Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/09/doctor-Romo sits to pee-may-be-out-while.html Last night, the Cowboys released a statement claiming quarterback Tony Romo sits to pee suffered a pneumothorax, or punctured lung, in addition to a fractured rib in Sunday's win over the 49ers. The full statement can be read here.This afternoon, I asked Dr. Luis Rios, this site's medical consultant, for an assessment of Romo sits to pee's injury. Dr. Rios, who spent five years as a Trauma Chief of Surgery, and who has handled many pneumothorax cases, said he does not believe that Romo sits to pee will play against the Redskins on Monday night and may miss several games, depending on the severity of the puncture. "There are two types of punctured lung injuries. There's a pneumothorax. What happens is that the patient gets a hole in the thoracic cavity. Air enters and compresses the lung, so it can no longer fully expand. There's also a tension pneumothorax, where the pressure builds up and pushes on the heart... If you have a patient with an injured chest you take an x-ray to look for rib injuries. Fractures can sometimes be hard to find on x-rays but you should be able to see a pneumothorax. If you find one, you treat it by inserting a tube to withdraw the incoming air so the patient's lung can expand. If the puncture is severe, a needle is inserted to relieve the compressed air and then a tube is inserted to keep air from building up again. Based on the information in the team's statement, I don't believe that Romo sits to pee had the pneumothorax at halftime, because no doctor would let him go back out on the field knowing his lung was punctured. That's gross and negligent malpractice. He would have been sent to a hospital instead." I asked Dr. Rios for a time-table and he said a pneumothorax would usually take between three to six weeks to heal, adding that if he was treating a high-school player with a similar injury, the player would be out six weeks. "The injury was caused by his fractured rib. It's still fractured and that rib has to heal. Otherwise, you're risking another puncture, possibly a bigger one. He's going to get regular x-rays and scans during the week, to see if the pneumothorax is getting better or if it's getting worse, which it can do. I don't think his treatment will include Monday Night Football." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdomination09 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 listen im a DIE hard redskins fan and Im glad to face another team that has their backup QB in on that note, regardless of his level of play I PRAY Romo sits to pee sits out. That injury sounds GROSS and I will be absolutely LIVID with the cowboys coaching staff if they let him go out there. Im sure he'll want to but Romo sits to pee is not one of those guys thats a sh** human being. I DONT want to see anything worse happen to him. Im concerned for him if he does. Im a human being before Im a Redskins fan. PLEASE sit Romo sits to pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penasquito Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Someone said it was courageous for Romo sits to pee to put himself back in the game the way it was courageous for me to drive home after 7 beers and missing a contact lens. I think we'll see Kitna on Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I aren't sure this is good news from our point of view. The Cowboys O-line is almost as horrible as ours, and we all know what Romo sits to pee's prone to do when pressured. Now Kitna at 38 may not fare much better, but he's not quite the gunslinger Romo sits to pee is and probably won't take as many chances. Even though their running options are limited, I can see them leaning heavily on the run with Kitna back there; with a big dose of play action to mix it up and help him out. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 We'll know soon enough if the incident was staged or not depending on if he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 We'll know soon enough if the incident was staged or not depending on if he plays. From what this guy is saying, Romo sits to pee probably didn't puncture his lung until after he went back in...and if his rib isn't healed sufficiently, it could puncture his lung yet again, possibly even worse than before. If I were making the decision, I would hold Romo sits to pee out of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Thanks for posting this Cali. I'm in medschool right now and I laughed like **** when they said Romo sits to pee had a punctured lung and came back to play. Complete bull****. That's the Cowboys though, always trying to turn any issue into BIG drama on Big D's side. I have a hard time believing that a guy that was out 5 games for a broken pinky comes into play after having a punctured lung at half-time (and after having a tube shoved through his thoracic cavity, aka "rib cage", into his lung. You don't do **** with a punctured lung. Maybe the doctor said if he plays he COULD puncture a lung, that would be true, if the rib were to fracture more or break completely. Anyway, we'll see. ---------- Post added September-20th-2011 at 06:56 PM ---------- I aren't sure this is good news from our point of view.The Cowboys O-line is almost as horrible as ours, and we all know what Romo sits to pee's prone to do when pressured. Now Kitna at 38 may not fare much better, but he's not quite the gunslinger Romo sits to pee is and probably won't take as many chances. Even though their running options are limited, I can see them leaning heavily on the run with Kitna back there; with a big dose of play action to mix it up and help him out. Hail. I think it's just fine if Kitna plays. Like you said, the OL is awful, our D is playing great and getting tons of pressure, and Kitna is a statue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 as with Manning there is nothing more important than your health. Romo sits to pee had an inspirational fourth quarter for Dallas against the 49ers but he is going to have to sit for the good of his future with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I aren't sure this is good news from our point of view.The Cowboys O-line is almost as horrible as ours, and we all know what Romo sits to pee's prone to do when pressured. Now Kitna at 38 may not fare much better, but he's not quite the gunslinger Romo sits to pee is and probably won't take as many chances. Even though their running options are limited, I can see them leaning heavily on the run with Kitna back there; with a big dose of play action to mix it up and help him out. Hail. Sorry dude but the Cowboys line is a lot worse than ours. I swear I wonder what games you watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Sorry dude but the Cowboys line is a lot worse than ours. I swear I wonder what games you watch. Without wishing to derail this thread, do you think we have a competent offensive line? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Without wishing to derail this thread, do you think we have a competent offensive line?Hail. Our passing yards and rushing stats would imply that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAP_Pete Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Just let Romo sits to pee play and have Orakpo and Kerrigan check if his rib is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Our passing yards and rushing stats would imply that Watching the games do you believe their as good as those stats? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Without wishing to derail this thread, do you think we have a competent offensive line?Hail. That's exactly how I would describe. Unlike you I don't go by reputation. I go by performance on the field. The line struggled mightily at the beginning of last year but if you were paying attention it started to get better as the year went along. Now it is competant and can be good at times. We just ran the ball for nearly 6 yards a clip against Arizona. But go ahead and stick to your 3 or 4 win prediction. It's a damn shame that you can't appreciate what you are seeing happen in front of you. Football isn't about individual pieces. It's about the sum of the parts and our parts are starting to add up and that includes the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The doctor in the article doesn't have access to any of Romo sits to pee's injury information. But if what he says is true, the Cowboys better sit Romo sits to pee for awhile. His health is far more important than a game. We'll simply play em again later in the year at full srength. I'm kinda bummed a bit... I wanted a "no excuses" game and this is a very easy excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Watching the games do you believe their as good as those stats?Hail. They're exactly as good as that. Or are you implying that Rex Grossman and Tim Hightower are making the line look good? That flies in the face of your "We have the worst QB situation in the League" theory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 That's exactly how I would describe. Unlike you I don't go by reputation. I go by performance on the field. The line struggled mightily at the beginning of last year but if you were paying attention it started to get better as the year went along. Now it is competant and can be good at times. We just ran the ball for nearly 6 yards a clip against Arizona. But go ahead and stick to your 3 or 4 win prediction. It's a damn shame that you can't appreciate what you are seeing happen in front of you. Football isn't about individual pieces. It's about the sum of the parts and our parts are starting to add up and that includes the offensive line. I wasn't aware I put ANY stock in reputation, but thank you for enlightening me on my thoughts. Grossman had tremendous, in his face pressure deep into the third qtr. of game one against the Giants; through which the whole front 5 got manhandled easily by a depleted Giants D. Which followed on from some real poor pass pro. in the exhibition games when they really came under attack. It's to Grossman's credit he put up the numbers he did and moved the team as well as he did. Now they were a darn sight better against Arizona after a real shaky start, no question. And you can only play what's in front of you. But with the greatest of respect to Docket and co., I wouldn't have them down as a top echelon front in this league. The greater test comes again on Monday, when I fully expect Ware to run havoc. This line is improved on last year, but that's not saying much. It's true it's a trade off you get with the ZBS of a great run blocking, but lighter, more athletic linemen struggling in pass pro. And our pass pro. is pretty darn shocking against good attacks. That's my assesment, going off what I've seen with my own eyes. Prehaps next time you'll answer a question straight without presuming you know what a posters thinking or where their coming from. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 If he plays, well hey, time for a Redskin to end another Cowboys career. This time it will be Orakpo ending Romo sits to pee's, not Lavar ending Aikman's. #Pleasantries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Watching the games do you believe their as good as those stats?Hail. What else are you supposed to judge it on? Everyone o-line has a break at some point or another, I mean they're 300 plus pound guys playing every single offensive snap. But the simple fact is, regardless of your opinion, you do not run for 174 yards in a game and pass for 300 plus more without at least a competent o line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Regardless of my fears, I sincerely hope your right and they are going forward rockfan. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Regardless of my fears, I sincerely hope your right and they are going forward rockfan.Hail. Agreed. There's nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic but for your sake I hope they prove you wrong Anyways......back to the thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I knew that there was no way he went back out with a punctured lung, that is nearly humanly impossible to do. As much as I hate the Cowboys I respect him for playing hurt, but he should not play if he has a punctured lung, no way, no how. As for posters fearing Kitna, I don't think it matters. The Redskins DL is going to dominate that offensive line and when that happens the Redskins win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Someone said it was courageous for Romo sits to pee to put himself back in the game the way it was courageous for me to drive home after 7 beers and missing a contact lens. I think we'll see Kitna on Monday night. Exactly. Football is a game. Health and well being are about life. I wouldn't want my qb playing in that condition. It's not worth it. If you ask me, those doctors were borderline unethical in letting him go back out after half-time. Come on fellas, this league doesn't let a player suffering a partial concussion play the next week. This 'hero' stuff is ridiculous. It was stupid...on the part of a number of people. ---------- Post added September-20th-2011 at 10:29 PM ---------- Without wishing to derail this thread, do you think we have a competent offensive line?Hail. Um, yes. Yes, we do. Try being a fan of the Skins for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I have a feeling that either: A) The injury is not as severe as originally reported, but the "story" is beneficial to Romo sits to pee so Dallas will let the media fly with it to take the heat off Romo sits to pee for as long as it will last. Dallas already knows Romo sits to pee aint playing Monday, but it is beneficial for them to not let that info as long as possible so that the 'Skins are game-planning for Romo sits to pee, and Dallas can try and put some different wrinkles into the offense during this week. Also, it seems from what most doctors and medical specialists are saying, the fractured rib injury is a "can I manage the pain" injury, but the punctured lung injury is about needing to rest to get better and it isn't the type of injury you can just shoot yourself up with pain killers and head out to the field with. It poses a real danger to be hit with that kind of injury. Think about how Shanahan treats injury info. He tries his best to let out as little info as possible until required. It is a strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Latest from the DallasMorningnews.com http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/09/pulmonologist-on-cowboys-qb-to.html The Cowboys said Monday in a statement that additional tests, including a CT scan, revealed there was evidence Romo sits to pee suffered a pneumothorax, which is a buildup of air in the space between the chest wall and the lung. Dr. Mark Millard, the director of the Baylor Foster Lung Care Center at Baylor Medical Center in Dallas, said a pneumothorax can heal rapidly, even within days. But he cautioned it's not advisable for Romo sits to pee to play if he still has the condition. "It really boils down to what Romo sits to pee says about his pain level and how active and mobile he is going to be," said Millard, a pulmonologist. "Obviously if he has a medically-severe condition like a pneumothorax, he's not going to go on the field. But if he does not have a pneumothorax and if he is able to handle the pain, he will be out there next week." Yet Millard added that Romo sits to pee should expect to feel the effects of his injuries for the foreseeable future, explaining that the soreness created by the rib fracture can linger for approximately 50 days. "It's like six weeks before it goes away," Millard said. "He's going to have a lot of pain for a while. It should get better. And the pneumothorax should resolve itself quickly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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