton, and has been unable to. Without Payton, nothing he's build does anything. He would have been fired long, long ago. Indy's FO is vastly overrated. Their drafting and FA signings have been average or below-average for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptr77 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well, he's not a team building genius. This dude has had over a decade to build a juggernaut around Payton, and has been unable to.Without Payton, nothing he's build does anything. He would have been fired long, long ago. Indy's FO is vastly overrated. Their drafting and FA signings have been average or below-average for years. Polian gets talked up as some genius for one reason and one reason alone: He drafted Peyton Manning with the first pick of the draft eons ago... His team is nothing without that one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger.Staubach Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm sorry. But the fact that the Colt's owner is constantly tweeting things like a 14-year old girl, l33t-slang and all, and actually responded to Tryon's accusations through twitter, makes me believe Tryon. I'm inclined to agree with your view. Strange situation out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Polian gets talked up as some genius for one reason and one reason alone:He drafted Peyton Manning with the first pick of the draft eons ago... His team is nothing without that one player. Yeah i totally agree. I know they draft late first round all the time, but what have their drafts produced? Manning going down is a major loss, but a winless football team? When Brady went down Cassel still came in and got them 10 wins (Missed the playoffs though i think). Peyton going down shouldnt mean the Colts go 2-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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